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Israel Thwarts Attempt To Smuggle Commercial Drones Into Gaza 312

An anonymous reader writes: The Jerusalem Post reports that the Shin Bet intelligence agency recently foiled an attempt to smuggle commercial multicopter drones into Gaza, Israel authorities announced on Sunday. The inspectors stopped an Israeli truck carrying toys at the Kerem Shalom Crossing, where drones of various types and sizes carrying high quality cameras were found. Additional attempts to smuggle commercial drones were intercepted by the Shin Bet in recent weeks. The drones were earmarked for use by Hamas group in Gaza. Close inspection of released images reveal what seems to be a Syma X5 FPV quadcopter. Those toy-grade multirrotors have a onboard wifi camera. Once you've downloaded the streaming app to your phone you are able to connect the on board camera to your phone and use it to give you FPV footage.
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Israel Thwarts Attempt To Smuggle Commercial Drones Into Gaza

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  • The world... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    The world is such a sad place.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 22, 2016 @01:30PM (#51560295)

    What exactly do they have to hide?

    And why do they only ban them for Palestinians?

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by JoshuaZ ( 1134087 )
      Drones can be easily used as weapons against civilian targets. It isn't much more complicated than strapping explosives to them. It would be one thing if these drones were going to the West Bank which is relatively peaceful, but these were going to Gaza which is controlled by Hamas.
      • These are lightweight copters, not capable of carrying much. Sure, a swarm could do a lot of damage in a crowd, but I think the biggest concern is their use in ISR.
      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by pla ( 258480 )
        It isn't much more complicated than strapping explosives to them.

        "It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut."


        Drones can be easily used as weapons against civilian targets.

        No, no they couldn't. They can, however, provide effective reconnaissance, possibly giving the inmates a fair chance to avoid approaching Israeli Caterpillars-of-mass-destruction. I mean, can you imagine the treat to Israeli citizens,
        • by Dog-Cow ( 21281 )

          If you lived in Gaza, you would learn the truth. Or you'd get killed. Win/Win!

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      What exactly do they have to hide?

      Probably the location of undefended women and children, whom the Hamas terrorists would like to murder. This is not idle speculation, as a) it has happened many times in the past, including recently, and b) the Hamas leadership has stated that this is what they want to do.

      And why do they only ban them for Palestinians?

      Probably because the Palestinians are the only ones trying to kill Israelis that Israel shares a border and checkpoints with. Do you expect them to try and ban drones in Sweden? Doesn't the answer to this question seem sort of obvious i

    • Because quads with cameras make really excellent flying bombs?

      Unfortunately the part they are missing is that these 'wifi' cameras work about as far as you can throw them, so they aren't really dangerous at all.

      900/400mhz cameras are the ones to fear, they'll work for miles with off the shelf transmitters. Mine does about 1.5m and its only running at 250mw, its capable of 1000mw output

  • by Grishnakh ( 216268 ) on Monday February 22, 2016 @01:31PM (#51560297)

    They should just let them have the drones, and put up WiFi jammers around the perimeter of the Strip so that the drones are useless outside of Gaza. These things can't have that much range anyway.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by PIBM ( 588930 )

      Range of "Up to 160ft!" in the docs. I'm sure that I can throw whatever payload those drones could lift further than they can fly.

      • Well ... according to the link In the Summary ( http://www.dx.com/p/syma-x5sw-... [dx.com] )

        It lists the range at 100 meters which, if you don't speak metric, translates to a little under 330 feet or 110 yards, whichever you feel comfortable with.

        To put it a different way, just about the distance from one set of uprights to the other on an NFL football field.

        I don't know about you, but my arm isn't that good.

        • Yes, and my access point claims 100m range as well. It doesn't work at the bottom of the garden. Those are very optimistic figures based on the assumption that you are operating the drone in free space, several kilometers from any other source of interference.

        • baseball record is about 136 meters. the ball left his hand going 120mph, he had a running start.

          for comparison, in 2008 the average pitch speed on a fastball was 91mph in the major leagues. now apparently there are people breaking 100 consistently. ... but yes, i don't think throwing anything 100 meters... is going to be more accurate or reliable than droning it there.

      • The funny thing is, when they lose range, they continue on as the last known stick position. So if someone set it to fly due north at a 10 degree incline, it'll just keep on going north gaining height and distance until the battery runs out. Usually about 5-10 minutes per charge for these X5C. It'll probably go far enough to freak people out and they'll end up with useless X5Cs on all the rooftops.

        Thankfully the power is not enough to attach any sort of harmful device on them. At least, not the toys like th

    • Defcon Wifi Shootout http://boingboing.net/2005/07/... [boingboing.net] 125 mile Wifi range. I'm guessing this will be hard to jam since it's so highly directional. Of course, with a flying object, you'll need to use a slightly wider angle, but still hard to jam.
      • Interesting idea.

        Then flight time/lift potentially becomes more of the limiting factor than radio range.

        I wonder how far this could theoretically travel on its 6-8 minutes of battery life.

  • by presidenteloco ( 659168 ) on Monday February 22, 2016 @01:32PM (#51560311)

    under house arrest in their own home.
    They are not regular free human beings like you and me.

    And the world allows this F'd up situation to continue.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Sadly ironic that Israel has created two giant Palestinian concentration camps, complete with walls, guards, starvation and oppression--the whole nine yards.

      Of course they don't want Palestinians filming any of this.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by slashping ( 2674483 )
      Regular free human beings like me don't have the intention of wiping Israel off the map if we had a chance.
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by rch7 ( 4086979 )

      Regular human beings allow other human beings nearby to exist. And when you deny them right of existence and want to push them to the sea, no wonder you are treated as war time enemy.

    • by Dog-Cow ( 21281 )

      Damn those Nazi Egyptians! Penning in those innocent Arabs trying to wipe a country off the map! Oh, the humanity!

      If you would move yourself and your family to Gaza, you would learn the truth. Or you'd get killed. Win/Win

  • My Syma X5 lasted maybe 10-15 flights before one of the motors started failing. I bought and installed a replacement motor and almost immediately two more motors started failing. "Toy-grade" is right.

  • Tits for tats, the stronger does it more, the weaker takes revenge and so it goes merry go round.

    A total failure - human conditions are despicable - politicians, religious leaders and other brain amputated want-to-be bigwigs can't swing it and should live under those conditions for a while to get the taste of their idiocy. Fat chance it ever happens....

    The trauma accumulated in the affected people will resound for generations and perpetuate if it ever get resolved.

  • by PPH ( 736903 ) on Monday February 22, 2016 @03:32PM (#51561521)

    The genocide will not be televised.

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