Lyft And Waymo Announce They'll Collaborate On Self-Driving Cars (nbcnews.com) 49
An anonymous reader quotes NBC:
In the race to the self-driving future, Lyft has agreed to work with Waymo, the self-driving car company owned by Google's parent company, to bring autonomous vehicles to the masses, both companies told NBC News on Sunday night. The announcement comes as Waymo has accused Lyft's biggest competitor, Uber, of stealing trade secrets from the company to advance its own self-driving operation...
Both companies issued gushy statements about their new partners. Lyft said Waymo "holds today's best self-driving technology, and collaborating with them will accelerate our shared vision of improving lives with the world's best transportation." And Waymo applauded Lyft's "vision and commitment to improving the way cities move", saying it would help their technology "reach more people, in more places."
Both companies issued gushy statements about their new partners. Lyft said Waymo "holds today's best self-driving technology, and collaborating with them will accelerate our shared vision of improving lives with the world's best transportation." And Waymo applauded Lyft's "vision and commitment to improving the way cities move", saying it would help their technology "reach more people, in more places."
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If they were Microsoft, they would be throwing chairs. Except Google actually has the capability to hurt Uber, whereas Microsoft had nothing.
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Uber -- which seems to be pretty much the poster child for everything that can be wrong with capitalism -- isn't likely to go quietly. They'll probably kill and maim no small number of innocents on their way to the dustbin of history.
But this is probably good news. Lyft is, if nothing else, adroit at avoiding bad publicity and may actually be a fairly decent company.
And Google -- no matter what you may think of their activities and ethics in other fields -- seems to be developing autonomous vehicle technology in a sane, methodical, responsible manner. Might be a great combo.
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If anybody tells you that you're shallow, obnoxious and a nitwit, I wouldn't dismiss them out of hand.
Try thinking a bit, for a change. You might even find that actually using the brain that you may have been given produces interesting results.
Did I say that socialism works well? Nope. Didn't say that. Don't think that. The record says it can do a pretty good job with healthcare, weapons systems, and heavy industry. Sucks pretty much everywhere and always at agriculture and producing/distributing consumer goods
But capitalism has -- whether you like it or not -- a few problems as well.
It is claimed they say in Russia. "Everything Marx told us about communism was wrong. Unfortunately, everything he told us about capitalism was right." Try thinking about it. You might learn something.
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The problem here is that you are treating socialism as an economical system (which is what the original intent for it was)
Socialism is an economic system. That's the whole point of it all. An economy sorts out how you allocate scarce resources, and that is exactly what socialism intends to do (and it does a very poor job of it, I might add.) Anyways, I think Russia's issues with capitalism stem from a big government corruption problem (mainly on the part of the oligarchs and Putin) and not necessarily capitalism itself.
Let's put things in perspective for a second here:
1980's soviet grocery store: https://youtu.be/oOBFMMbUFI8?t [youtu.be]
The dangers of 'self-driving' (Score:3)
Of course, the cars will be fully protected from this kind of behaviour, firewalls, virus protection until something sneaks in through the entertainment system. In other words, fully protected, until it isn't, business as usual.
Just thought I'd mention this, with the ransomware thing, it's been that kind of week.
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The dangers of 'self-driving' = dealership only (Score:2)
The dangers of 'self-driving' = dealership only service even for lights and oil changes Maybe even tires as well!
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The dangers of 'self-driving' = dealership only service even for lights and oil changes Maybe even tires as well!
Who cares? I have as much interest in servicing my car as I do in tinkering with my fridge. None.
I'm sure you'll be allowed to play around with cars as a hobby if you really enjoy it.
hobby what about paying $150 for basic oil change (Score:2)
hobby what about paying $150 for basic oil change at dealer when there is no jiffy lube to keep them in check.
Paying $100 for a light change as that is the dealership min fee for service.
$150-$200 to change an battery? you can change it own your own but that may trigger battery suicide mode that can void your warranty just like capcom did in the past.
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How does a computer being able to turn the steering wheel prevent me from changing it's oil in the driveway when it's turned off?
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I wonder why no-one thinks about this, the car is always connected to the network. So someone can probably take over your car and drive you to the police station. That is a better outcome, anyway, than driving you to the outskirts, robbing and shooting you...
I recently moved to a different county, where it seems that everyone drives the exact speed limit. In every lane.
Normally I'm not prone to becoming frustrated and angry behind the wheel, but as I sit there unable to pass anyone in the left lane, I started to wonder....is this bullshit what is to be expected when autonomous cars start to take over? Computers programmed to never exceed the speed limit, and drive in a sane controlled manner all the time?
Not saying that doesn't make sense, especially as not
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A thousand times this. If self driving as it is today (rule-based) becomes the norm, we will forever be driving behind a grey haired old lady.
Yeah but you'll be sleeping or watching a movie, so it woin't matter.
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Re: The dangers of 'self-driving' (Score:2)
If self driving cars can be hacked it will basically be all your fault for being cool with allowing your entertainment system to be on the same network as the the control system. Same thing with having an insecure unvetted system that is subject to auto updates. I mean the whole system is closed, what if someone malicious works at Tesla? Is code that runs the control system subject to independent review/audit? Anybody give a shit?
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Or, it could come from the people at Uber being complete fucking assholes, and assholery at the top of famous darling corps always eventually gets reported on.
But yeah, I'm sure it's your Google - GM conspiracy. Better adjust the tinfoil hat, buddy.
Future Business Model? (Score:2)
Will Lyft (and Uber) continue to operate on a contract basis, expecting individual contractors (since they're not drivers, perhaps they need to be called "investors?") to purchase their own self-driving cars to use with the service? Or will these companies purchase their own vehicles and get into the actual service business themselves? I personally think the ideal situation in the future is the complete elimination of personal vehicle ownership, but since I don't see that happening, allowing people to dir