Fired Reddit Exec Launches Competing Site (thenextweb.com) 273
An anonymous reader writes: "Dan McComas, the former second-in-command at Reddit -- and vocal critic of its more inflammatory groups -- wants to build a better Reddit, one that focuses on 'healthy, positive communities,'" reports TheNextWeb. Raising $3 million, Imzy.com quietly launched earlier this year with over 500 discussion forums, aspiring to become an advertising-free space where content creators can interact with their fans. Moderators and users of Imzy can be "tipped" with online payments from other users, while the site hopes to remain advertising-free by taking a cut from on-site transactions. But "at its core though, Imzy wants to provide a safe place to share and discuss without the fear of being harassed, a problem Reddit has struggled with for several years."
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am i the only one that felt the cult vibe from the website?
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A community that focuses on giving wealth and general messages of positivity and encouragement to a person in a leadership role encased in a cutesy art style? Never.
Re: define healthy (Score:3, Insightful)
A community where minorities and women are gods and the straight white man is not allowed unless he denigrates his own kind to bow to his new overlords.
Re: define healthy (Score:5, Funny)
Which is why I'm registered in as a mulitracial trans 'man' refugee, rape and FGM survivor.
Bow to my hormonally enlarged clitoral stub.
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A community where minorities and women are gods and the straight white man is not allowed unless he denigrates his own kind to bow to his new overlords.
Jesus, butt-hurt and whiny much?
Re: define healthy (Score:5, Insightful)
So, I checked out the site and it's invite only. Did you get an invite? Have you actually confirmed that it discriminates against straight white men?
There are too many perpetual victims on Slashdot these days.
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A community where minorities and women are gods and the straight white man is not allowed unless he denigrates his own kind to bow to his new overlords.
It's terrible. That was literally the only place on the internet where a straight white man could feel comfortable and it's been ruined. There is officially nowhere else for you. You are now an oppressed minority.
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It's terrible. That was literally the only place on the internet where a straight white man could feel comfortable and it's been ruined. There is officially nowhere else for you. You are now an oppressed minority.
"We demand xyz groups let us in, if they don't they're sexist/racist/homophobic!" Groups let them in.
Same said people who were whining: "We're creating safe spaces for xyz groups! Look how progressive we are!" People face palm from the hypocrisy.
Sorry, the real problem is the unbelievable hypocrisy and demands from the perpetual whiners when they want something and decide to invade someone else's places, while demanding privileges and expecting that content creators or societies bend over backwards for t
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Trouble is that people like you seem to believe the entire world is your space, because when someone creates a new place (what this thread is about), people like you start whining horribly like someone has stolen something from you.
You seem to be kind of dense, so I'll use smaller words. See it's not me that believes the entire world is my space. I have my spaces, it's when those perpetual whiners want to invade those spaces that are mine and take them away. Easy isn't it?
Indeed, so when someone actually starts using their free speech and freedom of assosciation, the perpetual whiners like you are all over it because apparently they used their freedoms wrong and that makes you sad and cross.
Very strange, considering the people(aka progressives) who are the perpetual whiners that want people not to have their own spaces(like golf courses, lounges, etc) and demand that they allow admittance are applauded. When those same people(progressives) then turn
Re: define healthy (Score:5, Insightful)
it's when those perpetual whiners want to invade those spaces that are mine and take them away.
So why are you whining all over this thread then, given that this is about creating a whole new place? The founders of the new place haven't taken anything away from you yet you whinge and throw insults like you're 5.
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It's 2016 and people have different opinions from mine? Lunacy!
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I just signed up for an invite. Can't wait to troll them hard.
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I imagine they'll be about as healthy and positive as Fox News is fair and balanced.
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No dissenting opinions allowed. The biggest progressive echo chamber imaginable, where no one is allowes to question this ideology. And no one is allowed to say anything remotely controversial or offensive because it might "trigger" someone's negative feelings and cause untold "psychological" damage.
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No dissenting opinions allowed. The biggest progressive echo chamber imaginable, where no one is allowes to question this ideology. And no one is allowed to say anything remotely controversial or offensive because it might "trigger" someone's negative feelings and cause untold "psychological" damage.
Oh... so basically /.
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..only a slight amount of bias there buddy.. Of course, imzy would welcome such commentary openly. However, if you were to post
"I thought the bernie sanders worshiping marxist tax'n'spend omg everyone's a victim of straight white men sjw tards were pretty popular here?" on imzy, you'd probably be banned pretty quickly.
In contrast, slashdot allows much more open discussion which places it several cuts above most other sites and far above moronic hugboxes like imzy.
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That's a good summary!
Stupid justice whiners are ignorant of a few things:
* Why are they disrespectful to everyone who doesn't kowtow to their ideology?
* Why are they so insecure that someone has a different opinion?
* ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away,
* When opinions are so homogenized that it leads to cargo cult science you effectively have created reverse discrimination -- the very definition of intolerance,
* How the fuck is incorrect information supposed to be corrected with factual information,
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oh, and positive, too.
This is both healthy and positive. A good subset of the idiots will leave Reddit and go there.
The downside is that they'll all eventually say something that offends somebody and so the end-game is that all the users are banned.
Show me any person who isn't perceived as an asshole at least 1% of the time, even inadvertently.
Re:define healthy (Score:5, Interesting)
Create different profiles to fit your various identities, or even participate anonymously, all easily under one account.
Twitter (Score:2)
So it'll be like Twitter [slashdot.org] from back before Twitter was a microblog host.
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This is what's known as the "I'm not mad, I'm actually laughing" defense. It never works, but don't tell them.
Is it for children ? (Score:5, Funny)
I clicked the link and visited the site. It looks like it was designed for Barney fans.
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Strange. Smells like Teletubbies to me.
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Awesome (Score:5, Interesting)
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Because porn is better when it has been uuencoded, just like records sound better than CDs.
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Usenet works when people are well behaved. We used it at school and it worked great, because our newsgroups were private and you don't want to be too much of an asshole because you are communicating with the same people you meet IRL on a regular basis.
On the greater internet, it is spamfest. Usenet got a surge in popularity because of alt.binaries were efficient filesharing platforms but real public newsgroups are pretty much dead.
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What makes it doxing is that it's done maliciously, to harass the victim. If it's so easy to get that information, why bother posting it? It's done to organise harassment.
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Real harassment is illegal, which is the original point. Simply republishing public information is only harassment in your mind.
Frankly I think it is stupid to even be annoyed by doxing, and YES I have been "doxxed" in the past, some moron thought he was being clever by publishing my name and address on a photography forum I frequented - even though I already posted under my full name and said where I lived in my profile. In response, I gave him my phone number and said if he had an issue he should call.
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Would "It's OK to provide basic contact info for someone if you provide corresponding contact info for yourself" be a workable rule? That should allow white hat doxing, which is done without intent to harass.
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Simply republishing public information is only harassment in your mind.
No, that can be a crime too. For example, requesting public information on a building with the intent to rob it is conspiracy. Giving someone's home address, even if it is public information e.g. on an electoral register, to someone who you know intends to harm them makes you an accessory to any crimes they commit. Intent matters in the eyes of the law.
If people start sending you threats or making threatening calls, that is great - then you can take real legal action against them
True, but look at it from a commercial perspective. If your web site has a reputation for patrons having to go to the police or take civil legal action becau
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FTFY.
Sound like a pretty bad idea to me at first glance.
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That's because it is a bad idea. Just look at reddit and the number of times moderators have been caught taking bribes, payoffs, or outright payments from companies or other people to press or repress particular opinions. Nothing kills a community faster then shit like that.
Only good news!! (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Only good news!! (Score:4, Funny)
Reminds me of a newspaper startup back in the 80's(?) called Good News, that only printed uplifting and cheerful stories. Needless to say that experiment didn't last long.
Both editions are now collector's items.
Too Many Assholes For This To Work (Score:2)
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Can someone from that site answer a quick question (Score:3, Funny)
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If you have to ask you will never know. But your credit card will be charged regardless. Welcome to the new age of safe places.
Oh HELL no (Score:5, Interesting)
I went to the page, and my browser immediately started asking me for "permission to send me notifications", ala "in-browser nagging and begging".
Instant turn off. Jesus fucking christ, can't you even wait until someone joins before starting to pester the shit out of them??
Also, alll the stuff about "healthy, positive communities" sounds like codespeak for "SJW's run this place". As if Reddit wasn't already infested with all the "safe space" and "triggering" and "micro-aggression" bullshit, this looks to be built for SJW's from the ground up.
Yeah, umm thanks, but I'll pass on this.
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From your link:
“In these days of political correctness” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.”
The prophet Carlin would be rolling in his grave. Next thing you know, I won't be allowed to make tranny jokes.
Context is everything (Score:2)
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The prophet Carlin would be rolling in his grave. Next thing you know, I won't be allowed to make tranny jokes.
Ron White tells a joke that starts off, "You know what fuckin I hate about trannies?"
The crowd goes silent in shocked horror, and after a beat, he continues,
"The damn things won't shift out of 'Park' unless you have your fuckin' foot on the brake."
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The problem with your link is that Political Correctness does not equate to "treating people with respect".
The people who are "politically correct" usually have a separate groups of people for whom they show utter disdain. All is does is shift WHO they make fun of, and ramps up the level of cruelty...
Meanwhile even the people who "political correctness" are meant to help, it does a disservice to - pretending like all people are equal damages those who are truly not in the end.
Indeed the real goal SHOULD be
I'm not seeing it (Score:2)
You're words are hollow. What I hear is the same technique Karl Rove pioneered. I'm not even sure I'm aware you're doing it. It's a simple tec
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You can't even mention the acronym SJW without a gaggle of the crybabies coming out of the woodwork to call you a meanie it seems.
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You can't even mention the acronym SJW without a gaggle of the crybabies coming out of the woodwork to call you a meanie it seems.
Aaah typical stuff from those who like to say "SJW", which is essentially know as "making shit up".
If other's opinions bother you so much, there's a great new site you can go to - a "safe space" - where I'm sure you won't be bothered by people "making shit up". RTFA.
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by serviscope_minor (Score:0, Troll)
I think your post has been analyzed and rated appropriately.
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Websites are trying to push notifications on us before we even have a chance to view their contents, how is that not abusive? I wouldn't mind seeing this kind of thing is this way on my third visit or so within a week, but otherwise it's just assuming too much.
Imagine eating at a restaurant for the first time and before you even have the chance to order something, the waiter picks up your wallet and half-way through putting a "member club" card into it he asks you "do you want to be a member?".
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Your pseudonym is appropriate, JustAnotherOldGuy. . . . It's called technology advancement.
"Shut the fuck up, N00b. I've bought and abandoned more technology that you can shake your tiny micro-dick at."
What is harrassment? (Score:3, Insightful)
As we've learned from the new Social Justice Warriors movement, many people feel "harassed" just by comments or actions that aren't intended to be harassing... hell, I've probably scared at least three people to their safe place just by this post alone.
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Care to answer your own question? Presumably you think there is some limit to what one person can do to another.
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Care to answer your own question? Presumably you think there is some limit to what one person can do to another.
Nope, it's on the internet so it doesn't count. You see it's just words which are harmless because mere speech has no effect so it's not important. But not allowing it is censorship because speech is so important!
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As we've learned from the new Social Justice Warriors movement, many people feel "harassed" just by comments or actions that aren't intended to be harassing... hell, I've probably scared at least three people to their safe place just by this post alone.
After reading the comments I think a lot of people here need someone to build them a safe place to protect them from Social Justice Warriors.
Re:What is harrassment? (Score:4, Insightful)
Of course you don't have know that you're harassing someone to harass them.
The legal definition of harassment is repeated undesired contact with the intent to cause (psychological) trauma. If you are told to stop calling them, and you don't, then you know you're "harassing".
However, the claims of psychological trauma are so over inflated today that SJWs say they get PTSD from Twitter -- Even though Twitter has a block function, and the service must be interacted with by the user via their choice. It's not like people can tweet @you unless you actually go to twitter, unlike a phone where anyone in the world can call and cause your phone to ring repeatedly. The problem is that "harassment" is claimed over things that you can close your eyes to make disappear. Some claim that certain people are very sensitive and get their PTSD "triggered" by certain phrases they read. If they know they are this psychologically damaged and yet willfully engage in risky behavior, such as reading a book, then they should seek help, not punishments for those who wrote words that offended them.
Imagine if history teachers had to provide "trigger warnings" and allow black students not to have to learn about slavery because it triggers the manifestation of their ancestral PTSD in their own minds. This actually is a thing. Some professors are catching flack for refusing to put trigger warnings on history... These type of "hypersensitive" people are mentally ill, and should be in an asylum (provided they're not faking for elevated victim status, which they are). Should we make the entire world a padded cell just because there are a few crazies about? If reading a book could "trigger" you, then you should know better than to be on Twitter or the Internet in general -- It's not the author's fault.
No one is responsible for what goes on in your head but you. If you can't be held responsible for the thoughts you think, then how can you hold anyone else responsible? If you wish to punish others for your own actions, such as thinking certain things, then you are legitimately insane, IMO.
How does their moderation work? (Score:2)
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then it'll end up the same as Digg and Reddit.
So, it'll end up worth 500 thougand sollars and 4 billion? At the same time?
I don't get reddit (Score:4, Insightful)
it looks like someone used craigslist css to for a forum and tried to make it seems like Usenet?
I wish them luck, but... (Score:2)
The term "safe space" makes me think of a place that's moderated for ideas certain people don't agree with, as opposed for just trolls and harassment. The people who make a website interesting are the ones who are willing to have real discussions, and you aren't going to draw those people in by censoring ideas. The only way for a popular "safe space" to form on the web is if it starts out as an open discussion board, becomes successful, and then the "safe space" people come in and demand that it be made s
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There is such a thing as the quality of a debate, whereby people are expected to make their points with civility. If that's what's meant by a "safe" version of reddit, then I can see the merit. For example, I no longer look to Slashdot for tech discussion, because the comments appear to be dominated by uninformed and vitriolic opinion. (Next time there's a linux-related story, compare the discussion on slashdot with, for example, lwn.net.) Browsing the comments on stories like this is more of a guilty pleas
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The term "safe space" makes me think of a place that's moderated for ideas certain people don't agree with,
That is exactly what it is.
"Safe" in their context means "nothing that might upset them, or make them think, or be faced with an unpopular opinion or viewpoint."
It already exists (Score:2)
The unhealthy balances the healthy (Score:2)
Location, Location, Location (Score:2)
"wants to build a better Reddit, one that focuses on 'healthy, positive communities,"
So he's building a retirement community then...
Certainly nothing on the internet.
I remember (Score:3)
I remember when disgruntled guys creating new USENET groups didn't end up getting $3 million for their trouble.
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It looks to me just to be "take what is killing reddit and amplify it", not an attempt to build a healthy reddit.
Re:I'm all for it, but.. (Score:4, Funny)
I give him points for thinking outside the box and attempting to monetize 'the crazy'. If he can draw them all, the rest of the web will thank him.
Think about the % that 'gofundme' and other spamhandling/begging web sites get, just for being a virtual highway on-ramp. This is that, plus mod bombing for pennies/downmod. All he needs to do is implement 'peak mod pricing', for when the pissing contests get heavy and he's richer than the pope.
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I don't think they want to amplify the circle-jerk: this reads much more like "the circle-jerk is too intense for some delicate people, lets slow it down folks, take our time and move more softly..."
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We must destroy reddit in order to save it.
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and how REAL women are all superobese.
Right, because that's a thing.
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OK, so which one of those has been shopped to look "superobese"?
Or are you just one of those people who loves posting irrelevant links for giggles?
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It's not okay to be 250 lbs and 5'4" unless you're a gorilla.
I guess they would say that a doctor who points out how unhealthy it is would be accused of fat-shaming too. We are in an obesity epidemic. Fat-shaming is needed, just as in the past shaming smokers worked. Ditto for shaming racists. Obesity is ugly and smelly and a huge health risk. If fat-shaming is what it takes, I for one welcome our fat-shaming overlords.
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A social media platform that excludes the hate machine element? ....
That's a pretty fancy way of saying "the people who disagree with me, and I can't handle competing opinions or even facts at times." Just remember that there's an entire group of people out there that believe facts are harassment, if you need shining examples all you need to do is go look at the batshit crazy on tumblr. But that constructive criticism? Those same batshit crazy people, especially those that the media like to parrot will simply believe that criticism is harassment, or sexist, or racist or simply misogyny. They don't want facts, opinions that are contrary to their feelings.
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There is a part of me that hopes his site is successful and that all of the people who cannot handle criticism leave Reddit and go there.
There is another part of me that is fearful of the above situation resulting in reddit-as-the-new-4chan.
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tits or gtfo, newfag!
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Is there really no way to differentiate genuine trolling from people who simply disagree?
I'm starting to see why the -1 troll mod is abused so much.
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One person's perception of hate is another person's truth.
You would not believe how many people who label themselves as transgender get really unhinged when transsexuals say male cross-dressers don't belong in women's washrooms. F*ck the LGBT political correctness BS.
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OK, then. I'll just put you down as a "No" on the "healthy and positive communities" thing. Thank you for your feedback.
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Cash for mods with true believers on both sides. If it works, he'll be rich.
But I doubt it will get the dual critical masses required to really monetize 'the crazy'.
It's a good cynical try, I especially like the fake idealism, all while setting them up. How much money do you think you could extract from (for example) an obsessive Wikipedia article 'owner' per year? (Answer: a lot) The trick will be getting the emotional commitment from SJWs, then letting them find something to fight about, which shoul
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I don't think it's lazy, It's just that many of the good names are being squated on.
Squatters are a huge problem on the internet and should have been put a stop to in the beginning.
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What does "© 2016" mean? Another website that can't even use UTF-8 properly?