Twitter May Save Vine by Selling it (techcrunch.com) 62
Internet products come and go. Twitter announced late last month that it will be shutting down its micro-video platform Vine. But the fate of Vine, which has since received a lot of support, could change. Twitter has received a large number of bids from interested parties looking to buy the app, reports TechCrunch. From the article: One source says that at least some of the offers are for less than $10 million, indicating Twitter might not generate significant revenue directly from selling Vine. However, Vine could still benefit Twitter even if it's owned by someone who would help it thrive and retain the strong integration between the two apps. Vine content plays instantly in the Twitter stream, bolstering its current parent company's quest to serve more video that could attract user engagement.
Re:Twitter is dead (Score:5, Funny)
one can't thrive by merely pandering to the weak minded herd.
*cough* Apple
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one can't thrive by merely pandering to the weak minded herd.
*cough* Apple
apple is not thriving at the moment, with iphone with dwindling market share in a mature market, making most of its profits, its only past momentum that keeps it afloat.
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apple is not thriving at the moment, with iphone with dwindling market share in a mature market, making most of its profits, its only past momentum that keeps it afloat.
You're funny. 5th richest company in the world. $177.7b in cash. 107% of smart phone profits (that's right, the competition as a whole had a loss). With $177.7b in the bank, they can take a decade off for R&D if they want.
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apple is not thriving at the moment, with iphone with dwindling market share in a mature market, making most of its profits, its only past momentum that keeps it afloat.
You're funny. 5th richest company in the world. $177.7b in cash. 107% of smart phone profits (that's right, the competition as a whole had a loss). With $177.7b in the bank, they can take a decade off for R&D if they want.
Wrong. Apple has about 6% of their money in the USA, everything else is abroad and essentially useless because if they bring it back half of it goes to the tax man. Apple is rich on paper but cash poor and has heavy debt.
As for "a decade of R&D": this is exactly what they have NOT done. The first iPhone is now almost a decade old and they've done nothing but surf on that since then. They can't even be bothered to do proper QA on their software or secure their friggin cloud. Idiots with billions.
Wonder w
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Money isn't useless if it's not in the USA. But hey don't take my word for it. Ask the 95% of the world that doesn't live in the USA.
As for "a decade of R&D": this is exactly what they have NOT done. The first iPhone is now almost a decade old and they've done nothing but surf on that since then.
Compared to what? The fantastic innovation coming out of Samsung, HTC, and Lenovo? They don't have to live up to your standards, they only have to keep up with the competition.
They can't even be bothered to do proper QA on their software or secure their friggin cloud. Idiots with billions.
Again, compared to what?
Wonder why the economy is bad? Companies like Apple are a financial cancer.
I didn't say they weren't a financial cancer. I said they are doing incredible financially compare to their competition and have a ridiculous amount of reserves. Both of those are
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Money isn't useless if it's not in the USA.
Apple employees outside the USA work in the retail stores or tech support. Are you suggesting a big brainstorm of those clerks financed by the 200 billions dollars Apple stashes offshore? That's your decade of R&D?
Get real.
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Apple employees outside the USA work in the retail stores or tech support. Are you suggesting a big brainstorm of those clerks financed by the 200 billions dollars Apple stashes offshore? That's your decade of R&D?
You're right. It's impossible for Apple to say open up engineering centers in other parts of the world. After all, no other company has been able to hire engineers and build products outside of the USA.
But anyway, I don't disagree. Apple is swirling the drain here. You've got your pulse on this tech business world. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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If you think they would move their design or R&D abroad, you're delusional. All they have is their intellectual property, they're not gonna outsource that to Ireland or Poland, and sending US workers abroad to bypass he IRS can't be done.
Anyways there's no way they would spend tons on R&D, or they would do so already. Apple is currently spending less on R&D than Microsoft or Google, and barely more than Facebook, although they have much bigger revenue. I guess they're banking on idiots like you
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With your business acumen, could you provide with with some hot stock tips? Sun Microsystems?
I guess they're banking on idiots like you buying the same products over and over.
As opposed to, say, some other idiots that base their business decisions on things like ... what, I don't even know. Not performance. Not profits. Not assets. Not customer loyalty or satisfaction. Some deep seated illogical hatred of a thing that has no personality to begin with? I dunno, maybe you were a "PC guy" when you were kid and haven't grown out of that line of thinking?
Anyway, as much fun as it is to specul
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With your business acumen, could you provide with with some hot stock tips?
Sure. Buy stock of reliable, steady companies that make money by providing something of value, not stock from marketing companies like Apple that depend on a captive audience of imbeciles.
For instance, someone buying Microsoft stock 5 years ago doubled their money, while people buying Apple 5 years ago made a fantastic 8% gain. Companies with no value proposition are speculation material, and while it's possible to make money with volatile stock (I made a killing over and over with BBRY) it's always a bigge
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works with Trump this morning too...
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works with Trump this morning too...
Please summarize in one sentence the political platform of Clinton. We'll see how clever and informed her supporters are.
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I could have made the same comment vs Clinton had she been elected. This election was Wall Street and establishment vs. Reality TV failed real estate mogul. And I didn't support anyone, nor vote, I don't live in the US. But good luck with your new guy. The devil you don't know, I guess...
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Don't get me wrong, the Trump candidacy is not a matter of national pride, but at the same time the fact that he's been elected instead of Clinton shows that it's no longer enough to have a "I'm not the other candidate" platform. Obama was the last president who pulled that card, moving forward hopefully people will offer something to vote for, not just something to vote against.
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Twitter May Save Vine by Selling it (Score:2)
Bad idea. (Score:2)
Vine sucks, it was a stupid idea, and it needs to die.
Re:Bad idea. (Score:4, Interesting)
I dunno. It's how my son consumes most of his professional sports. (e.g., "Who has time to wait for ESPN?" or "Did you see that catch? Here let me play it again.") And it's more conducive to conversation than a "long" 1-minute video, because everyone remembers what the context was after the clip.
I think these little Blitverts are thriving among the generation that will soon replace the whiney millennials - I wouldn't count them out.
140 seconds of MPEG-4 (Score:2)
Twitter allows uploads up to 512 MB and 140 seconds [twitter.com], which is an improvement over Vine. But it still has one problem: it allows only MPEG-4 codecs, which are patented in the home country of Twitter and Slashdot.
Thousands of Cat Video Loops (Score:3)
Are jumping for joy. Actually Vine has a big following, not as big as say Instagram but still a following.
The Mind Boggles (Score:3, Insightful)
It always struck me as odd that Slashdotters in general don't understand the appeal of microblogging
Twitter has been around for a decade, and some people still just don't get it, they don't understand why people use it (people love to communicate) and they don't understand how money is made (data mining and selling ad impressions)
All Vine has to do to turn a profit is monetize its videos and pass a % to creators (like YouTube eventually did) hell unscrupulous YouTubers currently rip off Vine videos into "compilations" and make money from that. If somebody is ripping off the system for profit then there IS money to be made
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If by "love to communicate", you mean "trolling", "baiting", "bragging", and "posturing"; you can't do a lot more in 140 characters.
Apparently neither does Twitter. [cnn.com]
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133 characters. Which one is this?
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I'm talking about Twitter [wikipedia.org]
I don't know of any service that has a 133 character limit.
Your posts are less than 140 characters (Score:2)
You seem to have missed the point. Both of your posts here are less than 140 characters.
According to you, anything less than 140 characters is "trolling", "baiting", "bragging", and "posturing". Which of those describes your posts here? They are under 140 characters, so they must be one of the types you listed.
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Yes, they are part of threaded conversations and a platform that supports long posts.
I wasn't saying that 140 character messages are never useful, on any platform, anywhere. What I was saying was that a platform that limits all its messages to 140 characters is going to be predominantly filled with "trolling", "baiting", "bragging", and "posturing". That's because a thoughtful exchange of ideas requires the availability
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Your sentence that I quoted was 133 characters.
By your own logic, it must therefore consist of "trolling", "baiting", "bragging", or "posturing".
Asserting that brevity can only result in the above categories is ridiculous.
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No, only by your logic. Note how I qualified my statement with "you can't do a lot more in 140 characters"? Occasionally, people say something sensible in a short message, just not often. On Slashdot and other services with threading, short messages can also occur as part of discussion threads. But Twitter also lacks threading.
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Yes, you qualified your statement with weasel words [wikipedia.org] so you could back out when called on your BS.
So you said nothing meaningful, and are now patting yourself smugly on the back for it. Good job.
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I see your intellect and debating style are perfectly suited to Twitter. I suggest you go over there as soon as you can and don't bother us here on Slashdot.
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Occasionally, people say something sensible in a short message, just not often
Post not smart.
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You don't use Twitter very much, do you? There's much more than this there....
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Learn to read: I said "you can't do a lot more in 140 characters", allowing for the occasional (rare) pithy and smart remark. Note that there are many services that do well with short messages because they have threading; Twitter doesn't have that either.
In any case, empirically, Twitter messages are overwhelmingly "trolling", "baiting", "bragging", and "posturing". The 140 character limit, combined with the poor Twitter user interface, is a likely explanation, but you're welcome to come up with alternative
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Your assumptions about Twitter are wrong. You can't monetize data mining because the vast majority of people post content, they don't consume content from other people.
That's a thing Twitter has in common with perl code... it's "write only".
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And how is this backwards?
70% of Twitter accounts follow less than 10 people, 80% are followed by less than 10 people. How do you monetize that with ads? It's essentially millions of people posting crap nobody cares about and not reading what oher people post. And a fair chunk of it all is notifications from Facebook or Wordpress.
The twitter monologues (Score:3)
Twitter has been around for a decade, and some people still just don't get it, they don't understand why people use it
Do "people" use it, or is Twitter all just one person with numerous sock puppets [slashdot.org]?
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Re:The Mind Boggles (Score:4, Insightful)
Twitter has been around for a decade, and some people still just don't get it, they don't understand why people use it (people love to communicate) and they don't understand how money is made (data mining and selling ad impressions)
I don't get it, but not for the reasons you listed. I understand that in theory Twitter could be useful. I argue that because people are asshats and the internet makes them even more so that Twitter will never be useful. Twitter is used mostly to insult and threaten strangers, to lie (ask anybody who follows sports writers on Twitter) and to waste time (yes, we all really must know what the Kardashians are doing 24x7). As far as making money goes, maybe you need to tell that to Twitter itself. The most recent financials I could quickly find show losses in 2015, 2014 and 2013 and there are multiple articles throughout this year talking about how nobody wants to buy Twitter because it isn't profitable. In fact their stock price got beat up in October for that very reason. Honestly I thought that by now Twitter would be like MySpace is and everybody under 24 or so would have long since abandoned it to the older folks and it would eventually die. But it turns out that young people like to insult, be lied to and follow the Kardashians as much as their parents do.
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Vine is important: we need action, not words. (Score:1)
Yet again we see "The Cloud", a singularly great concept if implemented correctly, undermined by businesses making short term decisions to discontinue services ordinary people have come to love and rely upon. In this case, Twitter announced Vine, people came to believe in it, and now Twitter is pulling the plug.
As long as businesses fail to follow through when creating new Internet served applications, trust in the entire concept of Internet served applications is going to be undermined. Would you trust
curso NR 10 (Score:1)