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All Windows 10 PCs Will Support HoloLens Next Year (theverge.com) 86

Posted by msmash from the AR-and-VR-push dept.
Tech giants are betting on augmented reality and virtual reality as the "next big thing." However, both of these nascent technologies are seeing a slow adoption rate because a user needs high-end computing power at her disposal to experience most of them. Microsoft believes it has made enough software advancements to offset the hardware requirements. At Intel's annual developers conference, Microsoft's Windows chief Terry Myerson announced a partnership with the chip maker that will make all future Windows 10 PCs able to support mixed reality applications. From a report on The Verge:"All Windows 10 PCs next year will include a holographic shell," Myerson said, the same operating system that runs on the company's HoloLens headset. PCs will work with a head-mounted display, and run all Windows Holographic applications, Myerson said, allowing wearers to interact not just with 3D applications but also 2D apps. Microsoft will enable these apps through a future Windows update and the company's universal Windows app platform.TechCrunch has more details.
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  • At her disposal (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward

    So only women are interested in augmented and virtual reality?

    There is a reason English has the gender neutral word "their" which would be appropriate in this instance.

    • Some dipshit is going to come here and tell you that "their" is only used in the plural. (They're going to be wrong.)

      • Re: At her disposal (Score:2, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Why dost thou you me, do I look plural to thee?

      • Technically it is only supposed to be plural, and about 50 years ago anybody who read what you were writing likely would have been confused. It's only recently that "their" came to both mean "multiple people, possessive" in addition to "single person, unspecified gender, possessive".

        It actually doesn't make any logical sense to write it this way instead of simply using "he" or "his" as the default pronoun, like what many other languages do, and is yet another inconsistency that contributes to the English la

      • Some dipshit is going to come here and tell you that "their" is only used in the plural. (They're going to be wrong.)

        Of course it is used. It is a handy shortcut in conversation but reeks of weakness in anything more formal than a text message. Either pick the gender of your antecedent or make your antecedent plural.

        Some dipshits are going to come here and tell you that "their" is only used in the plural. (They're going to be wrong.)

        FTFY.

    • So only women are interested in augmented and virtual reality?

      There is a reason English has the gender neutral word "their" which would be appropriate in this instance.

      By the rules of Corpspeak, descriptive text like this must contain a precisely equal mix of male and female pronouns. The mix must be randomized, with a male pronoun being required if your presentation contains an example of bad protocol by a user. You want your next call to a meeting to be from HR?

    • Haha I saw that too. SJW bullshit.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    Maybe not with direct support for virtual reality glasses, but still well before ms did this announcement.

  • Not fooled, sorry! (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Windows 10 is a trojan horse and you can paint it up as pretty as you like, but it's still full of used condoms.

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Funny)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @02:19PM (#52714355)
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    • You've gone for funny but hit insightful. Microsoft is including the frigging kitchen sink in Windows 10 without actually creating any features that help productivity, and the kitchen sink has holes in it.

      I mean yeah you integrated a PDF reader into your internet browser. Now how come on your premier product, which is a tablet, I can't draw on that PDF and save it? I mean there's other software to do it, but I understand it was far more important for your tablet to have the ability to connect to a 3D printe

    • " Windows 10 Skynet mobile cloud "

      The good thing about this is there is no chance that will become self-aware.

  • Silliness.... (Score:4, Funny)

    by VAXcat ( 674775 ) on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @02:21PM (#52714375)
    This is silly,. Why would they add features to the PC interface that won't be available on my Windows Phone? If I can't use the same interface on both, I'm just not interested.

  • User authentication (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    How long until Microsoft requires every Windows 10 user to 'install' a Windows-compatible buttplug in your anus before the OS wiill boot? Then instead of just figuratively being up everyone's ass, they'll literally be up everyone's ass, something that I'm sure Satya Nadella has wet dreams about nightly.

    • Re: User authentication (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Gives a completely new meaning to "Please insert the USB dongle and wait for a connection".

    • The viruses and trojans will have a new "attack surface". However, there is hope... "Butt Defender" anti-virus to the rescue!

  • Titanic metaphor here. (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Nevermind the fact that a new update for Win 10 causes 'total freezing' and MS doesn't know how to fix it yet. Nevermind the fact that Win 10 forces updates on you with no option to refuse an update. Nevermind the fact that most (as in more than 50%) of former Windows users will not go anywhere near Win 10 due to the forced updates, removal of plaintext search to force Cortana usage and the high degree of likelihood that Win 10 is literally sending everything you type to MS for permanent storage.

    It's goin

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @02:45PM (#52714597)
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    • Re:Did it occur to them that no one wants them? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by zlives ( 2009072 ) on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @02:56PM (#52714691)

      development takes time, Microsoft development takes time after enough time has passed after a fad fades. just give them time to replace the faded ceo first.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymice ( 1400397 )

      Have you even seen the HoloLens? It's not for fully immersive Virtual Reality, it's for Augmented Reality - overlaying HUDs & such over your normal vision. And not in the shitty not-actually-AR/VR way that the Google Glass was.
      And as it's not full VR, it can forgo all of the physical bulk & high-end GPU requirements, and isn't nearly as susceptible to the "uncanny valley" problem.

      For real day-to-day use, I dare say that the HoloLens is the most interesting thing I've seen yet.

      • Have you even seen the HoloLens?

        Have you? I hear it sucks and the fake youtube videos of what the product is like is basically false advertising that fails to accurately convey its abysmal FOV and equally craptastic 720p resolution.

        and isn't nearly as susceptible to the "uncanny valley" problem.

        What does this even mean? CG to HoloLense looks real when the same content on a flat display or VR creeps people out or otherwise looks fake?

        • Don't forget that the current demo of the HoloLens is for *developers only*. Think of how much the Occulus Rift has improved from the tolerable-for-short-periods DK1 vs the first commercial release. Not that I generally like defending MS, but the ad campaigns reflect what MS hopes to achieve for the final product, not the current prototype. They need to up the FOV and resolution significantly before that device is ready for market ... and when it is it looks like MS is ensuring that there will be plenty

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by rl117 ( 110595 )
        Yep, went to a talk/demo three weeks back. Looked interesting and promising, but in reality I was completely underwhelmed. Didn't help that the speaker was a rabid Microsoft fanatic and spent most of the talk going on about how awesome Microsoft were rather than talking about the technology, but the technology itself is nothing particularly special. And most of the usage scenarios and games they had for it were contrived and useless. They also chose to go with an Intel Atom processor in the unit rather

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Nobody outside of MS wants to use those new features they push, but it did not stop them from tailoring the windows UI for touchscreens on Win8. Never underestimate the arrogance of a executive team.

    • I doubt AR glasses will make you vomit since you will still be able to see most of the real world. However, Hololens has a crappy field of view which they do not seem interested in addressing. The demos they have shown have all been "fake" composites of what you would ideally see if the FOV was huge and if Hololens was also able to show objects darker than the background (which it isn't).

      I don't think they seriously intend Hololens as a consumer product. I think it is all just marketing hype for windows

    • Apparently, someone has no idea what the hell "HoloLens" is, yet felt the need to comment with ignorant snark and is even modded "insightful" for it. Nice.

      For those that have no idea, HoloLens is augmented reality, not virtual reality. You see the real world through the viewfinder, and computer generated imagery is placed into the real world, and is lock-synced perfectly, so that it fools your brain into believing you're really seeing a "hologram" in real space. I've heard it's an amazing experience, for

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        • Well, looks like you're right about this point. [winbeta.org]

          If I'm going to lambast people for appearing to talk out their ass, I can't very well exclude myself, right? Consider me lambasted, and my own snark retracted. Most of the other facts still should stand.

    • The only question worth asking is "is it any good?". I have an Oculus DK II. It was fun for a while but once the novelty wore off my main focus was on the weight, inconvenience, eye strain and nausea. Personally I don't think they're going to take off just yet. We need to wait 25 years.

    • Re:Did it occur to them that no one wants them? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Trogre ( 513942 ) on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @09:56PM (#52717293) Homepage

      Back in the early 90's, Wolfenstein 3D made a lot of people want to vomit too, because it was much more immersive than any *popular* game that came before it. And then people got over it.

      Speaking as someone who actually enjoys 3D movies, partilcularly high frame rate 3D movies where you can actually track moving objects and scene pans, I have no problem wearing glasses if it leads to a more immersive experience.

      Of course, I won't be buying into HoloLens specifically, as I do not purchase Microsoft products.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by rl117 ( 110595 )
        Actually, they didn't get over it, at least in some cases. I can't play a lot of the early 3D games. They make me want to vomit and induce violent headaches with only a few tens of minutes of use. Most newer games don't. And I think it's largely due to differences in the FOV and camera positioning. The original Star Wars: Jedi Knight/Dark Forces were almost unplayable for me, as were a lot of others in this era. I stuck them out and suffered, but only in small doses. JKII/III, Mass Effect, and post r

    • Me. I want that. And a guy I work with, we both want that. You want a better buggy whip, we want cars. You get motion sickness, we get, like, roid rage or something.

      It's so awesome, I don't know how we even liked 2D movies.

      You're stupid and wrong, and history will be on my side. So take a moment and answer your own question. Who wants this? Who doesn't? Anyone sensitive to motion sickness will automatically not get it, so your judgement is flawed.

      Start over. Who wants this, and who doesn't?

  • We've been hearing that it's the next big thing since 1987.

    Yes, we've made great strides in display resolution, rendering speed, reduced weight and power, and wireless communication. But as long as I'm stuck with a V1.0 inner ear, pure VR (as opposed to AR) is pretty much a non-starter.

  • Win 10 performance will suddenly crap out shortly after the massive update. But hey, you should buy a new PC so you can support HoloLens!

  • Just like curved TVs are/were

  • When did you slashdot become the last bastion of gumpy old men who hate change?

    I have not seen an actual discussion on here in months. Everyone is too busy telling everyone else to get off their lawn.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by burhop ( 2883223 )

      Everyone is too busy telling everyone else to get off their lawn.

      Don't worry. WIth Hololens, it will be a virtual lawn that overlays all horizontal surfaces. It will be an environment of bliss like was foreseen revisions ago and recorded in the book of Wiki.

      Just like this but in 3D -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by rl117 ( 110595 )
      There's a difference between "hating change" and being uninterested in over-hyped junk with no practical relevance. And yes, I've been to a demo of the HoloLens and seen it in real life. It was crap and even the rabid fanatic doing the demo couldn't make it work properly during his demo. That's Microsoft software again! Make one that actually works well, as well as actually solving problems I have, and I might start to get interested. But right now, it's nothing more than a toy trying desperately to pr

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