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'The Room Had Started To Smell. Really Quite Bad': Stephen Fry Exits Twitter (betanews.com) 305

Mark Wilson writes: For a man so readily associated with words — and certainly for a wordsmith so enamored with technology — Twitter seems like something of a natural home for Stephen Fry. Over the years he has amassed hundreds of thousands of followers, but last night he closed his account. Fry's latest exit from Twitter (there have been several over the last few years for numerous reasons) came about because of the backlash he received for making a joke at an award ceremony. Hosting the BATFAs (British Academy of Film and Television Arts) on Sunday, he referred to costume designer and award winner (and, indeed, friend) Jenny Beavan as being 'dressed as a bag lady'. 'Offended' Twitter users attacked Fry in their droves, and he fought a valiant battle, before eventually giving up and terminating his account. It comes just days after Twitter set up a new Trust & Safety Council.
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'The Room Had Started To Smell. Really Quite Bad': Stephen Fry Exits Twitter

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  • by gnaarly ( 4078217 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @01:34PM (#51512145)
    Closing your account stops them from tweeting at you. But they are still out there.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 15, 2016 @01:39PM (#51512189)

      So? They were their before, but it was web forums, email mailing lists, newgroups et al. Life if full of cunts, twats, and fucking morons. Social media merely gives these tossers a global voice. Ignore them.

      • by ArmoredDragon ( 3450605 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @02:50PM (#51512987)

        Well this is a whole new breed of cunt. The previous generation of cunts would call you dirty names and shit, however the new generation of cunts call themselves "politically correct" and will use clean sounding but still inappropriately placed words like "racist" "bigot" "misogynist" "homophobe" or label you as one who uses "hate speech", even when none of these terms apply to you in any way possible. In other words, the old cunts were hecklers, the new cunts are self-righteous assholes.

        In fact, here's a video of what it's like to be assaulted by a hoard of these cunts:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

        • by Lumpy ( 12016 )

          The world has ALWAYS been full of self righteous assholes.

          Honestly, assume people are pieces of crap until they prove otherwise. It's a lot easier and safer.

        • by Shadow of Eternity ( 795165 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @03:58PM (#51513611)

          That's astoundingly gentle and well behaved. this [youtube.com] is more representative of the level of violence disguised as victimhood you can expect from these people.

        • It is politically correct to blame things on political correctness.

        • by rednip ( 186217 )

          Why do you think that people are not entitled to their opinion? The irony is that you complain about 'political correctness' while complaining viciously about 'other people's language'. I can only come to the conclusion that they aren't 'politically correct' for your tastes

          In reality, what you seem to think are earnest 'self righteous' (let me use the word you almost said) 'Social Justice Warriors', are simply a new version of trolls. 'this new generation' of trolls understands that everything you do o

          • by Mashiki ( 184564 ) <mashiki AT gmail DOT com> on Monday February 15, 2016 @11:07PM (#51516623) Homepage

            Why do you think that people are not entitled to their opinion? The irony is that you complain about 'political correctness' while complaining viciously about 'other people's language'. I can only come to the conclusion that they aren't 'politically correct' for your tastes

            In reality, what you seem to think are earnest 'self righteous' (let me use the word you almost said) 'Social Justice Warriors', are simply a new version of trolls.

            They're welcome to their opinion. Though their viewpoints end when they decide that their version of letting other speak, doesn't exist. The thing is, they're not trolls. They see themselves as "doing the right thing" or "the right side of history." You'll find that many of those SJW's subscribe to the "no bad tactics, only targets" theory of doing things. And would rather shut down any speech that's contrary to their narrow viewpoint on the world. See the university protests for example, or pulling fire alarms to stop people from speaking, or the most recent examples of no-platforming BS with Rutgers with Milo Yiannopoulos. Or Dawkins, Peter Tatchell, or Julie Bindel and so on. That's only a small sampling of the BS going on. And all the while, they're engaging in overt racism, such as safe spaces...for anyone but those whites or asians. Any place except for those hetrosexuals...or gays that don't do what we tell them, and so on. That moves them from trolls right into authoritarians.

              People just see the writing on the wall with Twitter, the second they put a bunch of groups in place that have a history of shutting down speech because it hurts their feelings, or the feelings of other people it was enough. Especially groups that believe that dissenting viewpoints are harassment like Feminist Frequency.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 15, 2016 @02:53PM (#51513021)

        I wish it were as easy as ignoring them. These kinds of mobs are now driving policy and causing the concept of free speech to be rolled back on what is now a rather significant swath of communication on the internet.

      • They can now unite, online and shout together as one group of politically correct extremists, not only allowing them to fuel deeper and deeper thought processes into what is NEW and politically correct but allowing them to harass others to join them or harass business and government to make policy changes and think of "the children" (or rather, any unique snowflake)

        It's becoming quite worrying and there's beginning to be more and more people sick of their shit online it seems. The more of these articles I

    • by barc0001 ( 173002 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @01:49PM (#51512299)

      But you can also never reason with them. One of the reasons I don't use social media is I don't feel like engaging with random idiots who are either some tenuous friend of a friend coworker's cousin by marriage 14 places removed or complete strangers who just happened on a comment. Dealing with that crap can sometimes be draining even if you're only reading their comment and then completely ignoring it afterward. It takes up mental cycles no matter what, and when some of these people are trying to get a deliberate rise out of you, you occasionally feel a stab of wanting to respond to the provocation.

      Much easier to not be in that situation to begin with. For me the "ups" of being on social media and engaging with friends is outweighed by the potential for conflict with random clowns. Plus I find a lot of people on social media overshare waaaaaay too much.

      • But you can also never reason with them. One of the reasons I don't use social media is I don't feel like engaging with random idiots who are either some tenuous friend of a friend coworker's cousin by marriage 14 places removed or complete strangers who just happened on a comment. Dealing with that crap can sometimes be draining even if you're only reading their comment and then completely ignoring it afterward. It takes up mental cycles no matter what, and when some of these people are trying to get a deliberate rise out of you, you occasionally feel a stab of wanting to respond to the provocation.

        How is that any different than posting on Slashdot? Surely it's just as stressful dealing with all the contrarianism here.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 15, 2016 @02:02PM (#51512433)

      These people don't stop existing, though

      Well, in a way they do.

      "If you don't like the jokes stay out of the comedy clubs... If you don't like criticism stop googling yourself every 10 seconds." (Louis C.K. on The Daily Show, July 16th, 2012 [cc.com])

      By leaving Twitter he's no longer giving those people his ear. They don't matter to him anymore, they stop existing to him.

    • by Kohath ( 38547 )

      Sort of. Who would listen to them anywhere else though? A large part of what they're doing is trolling or some other form of attention whoring. Without instant feedback there's no point.

    • Actually, they do stop existing.

      There are a shit load of people who don't exist.

      I don't have a Snapchat account. I don't have a fucking clue about what goes on over there. Those people don't exist in my world.

  • Twitter has always smelled like a drive by after burrito night. It just depends on whether your own stink overpowers others, as you can handle your own.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 15, 2016 @01:44PM (#51512237)

    The ironic thing here is that it's very unlikely that Twitter's "Trust and Safety Council" would have sided with Stephen Fry. Remember, he insulted a Protected Class of individual, and it's therefore just as likely that he would have been banned for his remarks. He pissed off SJWs and couldn't deal with the fallout, which I can completely understand. SJWs are nasty individuals who will never stop harassing people in their supposed crusade against harassment.

    Still, this is just yet another example of what we all know: Twitter is pretty much just a platform for anonymously trolling famous people. Once it finally fails (and it's circling the drain, the Trust and Safety Council is just one example), the world will be a better place.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      The ironic thing here is that it's very unlikely that Twitter's "Trust and Safety Council" would have sided with Stephen Fry.

      That isn't ironic, that's his whole point. He's had it with this nanny nonsense where you aren't allowed to joke about anything lest someone get their poor little feelings hurt. And good on him for standing up to it.

  • by jtownatpunk.net ( 245670 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @01:46PM (#51512251)

    She was dressed pretty meh for a costume designer.

  • And I choose to reject your offense and substitute it with my own. Boring. Like watching any number of my friends that I am connected with on facebook go through the cycle of "OMG I LOVE HIM" to vague "WHY CAN'T YOU TRUST ANYONE" to "XYZ is single and just focusing on myself" to "OMG I LOVE HIM IDC WHAT ANYONE SAYS" over and over. It is really perpetuating the kindergarten/elementary communication style that I would hope most people would grow out of, but all the social media outlets allow a person to
  • by Egg Sniper ( 647211 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @01:49PM (#51512295)

    Are we caring about that?

    (Why is this appearing on Slashdot?)

    • Love it or hate it, Twitter, and whether or not it sucks, is very much a Slashdot thing in both social, political, and techie respects.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 15, 2016 @01:50PM (#51512305)

    Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

  • DNA (Score:5, Funny)

    by Hognoxious ( 631665 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @01:53PM (#51512341) Homepage Journal

    BATFAs (British Academy of Film and Television Arts)

    Brought to you by DNA (National Dyslexics Association).

  • by Kohath ( 38547 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @01:59PM (#51512395)

    As the politically correct SJW crybullies slowly destroy Twitter, it will be interesting to see if Silicon Valley's shallow cultural leftist elite finally wake up and start pushing back. A lot of them like Twitter and some of them invested money in it.

    The media like Twitter too, but the media are unreformable; a lost cause in every way.

  • by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @02:01PM (#51512415)

    I work in a job where (as a "thought leader") I'm supposed to tweet regularly, but I never, ever find time to read anything from Twitter. It's a write-only assignment as far as I'm concerned - it could be /dev/null for all I know or care.

    I'll bet there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of people like me out there too, all dumping regularly scheduled 140-character tweets into a space probably half populated with advertiser's bots using keyword-based algorithm to retweet, favorite and react to my stuff, all for the benefit of even more robots.

  • >Fry's latest exit from Twitter (there have been several over the last few years for numerous reasons)

    The fucks not given kinda remind me of his Gordon Deitrich. It sounds like when he gets fed up he simply walks off. Like he doesn't believe in the power that pixels on a screen have. Which we all know is wrong, angry internet words warrant five-figure support stipends.

    I'm guessing "bag lady" is supposed to be some mudblood namecalling, but I'm still pretty sure I've seen darker friend roasts.

  • I've read through the comments hoping that someone would explain what a bag lady is. No luck. Apparently it's just a homeless person.

    I'd kinda like to read what got people so up in arms about that, but not enough to actually go to Twitter and find out for myself.
    • by Austerity Empowers ( 669817 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @02:26PM (#51512727)

      A stereotypical homeless woman who wanders around the streets with bags of "stuff" she has collected, frequently recovered from garbage cans. The bags are frequently piled high in shopping carts, with other bags being held in a free hand and often even attached to her back. When the police crackdown on the homeless these women can be seen obsessively gathering up their bags and hauling them off to some other place. It's a real thing if you spent any time in a big city like New York. (Often in this case, the bags are full of recyclable cans and bottles, which return $.05/unit returned at recycling centers...or did 10 years ago when I lived there)

      It's probably rude in polite company to use this term about an actual bag lady, it's ruder still to apply this to someone's appearance. But in the past one can be rude and crude and you simply ignored and avoided him. Now it seems as if a portion of the population feels empowered to make their own random comments based largely on ignorance and a misguided sense of judgement via Twitter. Turn-about is fair play I guess, but whatever happened to "taking the high road"?

      • If someone is 'dressed like a bag lady', only a real friend will tell them.

        Everybody else just laughs privately.

        If one of your friends decided that 'dressing like an ancient Egyptian' was the next big thing, you'd tell them they were being an idiot wouldn't you?

        Bag lady chic is the same thing. Too many drugs make people think stupid things are clever.

      • by Cederic ( 9623 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @04:10PM (#51513699) Journal

        I think you'll find Stephen Fry is fully aware of the stereotypical homeless woman described as a bag lady.

        Using the term to be rude about someone's description could be nasty, or it could be a joke. It could be both.

        In context it was clearly a joke, especially given its reference to her profession.

        Turnabout is not fair play. If they'd mocked Fry for his clothing it would have been misplaced (given what he wears when presenting QI, quite apart from anything else) but fair game. Harassing him for making a funny joke? Fuck that.

  • by epine ( 68316 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @02:26PM (#51512725)

    From his blog post:

    A stalking ground for the sanctimoniously self-righteous who love to second-guess, to leap to conclusions and be offended — worse, to be offended on behalf of others they do not even know. It's as nasty and unwholesome a characteristic as can be imagined.

    An old friend of his might have commended him thusly: @Fry sinister bullshit bullseye

  • I feel for you, I really do, but dude... It's Twitter. It just doesn't matter much. Really.
  • Hopefully a trend (Score:4, Interesting)

    by wjcofkc ( 964165 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @03:43PM (#51513471)
    I am no social media guru, but I am seeing a slow trend toward abandoning social media. I myself eradicated my facebook account several years ago. Why? So much endless bullshit and a total waste of time. From there I migrated to a young, sparsely populated Google+. It was good for awhile. A few weeks ago I deleted my G+ account. Why? So much bullshit and a total waste of time. Never had a twitter account and never will. I will admit that I am as of recently on Diaspora, and while I have reservations of it turning into so much shit, it is actually pretty easy to tune out what you don't want and most people only post casually and not so frequently since there is no model for a popularity contest in place. It's decentralized, federated model is pretty unique to. Yet I suspect that at some time in the future I will abandon it over... so much bullshit. I know a lot of people from many walks of life who, reluctantly, dropped social media. I know the likes of Facebook and Twitter have massive user bases, but it is a start and the citizens of the internet like trends. Social media is a blight on human civilization, I can only hope that at some point it will in fact come to an end.
    • My facebook is still usable, mainly because I only "friended" people I actually know and care about, and they did the same, and when anyone posts its normally about something worth sharing without overdoing it, for instance weddings of people most of us actually know, visits to other friends and things that have meaning like a house move.

      As far as twitter goes.. I have an account, but never post (well maybe about twice a year but normally for some specific reason), don't follow friends as neither do they, a

  • by tgibson ( 131396 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @04:06PM (#51513665) Homepage

    Stealth Mountain [twitter.com] is a Twitter bot that tersely informs Twitter users when they mistakenly write “sneak peak": @___ I think you mean sneak peek.

    The enraged, frothing responses [twitter.com] confirm that this is an exemplar of how Twitter should be used.

  • I was a late adopter to Twitter, and social media in general, mostly because I used to see them only as a mean for teenagers to share pictures of them eating doritos or doing duck kisses selfies. But then, as in anything created, I'm always trying to see how I could use things for meaningful purpose, and I found Twitter to be like a RSS feed on steroids. It allows me to get the latest activities from researchers, or quick knowledge on the latest vuilnerabilities without browsing 10-12 different websites. Ye

  • by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @06:17PM (#51514747)

    The tyranny of the terminally offended special snowflakes....

    Seriously, you could tweet "I like kittens" and you would probably get 1000 SJWs berating you for triggering them or appropriating "animal culture" or contributing to the objectification of animals.

    The fact that a guy like Stephen Fry up and left the festering cesspool known as twitter gives me hope for the human race.

    He's a hell of a nice guy, yet that was no defense against the perpetually offended crybullies that infest twitter.

  • by AbRASiON ( 589899 ) * on Monday February 15, 2016 @09:00PM (#51515901) Journal

    You know, the same group which is anti-harassment, the SECOND you cross these motherfuckers they will hound the shit out of you, doxx you, try their darndest to hurt you (normally your place of employment) etc.
    Say something they disagree with and instead of them saying "fuck you cunt" they say, what I think is much worse, lies : "you're a racist!" "you're a homophobe!" etc, they'll try to spin things about you which are obviously not positive things (I'm not endorsing racism / homophobia)

    There is an endless race it seems to be the most politically correct, it's quite literally (literally!) the current 'fad' right now. Who can be the most offended? Who has the most empathy? It's ME! It's ME! (stamps foot!) I am the one who cares the most about .
    Thing is, there's nothing inherently wrong with being for peoples rights, obviously. It's the methodology used, the cultish "with us or against us, outright!" attitude, the censorship of those who don't just disagree but dare to even begin to ask questions.
    Furthermore, I'm truly not convinced a lot of these people actually believe all this, DEEP DOWN. On the surface they do but they don't know why. I get the impression many of the people in the extremist PC group are white, straight and somewhat well off.

    I see it on my facebook feed, I can think of 2 people out of my mere 55 friends who have both made a point of posting pro gay rights stuff or chiming in on other topics which I know for a FACT these people have said quite harsh things about these groups previously and not that long ago.

    To wind back on topic, poor Stephen Fry thinks twitter is fully of bullies, the same dipshits (or similar dipshits) who abused him off of twitter will again, point their fingers and angrily shout "see it's bullies!! we need even more politically correct tools, censorship, filters and algorithm based tweets to hide these angry people" not seeing the irony of the behaviour within many of the extremist PC ranks.

    Honestly I tire of it. Try and have a rational discussion with them though and sooner or later they'll find the ammo to label you something or other awful.

  • There is no one so far to the left that, eventually, they will not be attacked -- from someone even *farther* to the left.
    Go ahead and laugh. You'll laugh, you good progressive -- until the surreal moment when it happens to you.

  • by dudpixel ( 1429789 ) on Monday February 15, 2016 @10:57PM (#51516579)

    I was of the understanding that the Trust and Safety Council was specifically invented to protect the "offended" crowd.

    These people seem to turn "being offended" into a profession.

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