Android and iOS App Porting Will Not Be Available At Windows 10 Launch 51
An anonymous reader writes: Arguably the biggest news out of Microsoft's Build 2015 conference was that developers will be able to bring Web apps, Windows desktop apps (Win32), as well as Android and iOS mobile apps to the Windows Store. Yet each of these work differently, and there are a lot of nuances, so we talked to Todd Brix, general manager of Windows apps and store, to get some more detail. First and foremost, upon Windows 10's launch, developers will only be able to bring Web apps to the Windows Store. The Win32, Android, and iOS app toolkits will not be ready in time. That said, with Microsoft's Windows as a service strategy, they will arrive as part of later updates
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Sssshh! Don't tell anybody, but those of us using Windows Phones don't need all of the silly "apps" that Android and Apple users need because Windows Phone 8.1 is actually useful, in and of itself!
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Yes, now those five poor bastards who bought Windows 8 phones might...
I think you meant to say Microsoft 10 phones.
Once their phones are compatible with Android, they're planning to ditch the Windows name. [techradar.com]
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You didn't check the link I posted. It was for "Nokia by Microsoft" phone.
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'History Teacher'?? Is he also the wrestling coach?
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1) Photoshop
2) Full Office
3) World of Warcraft
4) All productivity software.
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To address each of your points.
Photoshop - Does anyone "really" run this on Windows?! I thought that was mostly a Mac thing, but whatever, I'll give that one to you.
Full Office - This is the big thing about the Build 2015, Office becoming its own platform. This "run Android / iOS" crap pales in comparison to the Office as a platform part. If Microsoft can do this whole thing "right" Office will become bigger than anything they imagined.
World of Warcraft - Really? Just no, you don't get that one.
All
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Photoshop - Does anyone "really" run this on Windows?! I thought that was mostly a Mac thing, but whatever, I'll give that one to you.
No one runs it on OS X anymore either. Sure there are probably a few firms that still have some copies in use because they have old graphics designers that are incapable of moving to something else. For low to not ultra-heavy work, theres pixelmator which does everything that the various versions of photoshop due (excluding the medical edition of photoshop) and for the very high end side there are multiple photoshop replacements.
Photoshop once ruled supreme, today, after everything Adobe has done to it in
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Never said for Notes. Just ditched Exchange. As far as email goes, we stopped hosting it. It was a huge drain on cash and the seventh most ticketed item in help desk was always something like, "help my phone stopped getting email."
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They couldn't do it with iOS, but why couldn't Microsoft just do what BB did and throw an Android compatibility layer into Windows? Since from what I'm reading now it doesn't sound like these new projects are going to fix UI specifics, why not just say "fuck it", and put Android or Dalvik in a VM?
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Because then you wouldn't be able to use any platform specific features. Also BB didn't exactly profit from that approach. If they re-compile for the native platform they are more likely to actually add a few specific features as they go like live tiles while they've got it 'open' so to speak.
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While true, Microsoft is going for a two-pronged approach with Android developers. First, if their apps are using a specific set of API's, mainly a version of the ASOP, then they can take their unmodified already compiled apk, and submit it to the store. Microsoft will handle all the redirection to their own store API, and similar functionality.
If the Developers want to use any Windows 10 specific features, such as Live Tiles, then they need to compile the app with a few extra lines of code, and the app wil
Re:More important than the technical questions is (Score:4, Insightful)
Who said "Desktop" the point is to get these onto Smartphones and Tablets. The fact that it'll also run on the desktop is sort of besides the point.
Re:More important than the technical questions is (Score:5, Insightful)
Totally underrated comment. You hit the nail on the head. I think Slashdot has a way of attracting desktop thinkers, which isn't a bad thing don't get me wrong on that point. However, I hear the same old stale arguments tossed out there about desktops every year and every year desktop sales erode just a little bit more. In my company, there are like ten to fifteen technical workers that use desktops to create online business reporting that hundreds of end users use on their iPads and Android tablets. The desktops are still there, we just need less of them because the mobile devices do 99% of the work for 90% of the employees. The crap like working with spreadsheets sent in and all of that crap, the company fired those folks because they figured out that they could automate all that crap with advanced ETL tools. What used to be Word documents that held all our company processes, has changed into someone from the engineering department passing a BPMN document into an online processor and it spitting out technical documents that people on the floor modify using their tablets. I'd say about 80% of the technical documentation is now written by a computer, the other 20% is done on a tablet. Presentations are pretty much take a bunch of photos from your phone, some charts and data taken from the BI reporting tool, and about 100 or less words dictated to the iPad, and boom you've got your quarterly meeting presentation. Again, majority of the information comes from a machine and the small amount of actual work to be done a desktop is forty billion times over qualified.
So for the guy above you who thinks all this stuff is so far off. This is something that happens today because the majority of actual work isn't done by humans anyway. The stuff doesn't have to be more capable because we fired those people who required that and automated their job. We don't need more software, sheer numbers is just a dumb figure. We don't care about usability, pretty much everything is just a computer talking to a computer, we just need to see the end result, and the people who maintain the two systems talking to each other, we need at most like three of them. Desktops are not dead and they aren't going to die off completely, but we need way fewer of them now and that trend is only going to increase.
Not sure of the benefit here (Score:3)
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Sounds like you haven't a clue as to what rsilvergun was talking about.
Job offers != job "interested" (Score:1)
I'd love to have 30 job OFFERS a day. These are not offers.
iOS apps on Windows store (Score:1)
Someone doesn't know WTF they are talking about. Windows store containing iOS apps ... which can't actually sign them with the digital signature required to actually load to a iOS device and run ...
And if they are referring to web pages ... well, web pages != apps, stop ruining the terminology you ignorant fucks.
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I can upload apps now to random websites ... they won't get loaded to an iOS device nor will the run on iOS devices. Thats not something Microsoft can change with out a jailbreak or their would be a metric fuckton more support for things like Cydia.
And if they're trying to imply they've emulated iOS's API and you can run iOS apps on Windows10 devices ... BWHAAHAHAHAHA sure you did. I'm sure that works great for a tiny ass demo app like hello world, beyond that the only way they could get proper emulation
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Just for reference, what they ACTUALLY MEAN is that you'll be able to compile Java (android) or Objective C (iOS) for Windows apps, thats about all, so no, you won't be able to run Android or iOS apps on your Windows 10 device, you'll be able to run some half ass half where the developer attempts to point only bits of they application for the OS interaction.
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You know so much it's fucking amazing you don't work for Apple!!
Oh, wait...
Naw. They'd not bother paying you.
A better DOS than DOS (Score:2)
Will Windows Phone thrive by being a better iOS than iOS and a better Android than Android? It did not work for OS/2 20 years ago.