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Google Rejects EU Antitrust Charges, Says Evidence is Lacking (reuters.com) 75

Google said Thursday it is rejecting accusations made by European Union that it abuses its dominant position with its shopping and advertising services, ramping up its fight back against the bloc's regulators. "The Commission's revised case still rests on a theory that doesn't fit the reality of how most people shop online," said Kent Walker, Google's general counsel, in a blog post. From a report on Reuters: "We never compromised the quality or relevance of the information we received. On the contrary, we improved it. That isn't 'favoring' -- that's listening to our customers," Walker said. His comments came as the company formally replied to the two charges, one of which it received in April last year and the other in July this year, earlier on Thursday.The official blog post here. Further reporting on Bloomberg.
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Google Rejects EU Antitrust Charges, Says Evidence is Lacking

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  • Yawn... (Score:4, Funny)

    by Feral Nerd ( 3929873 ) on Thursday November 03, 2016 @11:37AM (#53206001)

    Google Rejects EU Antitrust Charges, Says Evidence is Lacking

    They and everybody else ever accused of anti trust violations.

    • What's wrong, are they using their influence to keep Euroogle, the French-German-UK joint government-private joint venture from succeeding in the market?
    • by lbmouse ( 473316 )
      OK, so if I rob a bank I can just reject the charges and everything will be alright? I don't get this.
      • OK, so if I rob a bank I can just reject the charges and everything will be alright? I don't get this.

        Here'a a more accurate anaogy: You are rejecting a couple of guys in suits with sunglasses and cigarette in their mouths who demand payment or, you know, things might get broken, be a shame if that happened.

    • So in retaliation Google forgets the EU, erasing all the EU member countries from their database resulting in worldwide amnesia, plummeting EU markets and clever stitching of Google Maps that show Russia now on the Atlantic coastline... It's a smaller world after all.

  • "We never compromised the quality or relevance of the information we received. On the contrary, we improved it. That isn't 'favoring' -- that's listening to our customers,"

    Really! Is Google's response a surprise?

    • surprise!

      * but I think Google has a good point in the subject (but I can be very wrong: I'm not from EU [I'm Brazillian])
    • When searching for a specific branded product by name and model number, as I need to make am exact like for like replacement, and the first 6 results are for the competitors of the product I searched for, instead of stores selling the specific thing I want, I can't see how this is can be called anything even close to "improving" the results.

  • Google monopoly? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by unixisc ( 2429386 ) on Thursday November 03, 2016 @11:48AM (#53206075)

    If Google is a monopoly, what could it possibly have a monopoly on?

    Search engines? There is Bing, DuckDuckGo, Amazon and whatever Apple has underpinning its search

    Android? Yeah, there's Android, but there is also Cyanogen, and some other Linux based wannabe phone OSs, like FireFox OS, Tizen. And if one looks beyond that, there is Apple, and even Microsoft.

    Phones? Yeah, you may have the Nexus and Pixel, but there is Samsung, LG, Sony and a few others, notably Chinese. And again, there are iPhones, Lumias, Blu, and so on.

    And if they're talking shopping, as the above blurb suggests, I never use Google to search. It's almost always Amazon, and on a few occasions, I've ordered things online directly from store sites like BB&B, when the thing I wanted wasn't available in stores.

    • Where did it say monopoly? This is anti-trust.
      • You might want to look up 'dominant position'
    • Apparently, Google has a monopoly on kicking the shit out of Apple and Microsoft by making things people want.

      • Like what? Online advertising?
    • Monopoly =/= anti-trust.

      • Google said Thursday it is rejecting accusations made by European Union that it abuses its dominant position with its shopping and advertising services, ramping up its fight back against the bloc's regulators.

        'Dominant position' implies that they are using their high visibility in their shopping and advertising to promote other products/services of theirs. This implies that they have a monopoly on something - which I refuted above. I'm not a big fan of Google, but let's not hype their influence here. As I pointed out above, I rarely depend on Google Ads or Services to find anything. I usually do a search on whatever I'm using. If it's my Android tablet, then it's Google, but if it is my iPhone or iPad, it

    • by phorm ( 591458 )

      I may use google to look things up about a given product, but I can't recall ever buying one from them. Usually I find some tech site reviews etc and then either buy it in-store, from Amazon, eBay, or a trusted retailer/eTailer.

    • When I search for something on Google, a list of categories appears. Right now it's: All, Maps, Images, Videos, and under More: News, Books, Flights. Additionally, in one of the search result spots, there's a list of images and a link to click for more images. Well, not long ago, one of the categories was Shopping, and sometimes, there would be a list of shopping search results, like the list of images. Someone in the EU wants Google to give Their shopping search site equal billing with its own categories
    • Search engines? There is Bing, DuckDuckGo, Amazon and whatever Apple has underpinning its search

      And in 1995, I could have said of Microsoft's monopoly - There is BSD Unix, Linux, Solaris, Sol, OS/2 and whatever Apple had.

      Monopolies are not stupid absolute.

  • Gosh, if I had known that you could just reject charges then I would be a free man now.
  • But nothing came up in the search results.
  • In retaliation Google erases the EU from their database resulting in worldwide amnesia, plummeting EU markets and clever stitching of Google Maps that show Russia now on the Atlantic coastline...

  • by jader3rd ( 2222716 ) on Thursday November 03, 2016 @02:23PM (#53207393)
    Once Google delisted the evidence, they figured that prosecutors won't be able to find it now.
  • "We googled it and we couldn't find any evidence of wrongdoing on our part, your honor"

  • "We never compromised the quality or relevance of the information we received. On the contrary, we improved it. That isn't 'favoring' -- that's listening to our customers."

    Google is stating the truth. It's just that we have to keep in mind who Google's customers are. The vast majority of Google service users are cattle and not customers. We don't pay Google any money, and in return Google doesn't consider the impact of their actions on the general public. There are cases where Google interests coinciden

    • You're only seeing part of the picture.

      Android isn't the product Google sells. Google search isn't the product. Gmail, Youtube, and all the other services Google provides are not the products that Google sells.

      YOU are the product Google sells. The reason Google search is so awesome is so that YOU will use it, and Google can then sell your viewing of their page to advertisers. Same with Android, Youtube, Gmail, Drive, all of it.

      The happier Google can keep its product, and the more Google knows about its prod

      • You're only seeing part of the picture.

        Android isn't the product Google sells. Google search isn't the product. Gmail, Youtube, and all the other services Google provides are not the products that Google sells.

        YOU are the product Google sells. The reason Google search is so awesome is so that YOU will use it, and Google can then sell your viewing of their page to advertisers. Same with Android, Youtube, Gmail, Drive, all of it.

        I see this and completely agree. We are the cattle, to be fattened, slaughtered, and sold.

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