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Microsoft Starts Testing Windows 10's Next Major Update (theverge.com) 94

A week after releasing Windows 10 Anniversary Update, Microsoft is already ready to unveil new features for its next major update dubbed Redstone 2. The Verge reports: The new update doesn't have any big new features for public testers yet, as Microsoft is in the early stages of making structural improvements to its OneCore shared code of Windows across PCs, tablets, phones, HoloLens, Xbox, and IoT. The first few builds available for testing "may include more bugs and other issues that could be slightly more painful for some people to live" according to Windows software engineer Dona Sarkar. Microsoft has released Windows 10 build 14901, and the company is testing out new notifications within File Explorer to provide tips on what's new in Windows 10. You can opt out of the notifications, and they're just a test for now.
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Microsoft Starts Testing Windows 10's Next Major Update

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  • by gweilo8888 ( 921799 ) on Friday August 12, 2016 @03:50PM (#52693557)
    Microsoftese: "the company is testing out new notifications within File Explorer to provide tips on what's new in Windows 10"

    English: "the company is testing out a new ad delivery system within File Explorer to push upsells on new features added to Windows 10"
    • by Anonymous Coward

      The default file explorer tool in Windows 10, like Windows 7 before it, sucks. There are 3d party tools out there that beat the pants off it. Why can't we have full regular expression searches of files by extension, date created or modified, file type, file contents, or any other file system attribute built in? Is that too much to ask? Instead they offer "advanced query syntax" except it's not all that advanced. Full RegEx support is advanced. Anything less is not worthy of serious computer users.

      • Why can't we have full regular expression searches of files by extension, date created or modified, file type, file contents, or any other file system attribute built in? Is that too much to ask? Instead they offer "advanced query syntax" except it's not all that advanced. Full RegEx support is advanced. Anything less is not worthy of serious computer users.

        Seeing that they've done so well with bash, maybe Microsoft can work on a port of KDE to Windows next. Konqueror/Dolphin have had those very capabilities for 10+ years.

  • by jfdavis668 ( 1414919 ) on Friday August 12, 2016 @03:51PM (#52693563)
    I hear it will be 1 louder.
    • Never... 10 is the last. kind of like OSX/MacOS. But then again this is microsoft, so who knows.
      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Windows 10 is supposedly the "last version", and everything from here-on is an update to it. (When Microsoft realizes that 10 has the rotten stink that "Windows 8" and "Windows Vista" and "Windows Me" have/had.. they'll come up with a different name. But Microsoft is more than a little dense these days, it might take them a year or two to see the light)

        Which is kinda exactly like OSX.. however, as soon as Apple saw Microsoft mimic their 15-year-old version scheme (and number; "X" = "10"), Apple ditched it

    • I was a beta tester of theirs when they were going from 8 to 10. But this time, there's no reason for me to - I'll just take the upgrades whenever they occur
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Never, Microsoft is trying its best at screwing and alienating its customers for short time profits. After few years there will be no MS anymore as it is bought out by some dotcom bubble company.

  • by Thud457 ( 234763 ) on Friday August 12, 2016 @03:52PM (#52693567) Homepage Journal
    Microsoft starts sending burly goons to users' houses to "upgrade" their computers.
  • by Jahoda ( 2715225 ) on Friday August 12, 2016 @03:56PM (#52693593) Homepage
    >> the company is testing out new notifications within File Explorer to provide tips on what's new in Windows 10.

    Honestly, this is a really great step forward in user friendliness, but I really think they can go deeper. What I bet that users in middle america would really respond to is some sort of animated anthropomorphic cartoon folder - let's name him "tabby" - that can pop up every few minutes to offer helpful services from the Azure/Office 365 ecosystem.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 12, 2016 @03:57PM (#52693595)

    And now I woke up with my kidney missing.

  • by Merk42 ( 1906718 ) on Friday August 12, 2016 @04:01PM (#52693615)
    Microsoft? LOL it's bad becuz M$. I didn't read the summary but I'm sure it's about EEE and other things I won't want.
  • Nobody cares (Score:4, Insightful)

    by dargndorp ( 939841 ) on Friday August 12, 2016 @04:03PM (#52693621)

    Microsoft has announced ages ago that Win 10 will be on a perpetual rolling release. There's absolutely no reason to report on the breakfast choices of every junior developer in Redmond.

    tl;dr: This is not news.

    • Especially since they haven't finished releasing Redstone 1 yet (error 0xa0000400 etc.). Lots of people can't install the upgrade and the current feedback from Microsoft is a vague "we're working on it" and to work around the error by downloading a Win 10 ISO, wiping the HDD and doing a clean install. Because apparently updating their own operating system is a task Microsoft hasn't faced before.
    • I dunno, that toastie [instagram.com] she's eating looks mighty delish.
  • by 0100010001010011 ( 652467 ) on Friday August 12, 2016 @04:05PM (#52693627)

    Seriously. Let me pick if I want a Tablet or Windows 2000 Classic or Aero or what ever window manager to run. (I want to run AwesomeWM).

    Upgrade the kernel and all the other core utilities (I like them) and don't force yet another window manager change on me (or my unsuspecting family).

    Congratulations, you can now leave off the WM from the server component.

    • I think that is a great idea.

      Why isn't it the case that new versions of Windows allow you to pick the UI from any previous version of Windows?

      Or at least come with some "retro" themes.

      I still miss Vista's Aero... animated desktop backgrounds were the best!

      • > I still miss Vista's Aero

        My Windows machines look as close to Windows 2000 as I can make them.

  • by BLToday ( 1777712 ) on Friday August 12, 2016 @04:07PM (#52693635)

    I've updated 3 machines of varying capability to the new version, seems OK. No show stopping bug.

    But my friend's older laptop (upgraded from Win7) slowed down so much we had to do a full reset which fixed the problem. We couldn't track down the problem besides maybe an in place upgrade from Win7 caused the issued. BTW, Windows 10 reset works pretty well. Process is similar to macOS full reset just takes about 90 minutes versus 50 minutes.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      You are obviously not aware of the Microsoft definition of "opt out". It is defined as "disable until the next update comes along, then reset to Microsoft preferred setting without informing the user, let alone asking consent. This until Microsoft decides to change the definition of opt-out again".

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Only one bug annoys me on Win 10 Professional that I didn't see on earlier versions of the OS.

    The one that brings business to a standstill. Symptom is: huge update gets pulled down a tiny pipe preventing internet access followed by the OS randomly restarting the PC.

    • by Megol ( 3135005 )

      It is trivial to change what time of day when the system does an update, why not change that before complaining about imaginary bugs?

      • by Anonymous Coward

        windows 10 using every single bit per second your internet connection has, and then some, IS a bug (probably more like an undocumented 'feature' to ensure 'timely delivery of updates as fast as possible'), but it is NOT imaginary.

        if there's a win10 update going on anywhere on your lan, your internet is completely fucked if you don't have uber-speed fiber giving you faster speeds than the local update cdn node can deliver.

        it didn't used to be that way, but microsoft has gotten greedy as fuck in wanting to ma

    • So setup a WSUS server

      • by NotAPK ( 4529127 )

        Hard to do in a small businesses, much like the hassles of needing a domain to control updates.

        Microsoft has left small (5-10 chairs) businesses right in the lurch: not will to put up with the BS in home edition, and unable to justify the cost of Enterprise and a server (plus associated IT costs) to manage it properly.

        I think if your business is below a certain size then they need to offer a major discount on enterprise, along with a free copy of Windows Server to run WSUS and host the domain.

        Win10 Pro was

  • When will they start testing how to fix all the problems in that? I would love to re-install the anniversary update, but it broke my system. VPN software didn't work, HFS drive disappeared. I enjoyed the updates, but the breaks need fixing before you move on to the next version to break new things!
    • Wife's work had Anyconnect VPN stop working and turns out they just needed to update the profile on the anyconnect server gateway to allow in an extra port or two. Now they are at least at able to access file shares on WinX. Too bad it took their IT like 2 weeks to finally figure it out.

      • It took me a few hours to figure out I needed to roll back the update. Works as well as it did the first time!
  • by Chas ( 5144 ) on Friday August 12, 2016 @04:48PM (#52693805) Homepage Journal

    1: All activity on your system will be logged down to the keystroke and sent off to law enforcement for eventual perusal.
    2: Windows will gradually being replacing all third-party apps with Microsoft products in the same field.
    3: All authentication will be moving over to strict degradation porn. To log into your system, you'll need to allow the system to snap a picture of you engaged in some form of depraved sexual act.
    4: Ads and popups and pop-unders will now no longer be browser-only "features". The OS will randomly pop them up, completely stealing focus away from whatever you're doing and won't release focus again until you've spent real money on whatever was advertised. And if Microsoft logs any legal complaints, to either cops or lawyers, they'll delete your whole system and brick the hardware.
    5: You will be required to tie a bank account and at least one credit card to WindowsPay. Otherwise you risk being randomly logged out at 15 second intervals...

  • still beta then?

  • by rossdee ( 243626 )

    Who uses File Explorer anyway?

    I use Directory Opus (and have done sincethe late 80's)
    but there are a ton of good freeware file managers out there.

    and the next PC I buy will be running Windows 7

  • "Microsoft is in the early stages of making structural improvements ..."

    In other words, "adding more telemetry and ads..."

  • Windows 10: They didn't even paint over all of the rust.

  • Yep, Old school. IOS and Android have over 2 billion users and functional stores to buy and sell software.

    Microsoft Windows was the way we used software and compute resources when we were tied to our desks. Times have moved on...

    it is like going to the funeral of the first drug dealer or pimp that you purchased product from....

  • Actually, I saw a demo recently of a true bash shell running natively on Windows 10. I also saw a demo of a full featured Linux OS embedded somehow into Windows 10, kind of like a humunculus. You could install any software from the Ubuntu Linux apt-get cloud via the bash shell. It was able to run any kind of X-based application including Chrome, Firefox, and Eclipse linux applications. Truly, it was pretty cool. I'd love to get rid of my Oracle VirtualBoxes and use Linux natively on Windows 10.

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