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Windows is the Most Open Platform There is, Says Satya Nadella (zdnet.com) 287

On Tuesday in a conversation with Gartner analysts, Satya Nadella talked about the future of AI, the cloud, Windows, and what his company plans to do with LinkedIn. But the most notable remark from Nadella was when he said this, "Windows is the most open platform there is." ZDNet adds: It came in the context of Nadella talking about Microsoft's mission to unite the three big constituencies in the technology world. "That's the approach we've always taken," said Nadella, "bringing users, IT, and developers together... When you bring them together, that's where the magic happens." He reminded the audience of several thousand technology leaders that Microsoft began by making tools, then it made apps, and now it makes platforms. Or, it buys them.
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  • That's why its so easy to infect a Windows system. Open holes every where you look! ;-)

    • Network World article: Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made. [networkworld.com] Quote: "Buried in the service agreement is permission to poke through everything on your PC."
      • by linear a ( 584575 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:52PM (#53101019)
        Actually, it seems to be pretty effective spyware.
        • Okay, an attempt at a translation:

          Nadella: "Windows is the most open platform there is"

          Translation: Windows is the platform most openly hostile to users.

          I doubt that Nadella is actually CEO of Microsoft. He seems far too socially inept. I'm guessing he was chosen as a kind of front man because he was less obviously annoying than others who were considered.

          I also doubt that the former CEO, Steve Ballmer, was actually CEO. Business Week Magazine called Steve Ballmer "Monkey Boy" [businessinsider.com] on the cover of t
      • Here we go again!!!

      • Ya know what? Lets just ignore the spying for a moment, all the nasty hidden shit that requires 41 pages of switches, GPOs, and reg hacks to get rid of [microsoft.com] not to mention that most of which will ONLY work on Win 10 Enterprise, AKA "the one you have to rent for all eternity", lets just pretend all of that doesn't exist,mmmkay?

        What I want to know is this.....WHAT MORON THOUGHT BSODs NEEDED TO MAKE A COMEBACK!?

        When people came to me to get rid of Windows 8 it was strictly because of the UI and when I showed most of them classic shell? They were happy, but Windows 10? People are coming to me saying "OMFG this thing just keeps crashing GET THIS THING OFF MY PC!!!", I swear I haven't seen so many hangs, crashes, and outright BSODs since Windows 95! I know 90s nostalgia is a thing but I seriously doubt anybody was saying "Ya know what I miss? I miss my PC just throwing a BSOD at random intervals"

        Can we get Bill Gates back PLEASE? They replaced a moron whose idea of running the company was "Hey lets just ape Apple without knowing why people like Apple" with a complete dipshit who thinks moving the company forward is "hey lets just ape Google without knowing why people like Google, oh and lets take out flagship product and make it so fucking buggy and crashy it gives people Windows 3.1 flashbacks, yeah thats the ticket"....Say what you will about Bill Gates, he may have been a douchebag but he was a douchebag that had focus, and he sure as hell didn't put out 3 stinkers in a row!

        • I happen to disagree w/ you here. While you are right that people hated Windows 8 b'cos of the UI, Classic Shell did not fix things like hot corners, or getting the Metro UI out of your face. Windows 10 still had the big icons when you hit the Windows button, but Classic Shell is a better add-on to Windows 10 than it ever was to Windows 8. I have made it look absolutely like Windows 7, and it couldn't be better

          I had my issues w/ Windows 10 when I was working as an insurance agent a year ago. I had an

    • The funny thing is that VAX VMS is the "parent" of the Windows kernel, and many approaches between the systems are very similar [windowsitpro.com] (to the extent that Digital sued Microsoft and won). The ACL permission scheme is the most striking.

      VMS had very good security - the best in the business. It's hard to understand how that went so very wrong for Windows. There has been commentary that Dave Cutler himself practically threw the issue overboard.

      • The funny thing is that VAX VMS is the "parent" of the Windows kernel, and many approaches between the systems are very similar [windowsitpro.com] (to the extent that Digital sued Microsoft and won). The ACL permission scheme is the most striking.

        VMS had very good security - the best in the business. It's hard to understand how that went so very wrong for Windows. There has been commentary that Dave Cutler himself practically threw the issue overboard.

        The best I can figure (and I've been thinking since win-vs-anything began) is that MS made the $ decision to make a change to their OS to accommodate for a large international-sized corporation. That lead to rush, poor debugging and safety testing. Heck, security wasn't a BIG deal back then, it was just localized. That was the proverbial gun. Once changes were introduced to accommodate something someone wanted to make MS more money, there were bugs introduced where some were discovered quickly and other

  • Sigh (Score:5, Funny)

    by MightyMartian ( 840721 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:14PM (#53100527) Journal

    Well yes, if you're willing to just simply invent whole new definitions for words, you can make any claim you want. After all, I'm the strongest human being who ever lived, if you define human being as being a group of which I'm the only member.

    • Re:Sigh (Score:5, Funny)

      by NotInHere ( 3654617 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:24PM (#53100651)

      This post is the first one in this thread.

      • The propagandist at work, attempts to shed decades of not-invented-here, reminiscent of the Reality Distortion Fields of Steve Jobs, and hopes, no prays that the Gartner audience will swallow it whole.

        Such tortious, mind-numbing blather is uncharacteristic of an organization that desires to be judged by its actions, not its lapdog propaganda.

        The secret hope: The Stock Price Soars!!!

    • ... or if you define "strongest" as referring to, oh, odor or something. Hey, this is fun! Let's call this "NewSpeak"!
    • Re:Sigh (Score:5, Interesting)

      by somenickname ( 1270442 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:31PM (#53100733)

      I dunno. "Open" and "porous" are somewhat related words. If he actually meant, "Windows is the most porous platform there is", I would tend to agree with him.

    • Re:Sigh (Score:5, Funny)

      by Holi ( 250190 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:45PM (#53100931)
      His argument is solid. What other PC operating system supports as many hardware devices, has as much software developed for it? Regardless of the OS being open, Windows as a platform has been a very open to anyone who wants to develop for it.
      • Re:Sigh (Score:4, Insightful)

        by fbobraga ( 1612783 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:55PM (#53101037) Homepage
        Think in the server domain: Windows is very inferior to other alternatives in this matter (and by a huge margin)
        • by Hylandr ( 813770 )

          Think in the server domain: Windows is very inferior to other alternatives in this matter (and by a huge margin)

          +1

        • by Holi ( 250190 )
          Name me something that exists on the Linux BSD platforms that does not also exist for the Windows platform? I am not going to get into an argument as to which is better , the discussion is how open is the Windows platform. Anyone can develop software for Windows with no restrictions, up until recently, anyone could develop hardware for Windows with no restrictions. That is by definition an open platform, we are not talking about whether the OS is open as that is a completely different thing.
      • by jedidiah ( 1196 )

        > His argument is solid. What other PC operating system supports as many hardware devices,

        Anything that doesn't choke as soon as you move away from x86.

      • Re:Sigh (Score:5, Insightful)

        by number6x ( 626555 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @01:25PM (#53101367)

        I don't quite follow the point you are trying to make. How much software is written for a platform, or how much hardware the OS supports seems to not be related to how open the OS is. It is kind of like relating how the vast amount of shag carpeting in the Atlanta suburbs in the 1970's is related to the juiciness of peaches shipped from Georgia. Atlanta is in Georgia, but the subjects of the statements are unrelated. Your comment just doesn't really make much sense to me.

        I would also disagree with the hardware support statement. Whenever I plug a new device into a windows machine, windows goes and searches for a driver somewhere on the internet. If it doesn't find one, it asks me to load one. Windows seems to have almost no support for hardware built in and must rely completely on manufacturer's drivers. Windows isn't supporting the printer, the printer manufacturer is writing software (called drivers) that let Windows use the printer. That is hardware manufacturers supporting Windows, not Windows supporting hardware.

        Linux supports a vast amount of hardware right out of the box, and almost never requires a manufacturer's driver.

        It often surprises me at how little hardware Windows supports, out of the box, because the install footprint of Windows is measured in Gigabytes. Most Linux installs take up a few hundred Megabytes and yet include the drivers for tens of thousands of software devices. Just what is Microsoft doing with all that extra code, if Windows can't utilize most hardware until a driver is found, installed and configured?

        In Linux, plug most hardware in and it just works. having to find a driver is a rare event. Yes I know, people are going to comment that they have a 'Lucky Panda collective # 5' (put name of obscure hardware here) touch pad that needed a driver, or that the latest version of some nVidia graphics card that only has beta-drivers for Windows is not supported. But those are the odd occurrences.

        I just re-built a Windows 7 machine for my uncle a few months ago. To get his HP all-in-one printer working I ended up with a download from HP that was over 300 MB! I know the drivers for the printer/scanner/fax/copier were probably just a few thousand kB at most, and that most of the other crap was wasted on HP software that he'll never use. Just for fun I connected my Linux laptop to the printer via the wifi network and my laptop recognized the printer and I could print and scan without loading any additional software. Windows had no support without installing additional driver software. The printer was a brick to Windows without third party drivers, and yet Linux needed absolutely nothing else to use the printer, just plug and play. The printer was fully supported by Linux right out of the box.

        The amount of software developed for Windows is due to the fact that Windows is the dominant OS in the PC market place today. Nothing comes close. Mac has 5%, maybe 6 or 7 % on a good day. Of course developers are going to write for the dominant platform in the marketplace, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with 'openness'. It's like juiciness and shag carpeting again, just completely unrelated.

      • His argument is solid. What other PC operating system supports as many hardware devices, has as much software developed for it? Regardless of the OS being open, Windows as a platform has been a very open to anyone who wants to develop for it.

        Most open though? More open than Linux? Seriously? Not a chance.

        Vendors (hardware, software) supporting Windows is not the same as Windows supporting the vendors. Linux supports more hardware than Windows out of the box. Linux supports all those non-out of the box pieces of hardware just fine, the vendor just has to write the drivers for them.

        Windows is proprietary to Microsoft and doesn't implement an open standards backed API. Linux supports proper open standards, such as POSIX, and provides all the sourc

      • > What other PC operating system supports as many hardware devices

        I don't think that is the standard definition of being "open."

        I think that is the standard definition of being "standard."

        • Yes, but his audience was Gartner analysts. To reach that audience you have to make ridiculous claims. If you tell the truth they will dismiss you as not being innovative enough and stick you into one of the other three quadrants. The analysts themselves have shown over the years that they don't really understand computers and they have to call up their kids to get help when they act up.

  • by sjbe ( 173966 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:14PM (#53100529)

    But the most notable remark from Nadella was when he said this, "Windows is the most open platform there is."

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    • I'm sure it's a tactic that has been used in other fields although I can't name a specific example. You change a definition of something so it's not the same as the meaning anyone else would use and apply some convoluted logic so that the altered definition applies to your product\brand... actually it's probably politicians that do that.

      • Yes, Office Open XML as an example. Suspiciously by the same company now claiming Windows is the most open.

        • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

          by CastrTroy ( 595695 )

          Office Open XML is so open that there's 6000+ pages of documentation explaining how everything works. I don't see 6000 pages explaining how OpenOffice formats work. See how open Microsoft is being here. It must be open if they produced so much documentation.

          • by higuita ( 129722 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @02:36PM (#53102065) Homepage

            you are kidding, right? or just ignorant? or maybe one more shill?

            ODF is a official standard, older than OOXML, simple, consistent and very well documented:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
            https://docs.oasis-open.org/of... [oasis-open.org]

            OOXML on the other hand, was heavily pushed by MS to be a standard and only got approved by using very shady tactics. The format have fields of "closed binary" blobs for "compability" reasons and is not even correctly used by MS office, as their documents fail to pass the standard validation tools. The format is also extremely complex (that is why it needs 6000+ pages spec) and have patents (MS promises to not sue anybody due to this... but this is MS and history show that it can be trusted). Finally, it uses embedded objects in several formats that only exist in windows, instead of already existent standard format objects. Everything to lock up the format to windows and MS office, even if the format is (almost) "open"

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

          • Oh come on now. You expect documentation with anything Open Source? Good Luck with that.

            Fortunately there is probably a man page that will list every single possible flag under the sun... but not a single example of common usage.
      • AT&T sells unlimited data plans. [slashdot.org]

    • by Holi ( 250190 )
      What? Platform? Maybe he understands the word better then you. Windows as a platform has supported more hardware and software then anything else in the PC market.
      • by number6x ( 626555 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @01:35PM (#53101495)

        Windows supports very little hardware.

        Go buy a printer and set it up. Then connect it to your windows machine. Do not allow windows to search for a driver on the internet and do not load the drivers that shipped with the printer.

        Try to configure the printer and print. Windows won't be able to. Windows does not support the hardware.

        The truth is pretty much the exact opposite.The hardware manufacturer supports Windows. The hardware manufacturers write software drivers that allow Windows to use their hardware. The cost of the support is paid for by the hardware manufacturers. The distribution of the support software is paid for by the hardware manufacturers.

        Microsoft supports almost no hardware, hardware supports Microsoft.

        Try the same printer with any major Linux distribution. You will probably just have to plug the printer in and configure it. You won't have to download anything. Linux will already have support for the printer built in. This is true of almost all hardware for Linux. You usually don't even have to do any configuring in most hardware, just plug and play.

        • by higuita ( 129722 )

          just do not buy a cheap "win-printer", those that have as little hardware as possible and totally dependent of software to work...very hard to support without the manufacturer support. You get what you paid for... junk
          If possible, choose printers with postscript support... if not possible, then PCL support. This printers have hardware and work always.

          • Oh god, I forgot about those monstrosities! Do they still make them?

            I would suggest that Windows users never buy a cheap 'Win-Printer' either. Why slowdown your computer doing all the rendering and layout computation on your main CPU when a relatively cheap completely functioning printer could do it faster?

            Win Printer!

    • by in10se ( 472253 )

      He never said "open source", just "open" then went on to say that the platform is open to users, IT, and developers. By that definition, Windows is more open than Linux because no matter how hard you want it to be true, Linux is not open to normal users. The "year of the Linux desktop" still hasn't arrived.

      • The word would be popular not open. It is not even the most popular if you include mobile. But your argument seems to arguing which is more accessible. The word "open" has a very specific meaning here and he is trying to dilute it.

        Linux is more accessible to developers, (no need to buy anything to write drivers), any develop can download it and write for free.
        Linux is more accessible to IT and even users, it is free do download and install for anybody, windows is not. Since linux very popular for servers,

  • Open.... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by tekrat ( 242117 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:16PM (#53100559) Homepage Journal

    I don't think that word means what you think it means...

    Unless I can download the source code to the current version of Windows, make modifications and recompile, it's not really "open"...

    • Not to mention all the "Hidden API's" scattered throughout Windows. That doesn't seem really open to me.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I think Nadella means "transparent" instead of "open" - as in, transparently abusing user privacy and forcing their customers to hate them.

    • Wonder whether he'd put Windows 10 under GPLv3? Followed by a dance w/ RMS
      • I wouldn't be completely surprised if they did open source Windows, but in a way that leaves out key drivers, subsystems, and applications.

        We've entered the age of OPINO: open-source in name only. Android teeters on this boundary, because you've got to install the Google Play spyware to access most applications. (Tip-o-the-hat to the F-droid guys here... they almost make it possible to avoid Google.)

    • You aren't a government agency. What do you expect? ;-)
    • I see you've confused "open" with "open source". Would you like help with that?
    • open system

      n

      (Computer Science) computing an operating system that is not specific to a particular supplier, but conforms to more widely compatible standards

      Bingo! - The key word in that definition is 'compatible' - which is not the case when you're talking about Microsoft Windows.

      More on 'Open Systems' can be found here: Wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]:

      The definition of "open system" can be said to have become more formalized in the 1990s with the emergence of independently administered software standards such as The

  • ... something like "large", you know.... like an open field or an open office plan, or something.

    I'd suggest that somebody sit Nadella down to explain what "open platform" ordinarily means, but I am unfortunately skeptical that somebody who would make a statement like this is likely to ever admit they were wrong.

    • I'd suggest that somebody sit Nadella down to explain what "open platform" ordinarily means...

      I have no doubt whatsoever that he knows exactly what the term means and is trying to twist it to his own purposes. Nadella is not a dumb guy and I think he chose his words very carefully. I'm sure he has some rules-lawyer definition of the term so he can plausibly make that claim knowing full well that it overlaps with the more common meaning of the term.

  • by Dega704 ( 1454673 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:29PM (#53100703)
    "Windows is the most open platform to cyber attacks there is." -Fixed that for you.
  • by geminidomino ( 614729 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:29PM (#53100707) Journal

    Ah, this is obviously some strange usage of the word 'open' that I wasn't previously aware of.

  • by fuzzyfuzzyfungus ( 1223518 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:30PM (#53100711) Journal
    Well, kinda-sorta-ish... If you adopt a definition of 'platform' that somehow excludes Linux and the BSDs, which, while certainly not the best option for all purposes, are trivially more 'open' than any proprietary platform; he might have a more reasonable point.

    Despite some unpleasant attempts in that direction(Windows RT, the exciting new Windows Store, Cortana-integrated-into-all-sorts-of-things, etc.), MS isn't nearly as control-freaky as Apple is; and, while they have gotten worse about it, aren't quite as ruthless about terminating everything that isn't the most current version. They are also arguably less enthusiastic about lock-in than Oracle(because who could be more enthusiastic?); and offer compatibility with a much wider selection of 3rd party stuff than IBM; but that's hardly the same as 'most open'. It is true that they are hardly the least open; but 'most open platform' isn't really something you have a shot at when you ship many of your core products as binaries only under proprietary licenses.
    • by Holi ( 250190 )
      More hardware and software has been developed for Windows then any other OS period, I would think that makes the platform as a whole quite open.
      • Read this [slashdot.org], and come back and tell me if you think Microsoft Windows is really an open system.
  • by evolutionary ( 933064 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:35PM (#53100801)
    Uh, Linux is open. MS is more like, "open season" for hackers since MS leaves so many holes and doorways it's like open season especially with Windows 10.
  • by Rick Schumann ( 4662797 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:43PM (#53100905) Journal
    This sounds about like some authoritarian dictator, after staging a successful military coup and executing everyone in the previous government, claiming what a 'benevolent ruler' he is, that 'his administration will be open and transparent', and 'any citizen may contact me directly at any time with any concerns they may have'. In other words: Unbelievable bullshit. You literally FORCE your spyware-laden 'operating system' on people who were perfectly happy with what they already had, hide spyware in updates to previous versions of your software, use trickery to get Windows 10 onto people's computers, then make wildly inaccurate claims about the 'adoption rate' of your crappy malware/spyware 'operating system' and your 'installed user base'. Then you proceed to systematically annex the Linux world or lock them out of platforms completely, and likely have some sort of plans to destroy Apple, which will be the only other commercial OS available to anyone. Microsoft can go to hell. I'd rather not own a computer anymore than put up with bullshit of this magnitude.
    • by ghoul ( 157158 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:52PM (#53101009)

      Did you just defend Apple vs Microsoft in a discussion about openness of platforms? Great I have this Brooklyn Bridge App I would like to sell you (30% will go to Apple)

      • LOL no, with the possible exception that if Microsoft managed somehow to destroy Apples' OS and became the only commercial desktop OS, everyone would suffer. I do not have and do not want any Apple products either, but there has to be some sort of competition or it's a bad thing for everyone. Personally I'd prefer a free and open-source OS like linux.
  • This windows version is the msot "open" version of all windows, it even leaks your data and stuff you do not want to Redmond.
  • by nightfire-unique ( 253895 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @01:09PM (#53101187)

    I mean, Windows (in the server room) has slowly gotten better over the past 20 years.

    But even today, 20 years after I started my career on Solaris, Linux, HPUX (ugh), and Windows NT, it's a nuisance. The OS will still disobey a direct order due to licensing configuration issues. It is still difficult to manage over a low-latency link. It's still insecure. It still doesn't play nicely with other OSes.

    Clearly these guys are paid to write what they're writing, so whatever. But it is interesting that the same complaints we - who actually do this for a living - had 20 years ago are mostly valid today.

  • Once you start spewing nonsense like that, you really must have lost contact with reality.
  • by phorm ( 591458 )

    Yup. Consumers "open" their wallets, their private information becomes more "open", and then whenever MS decides to change something the customer can bend over and "open" something else too.

  • Microsoft is a business software company. They've utterly failed in consumer and mobile markets (with the exception of game consoles). Most businesses don't care how open or restricted software is. Businesses only care that the software helps them get business done and that the costs are worth the benefits.

    There is no shame in taking billions of business dollars to the bank every quarter.

    Even if Nadella's claim of open-ness was true, Apple/Linux/Android/iOS customers simply wouldn't care.

  • Wow (Score:5, Funny)

    by ilsaloving ( 1534307 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @01:24PM (#53101351)

    Well, Microsoft has a tendency to copy everything Apple does. It was only a matter of time before they started copying Apple's Reality Distortion Field as well.

    • And, as always, they don't make a good enough copy to actually work properly. Steve Jobs managed to convince at least some people that his version of reality was true, no-one believes this.
  • Sounds like a great stand up act, I wonder why I haven't seen him on netflix with any other of his sketches
  • If ever this phrase was true:

    "I want what he is smoking..."

    Because it would be nice to be that far our of reality sometimes.
  • "Windows is the Most Open Platform There is, Says Satya Nadella"

    "What a steaming, smelly pile of pure, unadulterated bullshit!"

    says everybody in the world with a three-figure IQ and knowledge computers/software.

    • "Windows is a steaming, smelly pile of pure, unadulterated bullshit!"

      That was actually their initial tag line.
      Then they tweaked it.
  • I used/supported Windows for close to 20 years, starting back in the Windows 3.11 era. I retired in 2010, and at that time, I decided I was done with MS products.. Now all of my personal systems run one Linux distro or another. Its too much fun to sit back and watch/listen to the daily stories about the bullshit that MS now inflicts on those who, for whatEVER reason, *still* use MS products.. I laugh my ass off daily at these stories about how Windows 10 crashes, forces crap drivers onto systems, and shove

  • It comes on floppies and CDs? That's what old people use, right?

  • by Trailer Trash ( 60756 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @01:54PM (#53101681) Homepage

    I mean, it's open in the same way that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is "Democratic", "People's", and "Republic".

  • Cool! Where can I download the source code?
    What? I can't? I thought you said....

    • by Holi ( 250190 )
      A computer platform is a system that consists of a hardware device and an operating system that an application, program or process runs upon. An example of a computer platform is a desktop computer with Microsoft Windows installed on it. A desktop is a hardware device and Windows is an operating system.

      So when have you ever been unable to run whatever software you want in Windows? Use what ever hardware you want?
      • by JustNiz ( 692889 )

        >> So when have you ever been unable to run whatever software you want in Windows? Use what ever hardware you want?

        Your question is irrelevant and a a non-sequitur to the claim that Windows is the most open platform there is. Open does not mean it can just run everything.
        I want to be able to at least see exactly what IS running on my computer. With Linux not only can I do that, but I can also modify it if I choose. ...and to answer your question, I just had to buy a new printer because Windows 10 does

      • by Ash-Fox ( 726320 )

        when have you ever been unable to run whatever software you want in Windows?

        Yesterday.

        Use what ever hardware you want?

        Today.

      • by JustNiz ( 692889 )

        ...and another point, theres components of Windows 10 on my PC that I can see are using up significant amounts of CPU and network bandwidth for god knows what. I cannot tell what they are doing, and I am not allowed to uninstall them, or even delete their files even though I have so-called admin rights.
        THAT IS NOT AN OPEN SYSTEM.

  • i also want what he is smoking!! GOOD stuff!!

  • I like how he chose the words "open platform" rather than "secure platform", "stable platform", "reliable platform".

  • by ItsJustAPseudonym ( 1259172 ) on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @04:07PM (#53102907)
    Gartner: Is Windows the most open system?
    Pinocchio: It wouldn't be inaccurate to assume that I couldn't exactly not say that it is or isn't almost partially incorrect.
    Gartner: So it isn't an open system?
    Pinocchio: On the contrary, I'm possibly more or less not definitely rejecting the idea that in no way with any amount of uncertainty that I undeniably do or do not know how it shouldn't probably be, if that indeed wasn't how it isn't. Even if it wasn't what I knew it was, that'd mean I'd really have to know what it wasn't...

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