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Outside Beijing, a Military-style Bootcamp For "Internet Addiction" 91

Press2ToContinue writes Last year, China recognized internet addiction as an official disorder. Since then, over 6,000 patients have submitted themselves for treatment, after some spent up to 14 hours a day online. And as these amazing pictures show, dealing with it is serious. The Daxing Internet Addiction Treatment Centre (IATC) is a military-style bootcamp nestled in the suburbs of Bejing. The young men that enter its doors are subjected to a strict military regime of exercise, medication and solitary confinement. Any kind of electronic gadgetry is completely banned. Additionally, patients are frequently subjected to psychiatric assessments and brain scans to make sure they stay on the straight and narrow. And the concept is gaining steam; the first Internet Congress on Internet Addiction Disorders was held in Milan in early 2014. Despite its recent official classification, Is internet addiction a real disorder? Or is it a red herring masking depression and escapism? And to make things more indeterminate, Isn't more and more time online the inevitable future?
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Outside Beijing, a Military-style Bootcamp For "Internet Addiction"

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    There's a lot to escape and be depressed about.

    • Re:Well (Score:4, Insightful)

      by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Sunday April 05, 2015 @07:33PM (#49411679)

      That is certainly true, and you do not even need to be in China for that. Most smart, perceptive people will develop an intense dislike for the way this installment of the human race is behaving in short order.

      • Yes, I actually thought this would be the greatest weight loss game [indiegogo.com] kind of system ever - "gain weight lose your Internet connection"

        But no, the target customers thought removing the Internet connection or television was not a funny game at all [reddit.com].

        instead it would be so "terrible",... and customers would happen to be forced to "disable", "remove", "destroy" etc. the thing..., because they don't need a baby sitter... because they are so damn good in losing weight. Maybe, China is arranging some kind of h
  • "Internet" addiction is scapegoating the medium.

  • It is Bullshit, IMO (Score:5, Interesting)

    by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Sunday April 05, 2015 @07:32PM (#49411675)

    Back in the day when I was a pupil I had "library addiction" for several years. I spent most of my free time in the library reading books. I event took a lot of books with me to read somewhere else. It was a fascinating experience with all the knowledge in there. Nobody in their right mind would have thought it was a problem. This "Internet addiction" is not different in any way I can see.

    • by stephanruby ( 542433 ) on Sunday April 05, 2015 @08:41PM (#49411899)

      Back in the day when I was a pupil I had "library addiction" for several years. I spent most of my free time in the library reading books.

      If you were reading books, that's completely different.

      However, if you had been going to the library to stare at the same page of your year book day after day pining over a classmate you had a crush on, or going to the library only to hide behind a bookshelf staring at your crush while she's studying with her boyfriend, that would be a closer analogue to what people do on the internet nowadays.

      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        I don't know what you do on the Internet, but what I do is often pretty close to reading books.

    • I think it's more about young people spending time on 'useless' things online like gaming.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Mashiki ( 184564 )

        Except 'online gaming' is far from useless. I use it(along with regular gaming) as part of my pain management under the recommendation of my neurologist and pain specialist. It helps reduce the amount of addicting narcotics I need to take, which in my book is a good thing. The reality is, some people can have a problem with anything. I rank 'internet addiction' far below actual social/societal problems in terms of things that should be looked at. You know, like poverty, substance abuse, general run of

        • Do you spend every waking minute playing, to the exclusion of all productive activity?
          • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

            Do you spend every waking minute playing, to the exclusion of all productive activity?

            That would imply I work, and am not retired already. There's a difference right?

            • Do you spend every waking minute playing, to the exclusion of all productive activity?

              That would imply I work, and am not retired already. There's a difference right?

              Productive activity and retirement are not mutually exclusive.

              • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

                Productive activity and retirement are not mutually exclusive.

                Really? I guess I should just throw my FOSS projects into the garbage bin then.

                • Productive activity and retirement are not mutually exclusive.

                  Really? I guess I should just throw my FOSS projects into the garbage bin then.

                  I think you missed the "not" in my sentence.

                  • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

                    Apparently. That's what narcotic pain medication gets ya, tiredness coupled with missing words in sentences.

    • by functor0 ( 89014 )
      An addiction is only a problem if it interferes with life to the point where it's detrimental. It's the same whether it's a "library addiction", "drinking addiction", or an "internet addiction". Doing something a lot isn't bad, but if you do it it to the point where it can harm yourself or someone else is a totally different matter. Take this story for example: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asi... [bbc.co.uk] where a couple inadvertently starved their 3 month old baby to death while spending 12 hour days at an internet ca
    • Yeah, but how many of those books were comics about cats?

    • by gnupun ( 752725 )

      Back in the day when I was a pupil I had "library addiction" for several years. I spent most of my free time in the library reading books... Nobody in their right mind would have thought it was a problem. This "Internet addiction" is not different in any way I can see.

      Except reading books is much harder (mental energy-wise) compared to browsing internet forums like facebook, slashdot, reddit etc. The latter are like junk food or vegging in front of TV, whereas reading real books is more like eating wholesom

    • Totally different thing. Most people who spend large number of hours on the internet are screwing around social media, etc. Hardly any of them will be reading reading Wikipedia articles or free on-line books for hours on end.
  • 1. Despite its recent official classification, Is internet addiction a real disorder?

    Yes. Any activity performed in such a way that it inhibits a person or makes them unhappy can become a disorder, a very real disorder. The exact behaviour is not relevant. It could be counting your steps - people do it obssessively and it gets in the way of their lives and makes their lives difficult - then its a disorder.

    2. Or is it a red herring masking depression and escapism?
    It can be. It can also be an OCD of its own

    • Re:answers: (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Fire_Wraith ( 1460385 ) on Sunday April 05, 2015 @08:00PM (#49411777)
      That's not a disorder in the sense that the average person means it though. In some ways this is similar to all those stupid "X with a computer" patents, in that somehow people think that adding a computer into the equation makes it magically different. Obsessive compulsive behavior already is a disorder, and is entirely different from what people usually mean when they talk about "internet addiction." The internet, and anything associated with it, be that "excessive" gaming or Facebook or whatever, are at most a symptom of something else. There is no inherent chemical dependency involved any more than with any other activity.

      If anything, this gets scapegoated by many people because it does not fit the old norms of human society. If those same youths were obsessively studying for schoolwork all day long, it would not elicit nearly the same reaction. If they spent their entire day socializing with friends in person, would anyone be surprised?

      As for the definition of online versus offline, that's a somewhat tricky distinction to make. It would be safer to say that in an increasingly connected world it will be harder to find anything that is "completely offline" unless you specifically seek it out - but, again, it's not like there's some ethernet port in my body that I plug a cable into that's delivering euphoric sensations I'm addicted to.
      • Re:answers: (Score:5, Insightful)

        by frank_adrian314159 ( 469671 ) on Monday April 06, 2015 @04:27AM (#49412895) Homepage

        First, your statement "there is no inherent chemical dependency involved any more than with any other activity", although prima facie true, as the neurological basis of psychological habituation is fairly-well understood and the same mechanisms are involved. However, this facile statement hides the fact that people become psychologically habituated to certain activities to varying degrees - saying that the mechanism is the same simplifies OCD into nail biting, even though treatment in each case would be completely different.

        Second, this disregard of severity of psychological habituation (I'll call it PH for brevity from here on out) seems to be matched by a notion that a communication medium has no bearing on how well material delivered through that medium can reinforce behavior, leading to astonishing statement "people think that adding a computer into the equation makes it magically different"! This is astonishing mainly because by trying to be sarcastic, you've actually stumbled upon the truth: Different mediums for reinforcement DO lead to different levels of reinforcement. Each medium provides a different experience - aesthetic experience, information content, activity levels, etc., etc., etc. In fact, it would be pretty fucking amazing if a new communications medium did not reinforce particular behaviors very well.

        Finally, it's odd that you see the internet as a neutral distribution medium. The atomized and fragmented nature of the internet makes it a lovely market for short, facile responses such as yours. It eschews long form thought and substitutes trope. In many ways, twitch response is a perfect metaphor for the internet - all reaction, no thought. And FPS games take this to a new level - all reaction, no thought, pretty much all the time. It is no surprise that you come to the defence of games as it is a perfect avatar for you. Your inability to achieve even shallow thought, coupled with nothing but sarcasm and a few common rhetorical tricks are the perfect prestidigitation for our commonly awful internet age. I fully expect to see you up-modded here.

        P.S. I normally don't swat at flies. But in this case, you gamesters are all swarming around a decaying corpse that you helped devour. Get the fuck out of the way so smart people can perform an autopsy.

        • What you seem to miss is that the addition of computers and the internet does not substantially change activity or interaction, it merely removes the penalty of distance. I am not required to go walk/bike/drive over to my friend's house in order to talk to them, or play games with them. I can send letters without waiting any significant amount of time for a response. It is also not the first to do so - the telephone has long since made this possible for voice communication, albeit with certain limitations.

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  • Because I would have been executed a long ago as a serious repeated offender...

  • that's what the Chinese are "protecting their ill citizens" from. the name on the top of the form changes, but it's always "you don't believe our crap, so you are nuts."

    • by Anonymous Coward

      it is not a bootcamp to cure people of internet addition, it is most definitely a 'reeducation' program. those with the 'addiction' are those most likely to be able to circumvent the great firewall and speak out about oppression and censorship... this is the chinese government's way of dealing with them in a manner that appears to the outside world to be 'a good thing'

  • We give kindergardeners smartphones and tablets as the new babysitter while convincing ourselves that this will make them more competitive with the foreigners. Obviously, it MUST be the smartphones/tablets which make them better at math and science...

  • by koan ( 80826 )

    I spend 12 hours a day or more on the computer, (work + hobbies) but it's a relief to go up to the mountains for a few days and not have anything around.

    Addicted? Maybe.

    "Isn't more and more time online the inevitable future?"

    I believe it is, however I believe that it will become more "transparent", we will be online but the way we do it will not keep us in one area, nor involve the use of a large gadget.

  • They are all "diet privates".

  • (I have asked my sister to share my story with you, I no longer use the internet.)

    When the ambulance arrived I could barely move. Lying on the floor in my own excrement, spasms jerking my body this way and that, I was not well. Not well.

    The doctors determined that I was near starvation and dehydrated. They filled me with fluids. But none of that explained why I was dehydrated. My dear sister had a hunch that was confirmed by the psychologist at the hospital. They conspired with others to put me in this plac

  • There is a fine documentary on this subject called "China's Web Junkies".
    All the young lads (they are all midteens) are put in these boot camps by their parents at great expense. They are not government re-education camps, there is no political angle to these kid's problems. Nor are they hackers of any kind.
    The main point to realise is that they are not addicted to the internet as such but to online gaming in particular. And they really do seem to be addicts. Their bragging about regularly playing for 24 or

  • by dcw3 ( 649211 )

    Stating that the "concept is gaining steam" immediately after mentioning how these people are being abused, is either purposely misleading, or poor editing. I'm not a grammar Nazi, but please stop with the click-bait, or you'll be losing more readers.

  • It just that these are played in computer cafes rather than at home.

    Heavy veido game use is an issue for some young men in the USA.
  • The way the word "addiction" is thrown around debases its meaning. What is being talked about in most cases - shopping addiction, computer addiction, sex addiction, cocaine addiction - is really compulsive behavior. And what ends up happening, in practice, because of this, is that actual addiction, (such as to opiates), is treated the same as compulsive behavior. Or rather, vice-versa. The Chinese, at least, are appropriately treating this compulsive behavior with behavior modification.
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