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Microsoft Co-founder Pledges $30 Million To House Seattle's Homeless (cnn.com) 179

Paul Allen, a founder of Microsoft has pledged $30 million to house Seattle's homeless. From a report: Seattle Mayor Ed Murray said Wednesday the city was partnering with Paul G. Allen's family foundation to build a facility to house homeless families with children. Allen's foundation will provide $30 million toward the development of the facility, while the city of Seattle has pledged $5 million for its maintenance and operation. It will be owned and operated by Mercy Housing Northwest, a nonprofit housing organization. Seattle is in King County, which has 1,684 families that are homeless, according to the mayor's announcement. More than 3,000 homeless children were enrolled in Seattle's public schools during the 2015-2016 year, it said.
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Microsoft Co-founder Pledges $30 Million To House Seattle's Homeless

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  • It will be interesting to see if the number of homeless in the city increases or decreases because of this.
    • You're right. This is enablement. They're being enabled to sleep through the night without being attacked, or freezing to death. They're being enabled to get clean and get to a job interview, if they can even find an opening. They're being enabled to live like human beings.

      How terrible.

      • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

        by hunter44102 ( 890157 )
        To liberals everything is great if someone else is paying for it. Why don't you house them and feed them and pay for their medical bills and children when they have them.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by drinkypoo ( 153816 )

          To liberals everything is great if someone else is paying for it.

          We already know that it's a lot cheaper to just give them a house than deal with the fallout of not caring about other humans. Why don't you want to take the cost-effective option?

        • To liberals everything is great if someone else is paying for it. Why don't you house them and feed them and pay for their medical bills and children when they have them.

          No abortions though, so we let them kids loose in the inner cities, with no job programs. And because its a moral failing on their parents part, they should suffer too. Cause "Jebus" and "righteousness" and "i got mine." Try thinking about someone other than yourself all the time.

        • This is not just free stuff. This is a program to combat homelessness. From TFA this money is going to Mercy Housing Northwest [mercyhousing.org] It is the organization that appears to have a great track record. Like most modern homeless shelters, it's about getting people on their feet, it at all possible. Better than spending money on prisons/healthcare costs/crime that comes with homelessness.

          From their website Mercy Housing Northwest:

          Impact on our residents

          Providing a home that families and individuals can afford is a valuable service. Some households need more. And we provide it. We call this coordination of housing and services “Service-Enriched Housing.”

          What does Resident Services or Service-Enriched housing mean?

          After school tutoring & homework club for students

          Exercise, health and wellness opportunities

          Nutrition workshops and healthy cooking classes

          Tax prep and EITC assistance

          Emergency food assistance

          ESL & employment coaching

          The goal of Service-Enriched Housing is to help families achieve stability and then to enhance that stability. It is stability that can be the greatest preventative measure to help families avoid homelessness. We accomplish this through dedicated and highly-motivated staff, extensive community partnerships, and a focus on programs that contribute to resident success and outcomes that can be measured.

          We not only believe that affordable housing and supportive programs improve the economic status of residents, transform neighborhoods and stabilize lives—the evidence shows that it does.

          74% of our residents in Washington have consistently paid their rent on time.

          91% of our residents in Washington have maintained their housing for 1+ year.

          72% of our residents in Washington have maintained their housing for 2+ years.

          84% of our residents in Washington have accessed 5 or more basic and enhanced skill-building services.

          This is not just free stuff. This is a program to combat homelessness. From TFA this money is going to Mercy Housing Northwest [mercyhousing.org] It is the organization that appears to have a great track record. Like most modern homeless shelters, it's about getting people on their feet, it at all possible. Better than spending money on prisons/healthcare costs/crime that comes with homelessness.

          From their website Mercy Housing Northwest:

          Impact on our residents

          Providing a home that families and individuals can afford is a valuable service. Some households need more. And we provide it. We call this coordination of housing and services “Service-Enriched Housing.”

          What does Resident Services or Service-Enriched housing mean?

          After school tutoring & homework club for students

          Exercise, health and wellness opportunities

          Nutrition workshops and healthy cooking classes

          Tax prep and EITC assistance

          Emergency food assistance

          ESL & employment coaching

          The goal of Service-Enriched Housing is to help families achieve stability and then to enhance that stability. It is stability that can be the greatest preventative measure to help families avoid homelessness. We accomplish this through dedicated and highly-motivated staff, extensive community partnerships, and a focus on programs that contribute to resident success and outcomes that can be measured.

          We not only believe that affordable housing and supportive programs improve the economic status of residents, transform neighborhoods and stabilize lives—the evidence shows that it does.

          74% of our residents in Washington have consistently paid their rent on time.

          91% of our residents in Washington have maintained their housing for 1+ year.

          72% of our residents in Washington have maintained their housing for 2+ years.

          84% of our residents in Washington have accessed 5 or more basic and enhanced skill-building services.

          Does that not sound better than just letting them be on the street?

          • Does that not sound better than just letting them be on the street?

            They'd be fine if we'd just spend the money on bootstraps for them. But no, we instead insist on entitlement handouts like this....

        • Why don't you pay for your own prison-industrial complex and pay for your interventionist foreign policy and military-industrial complex when you have it?

          To conservatives everything is great if somebody else is paying for it.

        • To liberals everything is great if someone else is paying for it. Why don't you house them and feed them and pay for their medical bills and children when they have them.

          I've often thought this about sanctuary cities, lets start deporting all the criminals there. Give them what they want. Let Sacramento be over run by the Mexican mafia and the like until they see the light.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      One would expect it to attract homeless from other cities to relocate to Seattle.

    • by Toad-san ( 64810 )

      Absolutely it will increase and increase and increase.

      The Homeless Wars (can I trademark that?) will be amusing, to say the least.

  • From what I've read about him so far. Unlike Bill Gates.

  • by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Thursday April 27, 2017 @09:58AM (#54312865)

    If the rich didn't get more ways to weasel out of paying their due, we wouldn't need the pittance they pay as charity. We'd have the money to provide for our people ourselves.

    Fuck you Paul Allen. The only reason you could create that "charity" is because you evaded paying what you owe.

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      • by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Thursday April 27, 2017 @10:46AM (#54313291) Journal
        And that's exactly the attitude that leads to this situation: the belief among a large subset of the population that they will eventually get rich and benefit from all of the loopholes that aid the rich. The overwhelming majority of the richest people in the world were born rich. They didn't come from being lower middle class and work hard to earn their money.
      • So you wouldn't want half a million because you'd have to pay 200k and instead are happy with 50k because that way you can get away with only paying 20k?

        I ... don't know if I can follow your logic.

        • Less money for ebil gubbermint, natch.

        • by theCoder ( 23772 )

          You're proposing a flat tax, which is a tax rate that is the same regardless of income. People who talk about the rich paying their "fair share" are not talking about a flat tax. They generally want an extremely progressive tax rate structure. So maybe the 50k earner pays 5k in taxes (or maybe even no taxes) while the 500k earner pays 400k (or more) in taxes. Sure, the "rich" guy ends up taking home more (100k vs. 45k), but it's no longer quite as much. If earning 500k over 50k takes 10 times the effor

      • by Anonymous Coward

        I would gladly pay a 70% tax rate on $20 million/year than to pay a 40% tax rate on $100,000/year. So, yes, feel free to pass up that extra money because you're "hammered" with marginally less returns* on every dollar of income you earn**.

        * From the law of diminishing marginal utility, you're not going to get much value after that first $100,000/year anyways, which is a major reason why it's less and less of a point to a person, except the "prestige" of it, to make so much income.

        ** Odds are good if you ma

    • by geek ( 5680 )

      He's paid more taxes in a year than you will your entire life.

    • by moeinvt ( 851793 )

      Yeah, because the $4 Trillion federal budget and $37.6 Billion state budget just aren't high enough. If only we paid more taxes and increased government spending, there would be no more homelessness. How much does government need before they can solve all of our problems for us? Can you put a number on it?

      Fuck big government.

    • by e r ( 2847683 )

      If the rich didn't get more ways to weasel out of paying their due...

      Looks like the rich weaseled their way into paying 47% of income taxes in the US [cnbc.com]. So, how much did you pay in taxes?

      • So... if we hang them and cash in their money we could essentially eliminate the foreign debt.

        Hmm...

        • by e r ( 2847683 )
          Advocating that other people be killed so that you can get control of their money... hmmm...
          Way to take the moral high ground.
    • by judoguy ( 534886 )

      If the rich didn't get more ways to weasel out of paying their due, we wouldn't need the pittance they pay as charity. We'd have the money to provide for our people ourselves.

      And what is "their" due? If all the money and property from all the billionaires in the U.S. were 100% confiscated it wouldn't pay for one year's average deficit, not expenditures, deficit under the recent administration's budgets.

      "Screw rich people"

      OK you get to have that opinion but seriously, what amount of "rich people tax" is going to make ANY difference?

      CUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING drastically the only useful answer.

  • It's nice to see Paul Allen using his tax deduction to help all of that American talent his company put on the streets.
  • How about $30 mil to stop the anti-broadband nonsense run by other Microsofties? That would help the economy far more.

  • Where? They've tried this on a smaller level, with tent camps and RV lots set up to give homeless a safe 'community' rather than living under the freeway. But most communities don't want to put up with the burglaries, car prowls and drug needles strewn around. So pretty soon, they close the camp and move them on. How will this work with a fixed facility? Which neighborhood will volunteer to host the opium den? So they'll institute some rules for residents. And that's when the addicts will just pack up and m

    • Once they have the families out of the camps they will be able to round up the remainder with few repercussions.

  • by retchdog ( 1319261 ) on Thursday April 27, 2017 @10:14AM (#54313035) Journal

    in unrelated news, Paul Allen buys Soylent and plans to expand production facilities into a number of Seattle Housing Authority buildings.

  • Very very charitable act, but it does make the problem worse in the long term. People value things for the price the pay for them. I'd love to see free housing on a temporary basis (1mo-6mo) and after 2mo you have to show income, and you can apply for extending that deadline twice once you have your spending reviewed. You should be able to get a minimum wage job within a few weeks, and begin work/training for a skilled labor job after you've got basic income coming in.

    Call me old-fashioned, but I believe
  • Where I come from, we call that a "ghetto".

    Yeppers, get them out of sight (and therefore out of mind) with the minimum effort and cost possible....

    Note, by the by, that the $30M is going to buy housing units (of whatever type) for about $15K per homeless family. Good luck with that....

  • "...a facility to house homeless families with children..."

    I understand why this happens, and kids certainly need help. As a disabled person who has spent time on the streets myself, it's good to see people, especially rich people, doing something concrete for the poor where they live. I'd love to see lots more charity and social programs, provided they're structured correctly. Which this one isn't.

    STOP TELLING POOR PEOPLE TO BREED TO GET FREE SHIT. At the very least, you need to help the people who are
    • STOP TELLING POOR PEOPLE TO BREED TO GET FREE SHIT.

      A much smaller way to write this is "improve education"

      Unfortunately, in the USA, you really do have to write it long: "Stop destroying education in order to create easily tractable low-information voters." Because that's what the federal government does, apparently, with policies like "No Child Left Behind" which at the implementation end, literally leaves educators without enough hours in the day to achieve the mandatory goals laid out in the program which may or may not correspond to students' needs (and

  • Most people don't realize that over 1000 people move to Seattle every week.

    Yet we build far fewer rental or owner-occupied properties than that.

    Most homeless are actually from here. Literally the same county. Most immigration is from our own state, then from California and Oregon and BC.

    Homelessness is occurring in all cities nationwide - Red Blue Purple doesn't matter.

    • by PPH ( 736903 )

      Most people don't realize that over 1000 people move to Seattle every week.

      $15/hour. Legal pot. Cheap heroin and Fentanyl and a police force instructed to look the other way.

      Most homeless are actually from here.

      Some is. Seattle is where you go when you aren't earning squat out in the sticks and Seattle advertises $15/hour for everyone. But a sizable amount is from out of state. The local TV station did a human interest bit on homelessness a few months back. They went to the tent camps and asked people whet their biggest problem was. Quite a few complained that they didn't realize Washington State was going to be so c

  • I can only speak to Alabama, but I'll for lack of better information conclude that the rest of the USA is the same. If it isn't my apologies.

    At one time in Alabama we had a "mental institution" called Bryce Hospital. I'm sure it wasn't pretty inside. The nature of the beast.

    But, it did put a roof over our mentally ill folks' head. It gave them three square meals a day.

    In the name of political correctness that facility was shut down. Those who might have found themselves there were "enabled." As best I

  • It would seem that there is a lot of ignorance floating around on this topic. This kind of assistance is exactly what various states and the Fed have been implementing for years now to address the problem of the chronically homeless. And contrary to what many would like to think it seems to have a high success rate. However that doesn't mean it's some kind of magic bullet that instantly fixes everything as there are constantly new people becoming chronically homeless and more resources can obviously help. H

  • And I thought driving past section 8 housing was bad. This will be MUCH WORSE!
  • Will they be forced off the street? Cause many don't want a house.
    • by Rande ( 255599 )

      Or at least not a house where they'd have to take a bus to get into the center of town so they can beg.
      Give them a room in the town center so they only have to walk 3 blocks for prime begging position and they'll never leave.

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