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You Might Use AI, But That Doesn't Mean You're an AI Company, Says a Founder of Google Brain (venturebeat.com) 73

As AI space gets crowded, there are a slew of businesses -- new and old -- looking to market themselves as "AI companies." But according to Andrew Ng, a founder of the Google Brain team and a luminary in the space, there's more to being an AI company than just using a neural net. From a report: In his view, while it's possible to create a website for a shopping mall, that doesn't make it an internet company. In the same way, just implementing basic machine learning does not make a standard technology company (or any other business) an AI company. "You're not an AI company because there are a few people using a few neural networks somewhere," Ng said. "It's much deeper than that." First and foremost, AI companies are strategic about their acquisition of data, which is used as the fuel for machine learning systems. Once an AI company has acquired the data, Ng said that they tend to store it in centralized warehouses for processing. Most enterprises have their information spread across multiple different warehouses, and collating that data for machine learning can prove difficult. AI companies also implement modern development practices, like frequent deployments. That means it's possible to change the product and learn from the changes.
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You Might Use AI, But That Doesn't Mean You're an AI Company, Says a Founder of Google Brain

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  • Being an AI company comes down to - is your primary business AI? That's it. All this other crap - whether it's useful or not - is just a way to crow about how great or big his company is.
    • All this guy is really saying that you are not an AI company if you dont do the things we at Google do. Go ahead Drink the GoolAid. Next they will say you are not an AI company if you dont have the dysfunctional Open Offices. News flash Genius - most progress in history was made by introverts who like a quiet place to work where they can concentrate. Google started out as a good company but now it pushes toxic trends as a bunch of politicians managed to get hired. I would take anything coming out of Google

  • and they're all inlaws, so they are my AI company
  • by TimothyHollins ( 4720957 ) on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @04:34PM (#55227839)

    I get the feeling he's ranting his way up to outright saying "Only Google (Brain) counts as a *real* AI company, everyone else is a faker, and they have cooties too".

    Either that or he's giving an open invitation to start a flamewar about who is and isn't a *real* AI engineer.

    • I get the feeling he's ranting his way up to outright saying "Only Google (Brain) counts as a *real* AI company, everyone else is a faker, and they have cooties too".

      Either that or he's giving an open invitation to start a flamewar about who is and isn't a *real* AI engineer.

      Come on... Everyone knows that as soon as you link against TensorFlow, you are now an AI company.

  • AI blah, AI blah blah. Is there no other tech news nowadays?
    • . . . You sound like someone in the 90's being pissed that everyone keeps talking about this newfangled "Internet" thing and they're failing to focus on what's really important. Like the Z380 processor.

  • There is a certain crossover point that is hard to ignore. The U.S. Supreme Court has already given corporations the same rights as humans. An AI CEO and complete AI ownership should now be possible. That means no stockholders to pay off. As profits occur the AI can now expand its hardware and software or invest in other corporations or even real estate. The AI business now exists to serve only itself. That should give a huge advantage over corporations using human ownership and management. It could
    • The U.S. Supreme Court has already given corporations the same rights as humans

      I know you're talking about Citizens United case, and I'm just as pissed about it as you are, but the ruling was more selective than that. They ruled that groups of people are free to make political contributions... as a group. Corporate personhood [wikipedia.org] has gone back and forth in the USA over the decades. But they don't have the same rights, not even after that case. They can't vote, for example.

      An AI CEO and complete AI ownership

      That's... essentially just a corporate charter. Or a trust. They have employees enact the algorithm. Typic

  • There is no AI; it's not even remotely possible yet. There is no artificial intelligence. It's just a buzzword for 'clever code'.

    I get so god damn worked up when everybody and their dog is claiming to use AI when real true artificial intelligence would be the greatest achievement in computer science since it's invention.
    A computer that can think for itself, think beyond it's code, re-write itself to learn, to adapt, to act like a living mind; that is AI and we're not even fucking close.

  • An AI company is any company where AI is their product - they don't have to organize themselves a certain way or even be successful.

    Everything else is a company that uses AI.

  • all you need to be an AI company is to buy one, put it in the center of a room and start worshipping it like a god. ...

    ok, it would be more like an AI cult than a company unless you start exploiting your faith for profit.

  • AAAAGH (Score:2, Interesting)

    by argStyopa ( 232550 )

    "...As AI space gets crowded..."

    Jesus, just STOP already?

    First it was referring to every remote-control anything as a "drone".

    Then it's the universality of solar power because it's so 'competitive'....yes, as long as its subsidized to the tune of what 40x any other power generation industry?

    Then it was the panegyrics about the end of the gasoline car when electrics are barely more than a boutique electric golf cart serving a *teensy* niche market.

    Now it's "...As AI space gets crowded..." *WHAT* AI space?

    • It'a all the Marketeers that make it crowded.

    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      Well, this is the problem with human language: humans use it.

      Words mean whatever most people agree they mean, and regrettably most people are sloppy thinkers. Shortly after a word like, oh say "broadband", enters the language with a wonderfully sharp meaning that is immediately dulled the instant the masses take it up.

      This leaves the more precise-minded of us in a lexicographic position analogous to a carpenter attempting to carve a dovetail joint with a stick of butter.

  • AI companies also implement modern development practices, like frequent deployments.

    Wha... so I'm not a REAL AI company unless I do continuous deployment like an agile strategy?
    Doesn't that belie the fact that a TRUE AI should only be deployed ONCE and then becomes self maintainable?
    Fess up - You guys don't have "AI" either - you have nothing more than the old Animal program on steroids and you're constantly updating the backend database that the "AI" program drives through to find a match
    http://www.animalgame.com/play... [animalgame.com]

  • Just because I buy and use something, doesn't make mean that I understand that thing or have any particular expertise or insight about it.

    Kim Kardashian uses an iPhone, but I would not describe her as a high-tech individual.

  • That make Google an advertising company then?

  • shhhh, stop exposing my scam, dammit, i spent a lot to start my smart-socks biz

  • Head "AI" honcho at Google tells let's everyone else know that aren't really doing AI.

    AI companies also implement modern development practices, like frequent deployments.

    I really fail to see how the software development processes one follows defines if you are doing "AI", or not.

    That means it's possible to change the product and learn from the changes.

    Tell me more Mr. Wizard!

  • The only motivation I can see to such a hair splitting speech is that Google wants to market itself as an AI company. Otherwise, who care about what company is AI or not?
  • I'm going out on a limb here but isn't intelligence just the ability to dynamically react to environment? Designating something that exhibits this trait as AI invokes naturalism. Are you natural? No. Is 'AI' artificial? No. You are a machine and so are the bots, they're just better at math. This debate reminds me of the concept of ether before electromagnetism was theorised. Intelligence/consciousness, etc are just the new ether...an intellectual crutch for those who lack imagination
  • My dad is bigger than your dad and he says we are an AI family, so there.

  • Google uses advertising to finance their AI research and uses AI in some of their products, but that doesn't make Google "an AI company": AI software or hardware isn't a significant product for Google, at least not yet.

  • WTF is Google Brian? Certainly not the messiah ;-)

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