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ARIN IPv4 Addresses Run Out Tomorrow 215

jcomeau_ictx provided that teaser of a headline, but writes: Not really. But the countdown at should go to zero sometime tomorrow around noon, considering it's at 45,107 as I write this, it's counting down about one address every two seconds, and there are 86,400 seconds per day. Just happened to notice it today. Might be worth a little celebration at every NOC and IT enterprise tomorrow.
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ARIN IPv4 Addresses Run Out Tomorrow

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  • by haus ( 129916 ) on Saturday August 01, 2015 @05:41PM (#50230903) Homepage Journal

    ...I may as well just refer to an old comment... []

  • I am wondering whether at this point ARIN would be justified to raising the price for remaining IPv4 addresses and offer IPv6 addresses at a lower cost? And then raise cost as a ratio of remaining IPv4 addresses available to hand out? I am sure this would change business perspective on how much to delay IPv6 adoption?

    • by jbolden ( 176878 )

      They did that. ARIN didn't want to raise prices they just blew through their IPv4s. So ISPs will need to buy them from each other rather while IPv6 addresses will given out for free.

      • by Bengie ( 1121981 )
        ARIN already laid out several phases. A few months ago they started to limit how many IPs they handed out, a month ago they started to reject some requests. We're reaching the end game, which includes reclaiming IPs. You will need to prove every year that you still need your blocks more than others, and every year ARIN will get more strict and refuse renewal for some customers so other customers that are more deserving get some. It will start to get painful.
        • by jbolden ( 176878 )

          I hope ARIN doesn't reclaim. Let the shortages create the pain.

          • by sjames ( 1099 )

            The problem there is it will cause pain to all the wrong people. New business, need 5 IPs? That'll cost ya! Go with IPv6, half your customers ISPs haven't crawled out of the slime yet and so they won't be able to reach you at all.

            The ISPs themselves? They have a massive pool of IPs and they aren't afraid to NAT them.

            Until major sites start having v4 blackout days, the pain won't hit the right people.

            • by jbolden ( 176878 )

              True. But other than outright regulation / fines... I'm not sure how to hit the right people. Right now we have:

              a) ISPs being sluggish
              b) Some network people at companies being obstinate
              c) Companies being irresponsible about their own conversion
              d) The government not leading the effort (though in all fairness the Obama administration is better than I would expect on IPv6 issues).

              • by sjames ( 1099 )

                One approach would be via the FTC. Simply offering connectivity to IPv5 is no longer connectivity to 'The Internet'. Perhaps the ISPs should be forced to either get v6 up and running or cease advertising themselves as an ISP. Instead, they should be forced to call themselves deprecated ISPs. Perhaps we should legally define provision of v4 only as 'shitty service' and force them to advertise that. As in, Ajax ISP, shitty service for $60/month.

                b and c are difficult, but take care of a and d and the pressure

            • If the ISP is able to get one IPv4 address, then they can NAT64 the rest of their network. Sure there will be a lot of software that breaks, but that is going to be a growing reality for many people.

    • A good example of this is where I needed a small cheap Linux vps with ipv6 for reasons.. I found one with a small Dutch vendor with 256mb of ram, ipv6 support, and a fair amount of diskspace for $4.00/YEAR.. I knew they were getting cheap but not THIS cheap.. anyway I'm probably not going to need it for more than a few months, so I signed up for one and when I went to provision it, the provisioning config page showed it came with 2 ipv6 addresses included, but if you wanted a v4 address it was an additional

  • ARIN IPv4 Addresses Run Out Tomorrow

    Not really.


    Tunnelbroker or whatever site's "countdown gadget" is only an illustrative approximation anyways. The only entity that can really say ARIN IPv4 addresses run out is ARIN.

    We are also guaranteed they won't run out tomorrow, since ARIN doesn't make allocations on non-business days.

    It's also pretty unlikely there will be 200 /24 requests answered on Monday.

    And even after that, there are certain reserved ranges that won't be run out.

    As for having

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