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Notorious 8chan Board Has History Wiped After Federal Judge's Doxing 240

AmiMoJo writes On Monday, imageboard site 8chan's "baphomet" subboard, an Internet destination known for hosting aggressive "doxing" posts, received a major history wipe the day after one of its users posted the personal information of a federal judge in the Silk Road case. A follow-up post by baphomet's "Board Owner" account stated that "HW," a reference to site founder Frederick "hotwheels" Brennan, deleted "the SSN posts" and told the baphomet board founder, previously identified via an associated Twitter handle as Benjamin Biddix, to "lay low." The same day baphomet's "Board Owner" announced a "doxing for hire" service due to "running low on funds."
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Notorious 8chan Board Has History Wiped After Federal Judge's Doxing

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  • Don't worry (Score:5, Funny)

    by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Saturday February 14, 2015 @01:39AM (#49053271) Homepage

    I'm sure the guy who posted was behind 7 proxies.

    • And was posting from Serbia.
      • by Anonymous Coward

        8chan supposed to be for free speech, but then they have the proviso

        "Do not post, request, or link to any content illegal in the United States of America. Do not create boards with the sole purpose of posting or spreading such content"

        8chan users always castigate 4chan as halfchan, but now itself is becoming 1/4chan

  • by Anonymous Coward

    What's the story here?

    A user of a board posted info on someone, gets the attention of law enforcement and is probably going to see jailtime in the future.

    The administrator deletes and removes said offending post.

    What am I missing here or is this newsworthy?

  • translation (Score:3, Informative)

    by quenda ( 644621 ) on Saturday February 14, 2015 @01:57AM (#49053329)

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Doxing (from dox, abbreviation of documents),[1] or doxxing,[2][3] is the Internet-based practice of researching and broadcasting personally identifiable information about an individual.[3][4][5][6] The methods employed to acquire this information include searching publicly available databases and social media websites (like Facebook), hacking, and social engineering. It is closely related to cyber-vigilantism, hacktivism and cyber-bullying.

    Doxing may be carried out to aid law enforcement, business analysis, extortion, coercion, harassment, public shaming and other forms of vigilante justice.[7][8]

    • by Anonymous Coward

      I always assumed 4chan means "fortune." Is that right?
      So then does 8chan mean "Asian?"

      I've never been to either site. Can someone please explain the logic behind #chan?

      • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 14, 2015 @04:07AM (#49053679)
        The Anon who said "They're English-language clones of 2chan, which is in Japanese." explained 4chan's origin.

        8chan was basically what happened when moot (who was 4chan's admin until his retirement a few weeks ago) banned #gamergate and fucked with /pol/. (Translation: Even he got sick of the gamergaters, and the fact that none of the political whackjobs could keep their shit in the /pol/itics containment board, so he fucked with 'em for the lulz. I thought it was funny as fuck.)

        tl;dr: 8ch exists because there are people for whom 4chan is too polite.

        • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

          by Anonymous Coward

          I think you mean: moot was cosying up to Gawker and his brand new SJW buddies to get some money. GamerGate was busy attacking Gawker. So moot did what he was told like a little bitch.

        • by poity ( 465672 )

          8chan was basically what happened when moot (who was 4chan's admin until his retirement a few weeks ago) banned #gamergate and fucked with /pol/

          No, only the /gg/ board, and later /gamergate/ board came to be as you have described. 8chan itself (or infinitechan, the 8 representing a lemniscate) started over a year ago, which was many months before gamergate, when Brennan, having seen the many other *chans sprout up over the years in the aftermath of repeated censorship on 4chan, decided to create a hybrid of Reddit and 4chan.

    • by gl4ss ( 559668 )

      it's just a new word for "doing private detective stuff".

      really, his doxing for hire service is identical to what most private detectives do... well apart from being in the bushes and shooting pictures of people having sex.

  • by hcs_$reboot ( 1536101 ) on Saturday February 14, 2015 @02:03AM (#49053349)
    Post anything about anyone. That's fine. Just don't post anything about a judge. Lesson learned?
    • by voss ( 52565 ) on Saturday February 14, 2015 @02:28AM (#49053413)

      Trying to intimidate a federal judge is both a criminal act and a VERY bad idea.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        The fact that a federal judge would have their personal information hidden is telling indeed.

        If they don't trust the law enforcement system, then who the fuck can?

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Posting *publicly available* information of a **public servant** is illegal?

        • by gnupun ( 752725 ) on Saturday February 14, 2015 @04:52AM (#49053805)

          You have to question why this information was posted in the first place. Was it so people on the internet could invite the judge to a party or be invited to the judge's social gatherings? No, it was expressly done by malicious people (eg: silk road users) to inform other malicious people about one of their prime enemies. This was done so they could discriminate, harass or harm the judge in the future for taking away their prized illegal goods/services web store.

          So, yes, it's illegal to post this kind of info. The private lives of public servants should not be invaded in the same way as private life of an ordinary citizen should not.

          • "This guy makes lots of enemies because he signed up to do so. Therefore he is above the law that we are all subject to" Sorry, that's not how public service works. Police are required to wear ID badges, judges don't use false aliases, and your comment is pungent with a lack of legal understanding and how it affects society at large. Were it a crime for people to hold *unelected officials* such as judges and police officers personally accountable for their actions because "they have a right to anonymity -
            • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 14, 2015 @09:29AM (#49054265)

              He signed up to do something he believes is good. Generally the majority of the society it is good too.

              He didn't ask for this case, it was assigned to him. His decision to be a Judge was likely made decades before this case, so I am having a very hard time understanding your rational of "he asked for it."

              People sign up in the military to defend their country. They realize that it involves a risk of killing others and perhaps being killed. The government changes over time, and you find a lot of people in the military with personal reservations about the willingness of the current administration to do what they would personally prefer not be done.

              In both cases, just skipping town is not an option. If it were ever permitted, then we would never have Judges presiding over any cases were someone might get pissed off, nor servicemen fighting in any places where they could find some point of disagreement as to why they are there.

              You stated that "They do not care about your rights." which is wholly untrue to a Judge. The only thing a Judge cares about is your rights; but, your rights do not extend so far as to see you never get punished. Watch a Judge in action some time (not on TV). The first hint of circumstantial evidence, and they wake up an put an end to it immediately. Yes, they only will focus on the case at hand, and no they won't pander to emotion because they're not mental health counselors.

              You seem to be mad about bankers destroying the economy. I fail to see how attacking Judges solves your problem.

              You seem to be mad about unelected people in power. I fail to see how attacking Judges (who are elected) solves your problem.

              You seem to be upset about the simplistic focus on "good" and "evil". I fail to see how attacking a person dedicated to making sure people follow a set of rules (as opposed to consulting a good vs evil chart), aka a Judge solves your problem.

              I can hear your pain and rage. I just think that you don't see Judges for what they are. They are far less than what you esteem them to be.

              • The first hint of circumstantial evidence, and [judges] wake up and put an end to it immediately.

                It seems like every time a geek goes on trial he makes the same mistake.

                Eyewitness testimony is direct evidence.

                Circumstantial evidence is used in criminal courts to establish guilt or innocence through reasoning.

                University of Michigan law professor Robert Precht [once] said, ''Circumstantial evidence can be, and often is much more powerful than direct evidence.''

                The common metaphor for the strongest possible evidence in any case ---the ''smoking gun'' --- is an example of proof based on circumstantial evidence. Similarly, fingerprint evidence, videotapes, sound recordings, photographs, and many other examples of physical evidence that support the drawing of an inference, i.e., circumstantial evidence, are considered very strong possible evidence.

                In practice, circumstantial evidence can have an advantage over direct evidence in that it can come from multiple sources that check and reinforce each.

                Circumstantial evidence [wikipedia.org]

          • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

            by spire3661 ( 1038968 )
            It doesn't matter WHY. If the information is publicly available, then its legal. The private lives of people who decide life and death MOST CERTAINLY should be available for review. IF you are going to wield that kind of power, you don't get to hide.
        • by voss ( 52565 )

          Intent does matter. Posting "publicly available information" for the purposes of intimidation or harassment or to aid identity theft is illegal,

    • by Boronx ( 228853 )

      Don't mess with Federal Judges.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) *

      I get the impression that it's more about the judge being likely to respond, where as many other people feel like they can't even approach the police with "someone posted my personal information on the internet!"

    • There's nothing to say that anyone contacted hotwheels. Hotwheels just may have panicked. I can't see a federal judge caring about being doxed. Most of that is public information, and if it was a problem he would have had it taken down a long time before. It's not like federal judges don't get 'doxed' by defendants every day. Over the years, I'm sure, he's developed a thick skin. If it's out there and possible to get, he knows it's out there, etc.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 14, 2015 @03:51AM (#49053641)

    Jesus Fucking Christ.

    It's obvious to everyone by now that the Slashdot editors have taken a passive aggressive stance towards Gamergate stories and submissions, using every opportunity to smear gamers and generally ignoring just about every even slightly neutral or nuanced aspect of the internet's biggest ever flamewar. Holy shit, News for Nerds, if ever there was news for nerds, it was Gamergate. Holy Fuck. The least the editors could have done was joked about it all.

    But this shit? This is just straight up Propaganda, with a capital P. This obvious fucking bait that even the gamers and SJWs have almost completely ignored, ending up unironically on the front page. Propaganda for the New Age Fascists who have been shitting on both gamers and the entire tech sector for the last three years and who are fucking notorious for getting their SJW cult members to pull this false flag shit to try and get sites shut down.

    I don't know what disgusts me more. Slashdot, the site that stood against censorship and SOPA, coming down on the site of the Moral Panic 2.0 hipsters calling for the internet wide censorship and controls. Or Slashdot, the site made by nerds, for nerds, coming down on the side of a transparent high school clique of social justice bullies who are ripping the tech sector apart at the seams.

    Because for all their hysteria and anti-intellectualism, the SJWs are at the end of the day, fakers and posers who never cared about geeks, tech, or hobbies. But you guys, Slashdot eds and the shills in these threads, you were nerds once, and somewhere behind all the shame and self-loathing you've self-indoctrinated yourselves with, you know how wrong all this is. You know how hollow and hypocritical people like Shanley and Sarkeesian are, and you know that nerds, geeks, and techies are being bullied into submission by these people. You could have simply done nothing, but instead you've sided with some of the worst, most vicious, and most destructive trolls in the history of the internet. Shame on you. Shame on you all.

    Thought For The Day: A heretic may see the truth and seek redemption. He may be forgiven his past and be absolved in death. A Traitor can never be forgiven. A Traitor can never find peace in this world or the next. There is nothing as wretched or as hated in all the world as a Traitor.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by kuzb ( 724081 )

      ....

      Wow. You managed to say everything I wished I had said, only you said it before I did and probably much better than I would have.

    • Jesus Fucking Christ

      Again.. Cut the guy some slack already!

    • I'm in awe!
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Because for all their hysteria and anti-intellectualism, the SJWs are at the end of the day, fakers and posers who never cared about geeks, tech, or hobbies.

      Let's be fair here: they also don't care about social justice, minorities, or women.

      They're just a band of trolls who use "social justice" causes as justifications for trolling. And they've been trying to get 8-chan shut down for the past six months. Looks like they may have found a tactic that works.

      And don't get me wrong, GamerGate is one of the silliest things I've heard about in a while. But no matter how pointless and silly I find the "gamer" outrage, the SJW side is terrifying and the women who the

      • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

        And don't get me wrong, GamerGate is one of the silliest things I've heard about in a while.

        It's only silly until you realize exactly how corrupt "gaming journalism" actually is. After all, who would want the media to not be full of people who are shilling for people they're banging/living with/or are friends with. Even the MSM has long figured out how to recuse themselves from topics they're too close to.

        • by Rakarra ( 112805 )

          It's only silly until you realize exactly how corrupt "gaming journalism" actually is.

          It's still amusing given how pointless and little-read "gaming journalism" really is. The GGers, the anti-GGers, and the gaming journalists all think that anything other than a small percentage of people who play games actually listens to any of their nonsense.

          • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

            It's still amusing given how pointless and little-read "gaming journalism" really is. The GGers, the anti-GGers, and the gaming journalists all think that anything other than a small percentage of people who play games actually listens to any of their nonsense.

            Considering that GG has done nothing but expand over the last 6mo, it does seem that people are listening to and paying attention to it. Then again, if you have any passing desire for people who report on things, to act in a ethical and objective manner it matters to you. Otherwise I'm sure you're quite happy with kotaku or gawker brand click-bait telling you how you're a terrorist for playing video games.

            • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

              Considering that GG has done nothing but expand over the last 6mo, it does seem that people are listening to and paying attention to it. Then again, if you have any passing desire for people who report on things, to act in a ethical and objective manner it matters to you. Otherwise I'm sure you're quite happy with kotaku or gawker brand click-bait telling you how you're a terrorist for playing video games.

              No, GG has died down. Seriously - the news on it has waned and the general public probably only saw it

  • by Chelloveck ( 14643 ) on Saturday February 14, 2015 @11:28AM (#49054663) Homepage
    I have a limited supply of fucks. Why should I give one to the drama, infighting, and paranoid delusions of a bunch of script kiddies?
  • There are two worlds out of three that I want to live in:

    1) a world where everyone knows how to dox, teaches how to dox, and uses it all the time as appropriate.

    2) a world where nobody uses doxing and doxing is frowned upon everywhere and under all circumstances

    3) a world where people don't do doxing, and it is frowned upon for people, but the NSA, CIA and law enforcement uses doxing internally, and it is accepted that they should do this.

    I want to live in 1) or 2), but I do not want to live in 3).

  • I'd rather focus on fixing the problems with using real names than "doxing" anonymous posters, for example.

  • I'd do that before I'd go around threatening a federal judge. And releasing their home address, phone numbers, social security numbers, etc. *is* threatening a federal judge. You're being incredibly naive if you think otherwise.

    I'm not saying judges are or should be untouchables. Not at all. Uncover and post every academic, financial, and personal acquiantance or interaction they've had since pre-school. That's useful and necessary oversight. But you do **NOT** post how to physically find them, interfere

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