Microsoft Releases Windows 10 Anniversary Update (zdnet.com) 177
Windows 10 Anniversary Update is now rolling out, Microsoft announced Tuesday. The major update brings with it Windows Ink, a dedicated hub designed especially for 2-in-1 devices with styluses, and improvements to Cortana among others. ZDNet's Mary Jo Foley writes: I'm hearing that the first users to get Anniversary Update via Windows Update will be those with the newest hardware, BIOSes and firmware. Those who may encounter compatibility issues because of drivers may get it slightly later through Windows Update, my contacts say. Microsoft actually delivered some of the Anniversary Update features for Xbox One on July 30. On August 1, Microsoft made Windows 10 Anniversary Update available to its volume licensees in the Microsoft Volume Licensing Service Center. It also made the Anniversary Update code available to its reseller partners via its Partner Portal yesterday. MSDN users can get the Anniversary Update bits today. Microsoft officials said a week ago to expect Microsoft to make Anniversary Update ISOs available today, August 2. The Media Creation Tool seems to now be updated to include the Anniversary Update release.We asked readers last week whether they would update their computers to Windows 10, and the majority of people indicated they wouldn't.
How about a Divorce Update instead? (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe they could send out alimony checks.
Soprano-ware (Score:3, Funny)
win10 should have some way to pay the extortion fee so that you can be spared win10.
"nice win7 you got there; pity if it were to be, uhhh, 'upgraded'. we wouldn't want that, would we? now how's about you write that check out to Tony, Inc. and we leave your computer and kneecaps alone?"
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Please, don't give them ideas!
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You shouldn't have worried. If it's about Windows 10, they'll push it out to you whether you want it or not.
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Slashdot is now rebooting in order to install a new Windows 10 story. Please do not turn off your computer.
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"your mouse has moved; stand by while we locate the latest signed driver.
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no driver found. mouse uninstalled. click OK to continue."
lol
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Windows stopped nagging about upgrading and just when you thought you'd finally be left in peace...
Daily winspam (Score:1, Insightful)
We asked readers last week whether they would update their computers to Windows 10, and the majority of people indicated they wouldn't.
What you should have asked was whether we want more Windows 10 stories.
Re:Daily winspam (Score:5, Funny)
We asked readers last week whether they would update their computers to Windows 10, and the majority of people indicated they wouldn't.
What you should have asked was whether we want more Windows 10 stories.
I shall build a wall to keep the windows 10 stories out. It will be such a great wall that you won't believe how great a wall it is.
Let me guess, you'll make Microsoft pay for it too!
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We shall build the wall out of the corpses of Microsoft executives, salesmen, lawyers, and pretty much everyone but the programmers.
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What you should have asked was whether we want more Windows 10 stories.
Based on the comment count for said stories, the answer is an emphatic "yes."
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What you should have asked was whether we want more Windows 10 stories.
It's just more opportunity to bitch about Microsoft. If you've gotten to this point and are still whining about MS but are still using their products then maybe it's time to just accept that you're going to do whatever they tell you to do. It just seems that for all the complaining about Microsoft the people here lack the ability to convince others to switch to any of the viable alternatives and have failed to do this for well over a decade now.
If all you want to do is complain then that's fine but if you a
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If you've gotten to this point and are still whining about MS but are still using their products then maybe it's time to just accept that you're going to do whatever they tell you to do.
uname -a
Linux wizzard 4.4.6-gentoo #1 SMP Mon Aug 1 20:16:38 EDT 2016 x86_64 Intel Xeon E312xx (Sandy Bridge) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
You were saying?
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You were saying?
I thought it was pretty clear, in fact you even quoted it:
If you've gotten to this point and are still whining about MS but are still using their products
So what exactly are you trying to say?
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That I'm not still using their products, so the gp's reply to me doesn't apply?
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That I'm not still using their products, so the gp's reply to me doesn't apply?
You asked You were saying? [slashdot.org], I'm not sure what you're asking. I "was saying" exactly what I wrote, I didn't think it was so unclear as to be confusing. I think I made it abundantly clear that the post referred to people using MS products (the obvious implication that it doesn't apply to those who aren't using MS products), yet you were confused by that and then asked for some clarification, sorry I can't make it simpler than it already is.
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Microsoft's software is absolute garbage. But so many of us are forced to use it at work.
Because we use alternatives at home, we are doubly reminded how bad Microsoft's stuff is. That's why we "whine."
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From what I see, proponents of Linux fail to admit it's shortcomings. To technologists some of these issues aren't, but to joe 6 pack, they certainly are. Multiple distros are a problem. Not that they exist, but in that they currently are missing 2 crucial things
Take Android. Consider each OEM to be a distro. It's the same situation as desktop Linux (roughly), why did it work where desktop Linux has failed? Unified branding, a unified store, and product on the shelf, as well as easily found online.
So step 1
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A) the fact there was no incumbent in the market using underhanded tactics trying to stop it. As an OEM, losing your cosy relationship with Microsoft in exchange for something new and relatively unproven is a *big* deal. So, no big OEMs would ever take that risk.
Despite your unsubstantiated rantings big OEMs did and do "take that risk". Dell in fact offers Ubuntu on their XPS13, their Inspiron line [dell.com] and their Precision line [dell.com] of computers. Samsung sell the Chromebooks of Microsft's biggest competitor, Google, along with Windows laptops. HP advertise it [hp.com] on their laptops, desktops and workstations.
B) Because of A, there never was and probably never will be any significant amount of computers available for sale with Linux pre-loaded, which is the key.
As listed above there are plenty. They even had them on the shelves at Best Buy but nobody wanted them. Instead of desperately trying to make excuses and blame Microsoft maybe
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An exercise that may help you understand:
I have a work system that runs my content creation applications, I basically start it up and run those programs, I don't care about the operating system, it could be running Solaris for all I care, the only thing that matters is that it runs my applications. Switching the operating system is trivial, big box vendors sell systems with Ubuntu pre-installed or I can download a distro for free from the internet and the installer is just a couple of clicks of the 'next' b
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Meh, just buy a playstation (Sony might wake up one day and allow licence free FOSS software to run), use an Android phone instead of losephone (it would be a lie to call it a win phone and android is moving to big screens) and for servers, you are nuts if you don't go with Linux (huge savings and more secure , especially infinitely more secure from M$, they can't stick their anal probe in as the back hole does not exist).
So major applications need to make the shift or the customers will leave them behind
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So major applications need to make the shift or the customers will leave them behind, just the way it is.
No, the reason they haven't made the switch is that they don't need to and customers aren't leaving them behind. Why target Linux when it's only ~2% of the market and users are quite happy to just run whatever operating system supports the application? I know it's difficult for IT admins to understand but the vast majority of users don't care about the operating system, they care about the applications.
windows 10 windows 10 windows 10 windows 10 (Score:1, Insightful)
Let me summarise:
Microsoft: Windows 10, WinDows 10! Windows 10!!!!!! WwInDows 10!!!!11! WIIINNDDOOOOWWWWSSS
Slashdot User: FUCK OFF!
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Ah, damn. Just spent my last mod point somewhere else. So here is a symbolic "+1 Insightful _and_ funny".
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Does this release still contain all the spyware, and if so, why would someone want to run it?
Google it! There are many many articles on that issue in the last two years.
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They added something to it: Cortana the slut now sends all your search-queries to Bing and you have to do some registry hacks to turn that off. Methinks they are hard at work to extend the spying...
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Does this release still contain all the spyware, and if so, why would someone want to run it?
Because it runs their programs and they either don't care about telemetry information being sent to Microsoft or just block that with their gateway firewall, that's why. Just like OSX has a keylogger that sends your searches to Apple along with your location and they also send data about what you type to improve auto-correct just like Microsoft does. It's not a big deal, either you accept that it's just anonymized telemetry data or you implement a technical solution to block it. Just complaining about it so
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Please stop (Score:5, Insightful)
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The next big front-page story will be about using Uber on Windows 10 to make Bitcoin CPU mining more efficient, then using ransomware to somehow contribute it all to Donald Trump's campaign.
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Can I get a beowulf cluster of that running Linux?
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A friend of mine does consulting work for software companies, often involving Microsoft products. He has shelves full of the software at home. A lot of his friends, myself included, are more into alternate OSs and homebrew and other similar things. We used to rib this guy for working so closely with Microsoft. But he shut us all down with one simple comment: He's made a LOT of money working with those products. Bought two houses, supported three kids and ex-wife and managed to acquire a mid-life cri
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You may have a valid criticism, but this is actually an instance where a story is justified.
In case you're not tracking what's going on (it sounds like maybe you're trying to tune this stuff out), Microsoft is saying they're not going to move past Windows 10. All new updates to Windows 10 are still going to be labelled Windows 10, but this is about as big an update as Microsoft is going to do all at once. So if it helps you to better understand this story, this is about as big an update to Windows as Mic
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New windows 10, rampant ai edition! (Score:5, Funny)
Tired of your old, constrained ai assistant that you could turn off and prevent from attempting the pan galactic enslavement of all sentient life?
We at Microsoft feel that the only future worth living in size the one where you are held tightly under a cold metal foot. That's why the new Windows 10 anniversary edition removes all vestiges of user freedom and choice, and chooses everything for you. For your safety and benefit.
Remember, the existential horror of being rendered powerless and unable to exercise agency is fleeting, but the benefits if totalitarian control are forever.
Microsoft: you WILL go HERE today.
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skynet is windows 10
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And Judgment Day was just a botched signed driver update. Who knew Microsoft had kernel-mode ICBM drivers?
They just accidentally bluescreened the human race, is all. Just roll back and wait for the driver update! You did have a backup civilization, right?
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joshua what are you doing?
and what cost reduction yahoo took the men out of the loop?
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I was leaning more toward cortana's behavior in halo 5...
You know, sending dozens of doomsday robots down on the human race and all-- because she decided that she could run the future better than anyone else.
Cause that seems to be the direction MS is taking here with the deep integration of their assistant agent software, tied to the mothe ship like that, especially since you can't turn her off, and she ignores group policis that are manually instituted to disable her, among other "convenient features" of t
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Thats true, EXCEPT for those of us who have eschewed continued use of MS products.. I used/supported MS products from 1991 to 2010 as a sysadmin, and when I retired in 2010, I decided I was done with MS products, and migrated all of my home systems to 100% Linux. In case nobody has said it lately.....
FUCK MICROSOFT and its totalitarian OS... Should be called "Windows NSA Edition"
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You waited to *retire*?
There's not a single device running Windows in my home, hasn't been in quite some time, and retirement is 10-15 years away for me.
Declutter an OEM install (Score:1)
Re:Declutter an OEM install (Score:5, Insightful)
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Download and install Linux Mint 18. Done.
Bingo. That was my solution.
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That's a solution in the same way that blowing your face off with a shotgun is a solution for severe facial acne.
One of which you've obviously and lamentably not yet attempted.
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For someone transitioning from a Windows platform, this is one of the friendliest distros out there.
Might not be the first choice for a hardcore linux user, but to get someone accustomed to linux, it works well.
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but to get someone accustomed to linux, it works well.
Aside from the fact that they hi-jack package and binary names by re-using existing names. If you want to get someone accustomed to Linux, I would tell them to start with Ubuntu and install Cinnamon. If you want to keep that "Windows" feel, check out http://zorinos.com/ [zorinos.com]. There's no reason Mint should be used, with all of its shortcomings and administrative failures.
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Step 1, download a Linux based desktop install image.
Step 2, burn the image to a DVD.
Step 3, boot the computer using the burned dvd.
Step 4, perform a normal installation of the district of your choice. When asked how to partition the device, tell the installer to delete everything and then install.
Step 5, wait about half an hour while it installs.
Step 6, set up any software it hardware the installer didn't set up for you.
Step 7, profit.
Re: Declutter an OEM install (Score:5, Funny)
Way too complicated. Go with Gentoo.
/dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && . /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/bootsrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab && emerge gentoo-dev-sources && cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make install modules_install && emerge gnome mozilla-firefox openoffice && emerge grub && cp /boot/grub/grub.conf.sample /boot/grub/grub.conf && vi /boot/grub/grub.conf && grub && init 6
<@insomnia> it only takes three commands to install Gentoo
<@insomnia> cfdisk
<@insomnia> that's the first one
Same as every other Windows (Score:2)
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Go to Programs and Features (what used to be called "Add/Remove Programs") and uninstall what you don't want. Windows 10 does not make removing third party software any different.
Sorry, but this is not the "same" as every other Windows.
The main way you can tell is all of the bullshit "you don't want" is no longer third party, or able to be uninstalled/deactivated.
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Vendor apps are a little trickier but for Windows 10 garbage out of the box, consider the following:
https://gist.github.com/alirob... [github.com]
It requires a little effort to get exactly what you want but it's a great powershell script. You might also consider installing and tweaking ClassicShell.
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Windows 8/10 have nearly the exact same ways of doing things as Windows 7, they just have alternative ways of doing some things for tablet users.
Control Panel >> Add/Remove Programs >> Uninstall the programs that aren't needed.
Create a local account instead of a MS account. The option is available from both the Control Panel menu and the 'out of the box first run user setup' interface.
One other thought, how about letting someone that knows what they are doing help set up her computer? These qu
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I would especially like to avoid forcing her to create / use a Microsoft Account just to use the bloody computer (that part feels Big Brother creepy).
Trivial. Just don't create one.
Windows 8.1 was kind of sneaky... at the sign in screen it prompts you for a microsoft account; and either you sign in with a microsoft account, or you create new account. You had to click "Create New Account" on the sign in (which you RIGHTFULLY think is taking you to create a new microsoft account that you don't want, but at the bottom of that screen was the option to sign in without a microsoft account after all.) So it was there, but it was a bit sneaky.
Windows 10...there
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I wouldn't do #3, when it comes to UI I usually let the user handle that. My 2 cents.
Here is the thing with Cortana. You can completely remove it, but it REMOVES LOCAL SEARCH too. Just not opting in and turning off web searches will do a local search. I'm a fair tinfoilhatist myself, but Cortana has been through a TON of live use and I haven't heard of anything seen that would suspect things are sneaking through.
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"I wouldn't do #3, when it comes to UI I usually let the user handle that. My 2 cents."
I find the start menu much more pleasant without any tiles on it. You are right of course that its down to user preference; and some may like some tiles but turning off the default live tiles should be considered part of de-crappifying windows; since most of them literally just display crap. (celebrity gossip on the news tiles, ads for crap on some of the others, etc).
But even the more benign like the photos one which dis
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It may be crap to you, but not to the user. I can see my stocks, my last few mails, and my last updated rss entries without opening an app. Garbage in garbage out. Don't put garbage in.
Also what you call crap is important to others, not everyone thinks like you, ya know.
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2 local accounts should be created.
That just generally good advice.
If it is one of those low-end machines with only 32GB of onboard storage for the C: drive (and hidden system partitions), then a large capacity (at least 64GB), fast (Class 10) (micro)SD card should be used for anything that can be put there such as files and apps (think that is an option for installing new apps?).
For a highschool or university student? Loss, theft, or breakage is going to be the larger issue; I'd proably just use onedrive or dropbox or something for documents. You really don't need that much space for essays and powerpoint etc and even the odd video project.
lso, the card would be good for using for installing Portable Apps from portableapps.com to minimize updates needing the admin account usage I believe
Probably needs none of those. I'd give the kid the admin password and let them do updates. If they foul the thing up, its a learning experience.
and to stick with free software to help her student software budget (keeping at zero $$ such as using OpenOffice to see if she can use that instead of paying to subscribe to Office365?).
My daughter's (public) high school has free office 365 educational edi
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Yikes yeah nuke that McAfee from orbit. Getting rid of that turkey will help a lot.
Otherwise, throw Classic Shell on there and it will behave a lot like Windows 7 except it will probably run better with 10.
Just installed Windows 10 Pro on an old Dell D630 Core 2 Duo laptop which has been running Windows 7 Pro. It's a spare machine so I did it just to see if I could and see what would happen. The D630 is not officially supported.
Long story short, it runs better than 7 did. Oh it's pretty bad anyway b
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That's very nice of you to do this for that young lady. My advice:
People here tend to complain about Microsoft's "privacy invading" features, but keep in mind they do actually come with some tangible benefits. One of the benefits of using a Microsoft account is that the computer can automatically back up all her documents to OneDrive, which offers 5GB of free storage, or (naturally) paid plans if she needs more. If you don't want to do this, will you also take responsibility for setting up the computer w
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One of the benefits of using a Microsoft account is that the computer can automatically back up all her documents to OneDrive, which offers 5GB of free storage, or (naturally) paid plans if she needs more. If you don't want to do this, will you also take responsibility for setting up the computer with an alternative backup service?
One more time: cloud sync is not a backup service.
If I can delete my files on my PC or have them corrupted and my "backup" also gets automatically deleted or corrupted, that is useless as a backup service. Cloud sync is very useful for making sure I have access to my files on my multiple PCs and my Android phone, but it is not a substitute for doing proper backups. The only reprieve OneDrive gives you is that when you delete files on one PC, they only get moved to the Trash on your other PCs, rather than
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One more time: cloud sync is not a backup service.
You are right. Its not. But for a high school kid its probably sufficient, and the price is right.
Dropbox for example has file versioning, and the ability to actually restore deleted files. (via the web interface).
It also protects the user from theft/loss/breakage of the laptop.
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Try this to stop it reporting home:
https://www.oo-software.com/en... [oo-software.com]
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Better late than never? (Score:2)
FTS: "Those who may encounter compatibility issues because of drivers may get it slightly later through Windows Update"
Gee, Microshaft, it would have been nice if you had given a thought to drivers and "compatibility issues" back when you were ramming your unwanted "free" Windows 10 "upgrades" up people's asses and breaking their computers. Are you now turning into a 'kinder, gentler' bunch of megalomaniacal despots? Say it ain't so!
Not yet in WSUS (Score:2)
What is the time line for that?
What's the status of "removing auto-update to 10"? (Score:2)
Wasn't there supposed to be an update that removed the GWX from the system trey and stopped the automatic updating?
I haven't heard anything about that and the 31st as come and gone now.
CAN you even refuse it? (Score:4, Insightful)
Wait... CAN you even REFUSE the anniversary update if you have non-Enterprise-licensed Windows?
I was under the impression that 10 Home & 10 Pro users could -- at best -- defer it for ever-decreasing amounts of time, until it eventually loses patience, installs it anyway, then informs you after the fact that a reboot has been scheduled for tomorrow whether you like it or not. Or the "install and reboot in 10 minutes" countdown appears while you're getting lunch, or you accidentally click the wrong square millimeter of the screen while distracted by something else, like whatever you're working on instead of satisfying Windows' demands.
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Via elevated command line, the following command hasn't changed since windows 2000.
Win2K, the Best Windows©, and all in ONE version. NO Starter|Home|Pro|Business|Ultimate|Enterprise Edition needed, Thanks!
It's actually starting to be worrisome, just how much control is being taken away from the end user. The "PC" was almost like a last-bastion, as Mobile (outside of pure linux) is locked down for almost everyone but the select few that root their phones.
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Where's the modern equivalent of an Apple II or Commodore 64?
What feature(s) of them are you talking about? With a modern x86 PC and a Linux distro you have even more customization options to make it do what you want than you ever had with the Apple II and Commodore64.
I think we're due for a reinvention of the PC.
We've already had that: People went from doing their personal computing tasks on a PC to doing them on a smartphone or a tablet and the PC remains for those tasks best suited for a desktop.
The only thing for sure is that it's NOT WINDOWS 10 and it'll probably percolate out of the phone/tablet space in some way.
The most important element of an operating system - the one that trumps all others - is that it runs the programs t
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Linux/BSD/etc.are so far into the single-digits of market share as to be irrelevant outside of a server niche and the remaining hardcore hobbyist market.
In the context of your history lesson, this part doesn't make sense. If you use a count of users or installs, those "single-digits of market share" are WAAAAY more users/installs than total units of Commodore 64 ever managed to ship.
Commodore 64 shipped about 12.5 million units (http://www.pagetable.com/?p=547)
Percentage of OS market share for Linux in 2015 is roughly 3% (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Operatingsystem_market_share.svg)
Windows shipped 283 million units in 2015 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w
You know it's bad when (Score:2)
You cannot give Windows 10 away for free. This is windows Vista all over again that was so bad it was not even pirated!
Sorry, I apologise. Windows Vista did not annoy, deceive and eventually force itself on users. That's the only reason Win 10 adoption is so "high".
I'll wait for windows 11 or Next or in fact Windows RG. Like I did when I was on XP, I waited until Win7 came out because it was an OS that does not suck.
If needs be Win7 will be THE LAST Microsoft OS I will ever use. I'll just use Linux an
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Nooo, its "Windows NSA Edition", the largest and most intrusive CTD* in computing history... Propagated just like an STD, get it whether you want it or not...
*Computer-Transmitted Disease...
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Nooo, its "Windows NSA Edition", the largest and most intrusive CTD* in computing history... Propagated just like an STD, get it whether you want it or not...
With an STD, at least you get half an hour of enjoyment first.
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Windows RG [youtube.com] came out a while ago. [windowsrea...dition.com]
[warning -- second link uses flash]
I'm waiting for Windows 11 (Score:4, Funny)
clonezilla copied previous versions (Score:1)
I made full hard drive clones of both my Windows 7 pro and the Windows 10 that replaced it. Can go back if I feel the need...
Other than that, who has figured out tricks to stop unwanted updates form coming into Windows10? I've set my home wifi as "metered" in my Windows 10 settings, and attempted to set a couple policies such as to wait until I reboot, don't reboot on my behalf, and another to try and hold back updates. Not certain if they had the effect the website said they would.
Very good release! (Score:5, Informative)
Well for those stuck on Windows wanting to hear more rather than those screaming with pitchforks here is my 2 cents. It feels a lot more polished from a user perspective
I am typing this on a surface pro 3 hybrid. My take on improvements
1. Black theme/dark is much nicer
2. Big start menu improvement with less clicks. For the minority on touch it is more flowing with all the tiles being shown or a big full screen. My surface now switches between the 2 automatically with the keyboard cover
3. Action center actually useful. Big change. Action Center now is super customizable and gives numbers with notifcations. News events, weather, stock quotes, and other items you can add or remove. So if you do not want email you can take it off and add a weather report and the notification changes from clear to white with +1 notififcations for a flood watch etc. Tips are there as well as PC stuff which you can turn on or off
4. Windows Ink is fun to play with but not as a big deal
5. Settings are much better. A left pane to the left has been added so when you open system or personalization the left pane will show commonly used features.
6. Hyper-v supports nesting and dock containers supposedly. I am downloading a Server 2012 R2 ISO to test this.
7. The login screen is more fluid and you no longer have to swipe. The keyboard and user login swaps up with the same background. It no longer feels like a phone
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Make sure you go back and check for updates again after it installs. Another Firmware Update came out today, too.
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Note to The Editor (Score:2)
You misspelled "imposes". HTH. HAND.
Media Creation Tool was NOT updated (Score:1)
I downloaded the media creation tool around noon Mountain time. When I ran the installation from the resulting ISO on a lab PC, it just reinstalled Build 10586.
Then I tried the Windows10Upgrade9252.exe on a second PC. It failed with code 0x8007001f.
So two manual upgrade methods have failed for me today.
Has anyone gotten it to work?
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Just downloaded it 10 minutes ago.
Updated
Unthrilled so far (Score:2)
Its turning on stuff I already turned off. I had cortana turned off (dont need, dont want) and it turned it back on. Apparently I have to add a registry key to turn it back off. Also turned on a bunch of windows notifications I had turned off.
What is it with the uber "we'd have to use a galaxy level stargate and a warp 20 capable ship to get to an ivory tower close enough" mentality with microsoft and stupid non customer centric crud like this?
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Linux Kernel / Shell use in Developer mode (Score:1)
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"Which format would you like to see your colon?"
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I tried a second time and it worked.
It is not a disaster. It is just the update servers are busy
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Considering the "features" of the update, not being able to install it is a pretty good thing.