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Your Car May Soon Start Serving You Ads (siliconbeat.com) 310

An anonymous reader quotes SiliconBeat: Santa Clara auto-tech firm Telenav has just announced an "in-car advertising platform" for cars that connect to the internet. Telenav wants to sell the system to major auto manufacturers. And although it's probably the last thing many consumers want, vehicle owners will pay more for connected-car services if they decline the ads. "This approach helps car makers offset costs related to connected services, such as wireless data, content, software and cloud services," a spokeswoman for Telenav said Jan. 5. "In return for accepting ads in vehicles, drivers benefit from access to connected services without subscription fees, as well as new driving experiences that come from the highly-targeted and relevant offers delivered based on information coming from the vehicle."

Auto makers including Toyota, Lexus, Ford, GM and Cadillac already use the company's connected-car products, the spokeswoman said. Telenav CEO H.P. Jin in a press release called the ad platform "an exciting new opportunity" for vehicle manufacturers to "monetize connectivity to cover service costs and even drive healthy profits while enriching the consumer experience with safely delivered, engaging and relevant offers"...

To prevent driver distraction, "ads only appear when the vehicle is stopped, such as at car startup, traffic lights and upon arrival," Telenav said... Of course, driver distraction won't be an issue in self-driving cars, and this technology suggests the captive audiences in those vehicles will likely be subjected to an ad barrage in robotic ride-sharing vehicles and automated cars whose owners decline to pay more to avoid in-car advertising.

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  • Sigh (Score:5, Funny)

    by Fly Swatter ( 30498 ) on Saturday January 06, 2018 @10:26PM (#55877753) Homepage
    Guess I'm sticking with my '77 olds. But I already get served ads in that too, the radio still works...
    • by arth1 ( 260657 )

      Guess I'm sticking with my '77 olds. But I already get served ads in that too, the radio still works...

      Depending on the country. Most have abandoned AM and some are turning off FM now. Some new cars don't have FM radios anymore. Between mobile phone streaming, satellite, digital broadcasts and good old USB sticks, analog radio is on the way out.

      • I hope not.
        Back in August I was islanded in my apartment for 3 days after Hurricane Harvey encircled it with water. Mobile networks were down. I have no satellite receiver in my home, and it wouldn't work in a hurricane anyway. No digital receivers either. But I did have two analog radios at my disposal - a phone with an FM tuner, and an old-style boombox. Not because I had went out and bought them in anticipation of the storm, but because they were already there and had been for years. As is the case in m
      • I ditched that the minute I was able to connect an MP3 player to my stereo.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        AM won't go away any time soon. Aside from the longer range and low cost, it's seem as a alternative to digital radio where reception is poor. The spectrum is also less valuable than higher frequencies so there is less benefit to turning it off.

        I finished working on a brand new AM receiver last year, to supply to countries where FM is being turned off.

    • by Hartree ( 191324 )

      If not that, there's always the billboards.

    • You don't have to go that far back. Any GM vehicle built while OnStar was still analog-cell-based will do. My '01 Tahoe could definitely use a refresher on the inside (new carpet, seats re-covered), but the outside has been restored, and it's mechanically quite sound. You can even get simple dash mods to put a double-DIN sound system with a decent screen in it, so you can have the useful modern things like a backup camera. If I used it more, I absolutely would. As it is, I installed a cheap Bluetooth-capab
    • Re:Sigh (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Dayze!Confused ( 717774 ) <slashdot.org@NoSpam.ohyonghao.com> on Sunday January 07, 2018 @12:27AM (#55878195) Homepage Journal

      I recently just paid Amazon to stop serving me ads on my two kindle devices. I can now open my Kindle Paperwhite and NOT have to swipe to start reading. My Kindle Fire feels like it loads faster too without having to display ads, especially the animated variety. The entire time I had them not once had a relevant ad ever been posted, and selling my soul for $20 off just didn't seem worth it any more.

      • I'm seriously considering this. It feels like giving in to extortion. But I really really hate seeing ads.

        • Every time I open my Kindle Paperwhite I do not regret paying $20, it is amazing to open the cover and be reading instantly. Plus you get some more screen real estate on the home screen without the banner ad on the bottom when looking through your collection of books.

          The Kindle Fire was only $15, but it does feel faster, it's at least much quicker to open now that it doesn't have to stop and load ads, especially the animated ones. I don't see a setting to have it automatically unlock like the Paperwhite do

        • They still serve you ads. They push them as notifications and put them at the bottom of newly opened empty tabs. I bought one ad-free for the extra $20 a few years ago and it's the last device I'll ever buy from Amazon.
      • Re:Sigh (Score:5, Informative)

        by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Sunday January 07, 2018 @01:49AM (#55878455) Homepage

        I have one of the old e-ink display kindles. No ads or bullshit. It displays pictures of famous authors when "off".

    • Consider a music player of any sort + a tape (or FM if you must) adapters... they worked surprisingly well for me in a '96 buick, and tided me over until I got an aftermarket cd player. Is nice going months (or as long as I care to) without hearing ads while driving.
  • by NotSoHeavyD3 ( 1400425 ) on Saturday January 06, 2018 @10:27PM (#55877759)
    You'll pretty much have to stop your car in the middle of the street, turn it off and then start it up again to get the badly programmed ad to go away.
    • by Hal_Porter ( 817932 ) on Saturday January 06, 2018 @10:33PM (#55877793)

      Why not have Inline Infotainment? I found out InfoTourettes patented scripting system will add tailored product DIET COKE! placements that don't MARLBORO LIGHTS! LO FAT VEGETARIAN SALAD! disrupt the flow of the article TAMPONS! WONDERBRA! and adapt your site's likely audience PONIES! so as not to annoy them or seem intrusive PERSONAL TRAINERS! MANOLO BLAHNIKS!

      You probably haven't even noticed, but I'm using it now. And now InfoTourettes Car edition is available DON'T DRIVE THERE! DRIVE HERE INSTEAD! for all your in car Infotainment needs.

      • by rtb61 ( 674572 ) on Sunday January 07, 2018 @12:14AM (#55878155) Homepage

        People tend to miss the bigger picture. The bigger picture in this case, are ads winning customers or losing customers. Pretty easy to tell, if you and you are not alone, were targeted with an ad in this fashion, they would lose a customer. If the ads are not selling anything, than why pay for the ad. A lot of ads are now about convincing advertisers that ads work, not about selling anything to anyone, except ad space to advertisers. Right now jam a compulsary ad at me and you will lose a customer, no ifs buts or maybe, be wildly rude when trying to sell me something and your product is done, finished, wont be buying it and likely wont be buying anything else from your company.

        It seems like they have gone insane recently believing all the digital ad B$ and lost sight of, is that ad gaining customer or losing customers.

        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          That's why they favour product placement now. Waze has been doing it for years, you see random business highlighted on the map as landmarks. If you open the restaurant search it suggests the brands that paid first.

          With car integration I imagine it will start highlighting petrol stations when you get below 75% fuel remaining, for example.

    • Sorry, car must update. Have some sponsored content while you wait...
    • by Z00L00K ( 682162 )

      Not to mention the amount of driver distraction it would cause. I'd expect legislation soon to take care of this.

      • by Calydor ( 739835 ) on Sunday January 07, 2018 @04:16AM (#55878893)

        Pretty much this. Distraction will be a MAJOR issue.

        If I'm stopped at a red light I do not need to be distracted by ads. I'm not allowed to whip out my cell phone and check Facebook in those precious seconds for that exact reason. I need to be aware of the street in front of me so that even when the light turns green I know in advance whether a nice old lady is slowly making her way across and just wasn't fast enough.

        I've got enough of an issue with the lights here in Germany requiring me to take my eyes off the road and up to the side to see them rather than being set across the intersection so I constantly see the entire road - if I start getting blared with ads the moment I sit still that will NOT improve traffic safety in any way, shape or form.

        • by mjwx ( 966435 )

          Pretty much this. Distraction will be a MAJOR issue.

          Distraction has to be a major issue. Ads that don't get your attention don't work.

          Oddly enough, I feel that we're going to have to legislate against in car advertising... and it will be Europe that will be first.

  • Ha! (Score:5, Funny)

    by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Saturday January 06, 2018 @10:27PM (#55877761)

    This is not a problem I'm likely to have!

    • Username checks out.
      On another note: fuck that, my car is my private oasis of tranquility (when I'm not yelling at other drivers) and I intend to keep it that way. Screw your naviSPAM system, TeleSPAM, keep this garbage to yourselves.
      • I don't know...adding even more distractions to the cellphone using, text-messaging crowd who sometimes pay attention to the road they are driving on sounds like an excellent method for thinning the herd.

        • by Bigbutt ( 65939 )

          If they only thinned themselves I'd be cool with that. The problem is there are others of us out there still and until work is (and I am) good with telecommuting, I have to deal with these idiots. Time to break out the Recoilless Cannon for the car I guess.

          [John]

          • Personally, I'd go with the Sound of Silence. Only need 79 or so of those USB Bluetooth dongles, paired with a few 10-port hubs, hooked up to a single laptop to make a moving wall of silence (among other things). No WiFi, no Bluetooth, no problem. Bonus points if you use a waveguide.

      • by I'm New Around Here ( 1154723 ) on Saturday January 06, 2018 @11:50PM (#55878069)

        Username checks out.

        On another note: fuck that, my car is my private oasis of tranquility (when I'm not yelling at other drivers) ...

        On that note, my horn died yesterday. I used the last minute of its life alerting another driver they were a moron.

        • Horns are for those who can't peacefully rage well. Rethink your life :)
        • Username checks out.

          On another note: fuck that, my car is my private oasis of tranquility (when I'm not yelling at other drivers) ...

          On that note, my horn died yesterday. I used the last minute of its life alerting another driver they were a moron.

          Was he suitably chastened and vowed to abandon his moronic ways?

          The insistence of ramming advertisements into our heads through every possible medium merely dilutes them. And in a world where we have to protect ourselves from the ad servers, it will be only a matter of time before some smartasses figure out how to mess with your car. We live in a world where some fellow gets his jollies by Swatting another and getting him killed. There are lots of sociopaths out there.

          My issue is what I am going to do w

  • Nope (Score:5, Informative)

    by JBMcB ( 73720 ) on Saturday January 06, 2018 @10:28PM (#55877771)

    *Perhaps* for self-driving cars, but car manufacturers are SUPER paranoid about driver distraction to the point that there are strict rules about how fast stuff scrolls on a radio, and what types of information can be shown in certain colors, or flashing, or accompanied with sound. An ad blaring at you while you're waiting for a traffic light to change isn't going to happen. All it would take is one driver to say they were startled by the ad, hit the accelerator and smash into a semi truck, and the lawyers would be falling over themselves to file the first lawsuit.

    • by arth1 ( 260657 )

      *Perhaps* for self-driving cars, but car manufacturers are SUPER paranoid about driver distraction

      Is that why they project stuff on your windshield now?
      Personally, I find that very distracting.

      To say nothing about non-red/amber lights. Some newer cars make you feel you're sitting in a christmas tree.

    • I was wondering if they were going to tie it into the GPS to make sure that you were actually at a traffic light or stop sign if you were stopped and not waiting to merge into traffic as you are going on/coming off the highway. Or stopped to let an emergency vehicle by or stopped for a school bus when the whole point is to have your attention looking out for pedestrians.

    • Not perhaps (Score:4, Interesting)

      by waspleg ( 316038 ) on Sunday January 07, 2018 @12:40AM (#55878237) Journal

      There is a reason Google is one of the corporations throwing a fuck load of money at self-driving cars; namely a captive audience.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 06, 2018 @10:34PM (#55877801)

    I'm a plumber so I'm not a fancy guy who hangs out in corporate boardrooms and such. My office is a 97 Econoline.

    When these people are all sitting around that big mahogany table, in their fancy suits, do they *really* talk to each other like this, or do they think that guys like me are that stupid? If someone came up to me on the street talking like this, I'd punch them right in the mouth.

    "an exciting new opportunity" for vehicle manufacturers to "monetize connectivity to cover service costs and even drive healthy profits while enriching the consumer experience with safely delivered, engaging and relevant offers"...
     

    • by rnturn ( 11092 )

      ``When these people are all sitting around that big mahogany table, in their fancy suits, do they *really* talk to each other like this, or do they think that guys like me are that stupid? If someone came up to me on the street talking like this, I'd punch them right in the mouth.''

      Not really. There's usually a lot more discussion about `leveraging' things and `reaching out' to `stakeholders'.

    • by JustNiz ( 692889 )

      > do they *really* talk to each other like this, or do they think that guys like me are that stupid?

      yes and yes.

    • When these people are all sitting around that big mahogany table, in their fancy suits, do they *really* talk to each other like this, or do they think that guys like me are that stupid?

      Not quite like that. That's the marketing department. I'll do a Marketing to Suitspeech translation below.

      If someone came up to me on the street talking like this, I'd punch them right in the mouth.

      Doood! Anger issues!

      "an exciting new opportunity" for vehicle manufacturers to "monetize connectivity to cover service costs and even drive healthy profits while enriching the consumer experience with safely delivered, engaging and relevant offers"...

      Okay, translation into suitspeak follows:

      This is a disruptive paradigm shifting implementation of a cost center enhancement benefit action item, that will fungibly actualize client-centric, cloud based deliverables. Coupled with seamlessly e-enabling cross platform derivatives, we are foreseeing proactively implemented agents for change, metrics of empowerment, and synergistic mon

  • GIANT MIDDLE FINGER (Score:5, Informative)

    by MikeDataLink ( 536925 ) <mikeNO@SPAMmurraynet.net> on Saturday January 06, 2018 @10:36PM (#55877807) Homepage Journal

    Any car that comes with ads will not be purchased by me.

    • by arth1 ( 260657 )

      Any car that comes with ads will not be purchased by me.

      They've come with ads for a long time now. Some GPS systems show the logo of nearby stores and restaurants if they pay the car manufacturer a fee.
      And service reminders taken over by an Amazing Offer to activate Sirius XM for FREE for two months.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      I'll consider it if they pay my going rate to rent the ad space. â100 per ad when stationary, or â1000 per ad when moving seems reasonable.

  • by oldgraybeard ( 2939809 ) on Saturday January 06, 2018 @10:39PM (#55877819)
    I am getting my tool box/scope, etc out and disassembling removing and cutting wires ;) Just my 2 cents
  • They can get my 2002 Honda to do that? These people are some kinda stable genius.

  • to take the duct tape with you when you take that 'self drived' trip.

  • by Bruce Perens ( 3872 ) <bruce@perens.com> on Saturday January 06, 2018 @10:48PM (#55877845) Homepage Journal
    I have a paper on Open Cars [ssrn.com], written with Lother Determann (a Boalt Hall [Berkeley Law] professor). One of the issues I go over is just how fast the hardware in your car goes obsolete, compared to your phone. Manufacturers want embedded net features because they can have a continuing income after you have purchased the car, from wireless fees (the cellular company kicks back fees to the auto manufacturer) and from advertising and content. But you will end up plugging in a phone less than 2 years old instead of the built-in device.

    The problem is worse with self-driving computers. Who wants one more than 2 years old? Not even the state authorities who will license them.

    Auto manufacturers would like to solve this by having everyone lease their car. An alternative is for the car to have plugs for self-driving and network features, allowing the user more control. The paper has more detail on the social and legal issues.

    I have a 2007 Prius, a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee, and a Trailmanor travel trailer. Obviously I commute in the Prius and save the big SUV for tasks that need it. When I bought the Jeep, I rejected the connected version and went for a model with a dumber radio. I doubt I'm alone in making that choice.

    • by eth1 ( 94901 )

      Not only is the electronic stuff obsolete quickly, it's also overpriced to the point of absurdity.

      The last time a salesdroid tried to get me to pay $3k for a navigation system, I pointed out that I could buy a brand new, top-of-the-line standalone GPS with the latest features and maps every year for the next decade for that money. He didn't have an answer for that. :)

      • I used to have a TomTom device years ago... the "free map updates" sitcker on the box only worked for about 12 months. You can buy an Android phone for $79 and get continuously updated maps and navigation directions and any map corrections you lodge are usually updated for everybody within a week.
  • by MrLogic17 ( 233498 ) on Saturday January 06, 2018 @10:48PM (#55877849) Journal

    If I test drive a car that serves up an ad, not only am I not buying that car - I'm black-listing that brand forever.

    Bring it on punk - see how fast you can drop market share.

    • by green1 ( 322787 )

      So you're simply not going to drive any more. That's ok with them, you don't have enough market share on your own to influence anything.
      The issue is that it won't be one company doing it, they'd get creamed in the market, it will be all the big companies doing it, so people will just accept it as if it's normal (see TV, the internet, etc)

      • by Bigbutt ( 65939 )

        I'll stick to my motorcycles then. I tend to get older cars and trucks for general running around but with Amazon on the way to delivering everything, I may never have to leave the house (I'm kinda fine with that in general :) ).

        [John]

        • by green1 ( 322787 )

          Don't worry, they'll get motorcycles soon enough.
          As for older cars. The automakers have been lobbying for years for a maximum age of cars on the road, with all the recent driver assistance "safety" features added, it wouldn't surprise me if they finally get their way. How dare you drive a car without all of that stuff? Think of the children!

      • by JustNiz ( 692889 )

        I'll just uninstall their system, buy older cars, or even build my own before I submit to my car being always connected.

      • There will be autos without these features, it's a certainty.

      • Yes, that is the problem. I'd like to have cell phones that didn't track my activities, but I don't have that option.

        OTOH, I'd be surprised if ads in cars became popular because unlike tracking they are too obviously invasive. I think that audio recording of conversations in cars to "improve customer experiences" and "enhance safety" are much more likely.

  • Waze does this today (sometimes), which I find pretty annoying. If it happened in a car that I purchased I think I would be tempted to take the car back. If the car were free, maybe I'd accept it.

    I can definitely see this happening in subscription cars though. Still might put up with in in that case, tape cardboard over the screen.

  • Makes you pay more to avoid services you didn't want in the first place? Coming next, car seats lined with spikes - you pay extra to reduce the frequency of their springing out and jabbing you in the spine. I hope car buyers will avoid vehicles tricked out like this - spiked seats AND advertisements - and Telenav vanishes quickly.

    • by green1 ( 322787 )

      What other industry?

      Off the top of my head:
      - Cell phones
      - Internet assistants
      - many IOT devices
      - computers
      - internet routers
      - ISPs
      - TVs
      - Radio broadcast
      - many web pages

      That's just off the top of my head, and just the ones that do it in large bulk at the moment, however just wait, because almost EVERY industry is salivating at exactly this possibility, and the list of ones actually doing it is growing longer by the minute.

  • No. Just No. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sgage ( 109086 ) on Saturday January 06, 2018 @11:20PM (#55877935)

    If my 'car' (I'm a truck guy) starts 'serving' me ads, I will go ballistic. A man's truck is his own private kingdom. We live in a broken world. Surely there can be somewhere that we can be free of FUCKING ADS! I was in a pretty foul mood before I read this article, but now I am really depressed. Why can't they leave me the fuck alone?

    • Because you can afford a truck.

      • by sgage ( 109086 )

        Trucks are inexpensive compared to cars. I drive a truck because it's the cheapest way to get 4 wheel drive, and also, I need to haul stuff - hay, firewood, etc. In fact, I'm not sure what your point was.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 06, 2018 @11:23PM (#55877941)

    > ads only appear when the vehicle is stopped, such as at car startup, traffic lights and upon arrival

    God, no. It's all we can do to make it through an intersection because the first person in line is playing on their phone. They don't need the car automatically distracting them as well.

    Distracting people behind the wheel of a one ton death rocket is a bad idea, period. Please, oh please let common sense prevail, just this once...

  • List the news cars that do this and rank them below the most defective decades of car designs.
    Ensure customers looking for a new car online find the warning about ads in cars before they consider that new car.
    Defective by design and to avoid will be the results found, not your brands good reviews.
    Sell ads with a car, enjoy the online comments and news about the car with ads to avoid.
    The more a company tries to sell a car with ads the more the internet will inform people considering that brand and year o
  • Within this vale
    Of toil and sin
    Your head grows bald
    But not your chin

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  • >> owners will pay more for connected-car services if they decline the ads.

    I already won't buy any "connected car". I purposely avoid GM (onstar) and Tesla cars just for that reason.
    If it gets to a point where you literally can't buy any unconnected car any more, I'd either build my own or only buy cars where you can still hack the connectivity hardware out.

    • only buy cars where you can still hack the connectivity hardware out.

      "Hack" is a very broad term.

      I'm sure car community sites would figure out where the cell chip or cell radio is located. It may take a bit of digging in the vehicle to find the board, but likely only take a twist of a screwdriver or a slice with a utility knife to render the thing inoperable. There will be youtube videos and howto articles within days of the vehicle hitting the streets.

      Probably only a small percentage of owners would use

      • by JustNiz ( 692889 )

        The internet is laden with reports from people who have tried to disable/remove the Onstar radio that comes compulsorily built-in to all GM brand cars (so Chevvy, Buick etc).

        Some people with older models have success, but its amazing how "coincidentally" many people find right after they disable Onstar all sorts of problems with what would logically be totally unrelated systems (commonly the cruise control and other miscellaneous engine lights) start happening that would require you to take the car to a dea

      • "The thing" you render inoperable with a knife will be the whole radio/nav/driver information system. Which, on modern cars, might also be the entire instrument panel. It wouldn't surprise me that it, in turn, stops the vehicle from running at all.

        And at that point, I might just have to turn into a car enthusiast to build my own kit car, or keep one from 30 years ago running.
  • "Auto makers including Toyota, Lexus, Ford, GM and Cadillac already use the company's connected-car products, the spokeswoman said. "

    I don't know about the others above, but Ford's (you don't have any...) privacy policy SUCKS, so I don't use their services. It's only going to get worse. I can not use their services now, but it's not too far over the horizon where they're mandatory and you'll basically have a shrink-wrap license/privacy policy for you car that you'll have to accept in toto just to be able

  • by iggymanz ( 596061 ) on Saturday January 06, 2018 @11:54PM (#55878081)

    So you are distracted at the traffic light and don't see the kid on a bicycle that is riding along the line of stopped cars, and you then turn and kill him when the light turns green?

    Or someone jogging across at the last moment during yellow light?

    No. Drivers need to pay attention at the lights!

  • Why, you ask? Apparently, advertising sells stuff. But I wonder what sort of personality sits around and waits for an ad from - the TV? The radio? a magazine? A website? His f-ing CAR? to tell him or her how to dispose of any cash or credit balance he or she may have lying around.

    Shouldn't it work like: "Hmm. My shirt collar is frayed so I think I will go to Nordstrom's where I buy all my shirts and buy another one."?

    Do people REALLY hear an ad for two fidget spinners for the price of one, forget about the

  • ... as well as new driving experiences that come from the highly-targeted and relevant offers delivered based on information coming from the vehicle."

    What a HUGE pile of crap. Someone has been smoking too much crack and, quite frankly, not drinking enough Kool-Aid [wikipedia.org].

  • ... with several strips of duct tape. (Yeah, yeah... I know the display is used for other things.)

    Seriously... with smartphone storage capacity as large as it is, who hasn't already downloaded a metric ton of MP3s to their phones that they can listen to in the car obviating the need for an online connection?

    This company is selling a solution in search of a problem. I don't see this addressing any problems encountered by drivers.

    • Problem statement: There are idiots who drive our cars. How can we best take fiscal advantage of this?
  • I almost never go to the movies anymore...why ? Not overpriced popcorn, sticky floors, or blabbing kids...no, ads. I paid for the film, don't mind a few promos, but the long reel of ads before the long reel of ads that come with the feature turn me off so much that I don't think of going to the movies unless I REALLY want to see the film...otherwise I'll just wait till it comes out on disc or stream. There is NO way in hell that a vehicle, for which I've paid at least 25k for, has to serve me ads. Period
  • ... that advertisers don't seem to be willing to acknowledge that they are annoying, unwelcome, and unloved for the most part. There are exceptions, but they are few and far between (I thought the Bud Lite frog ads were kinda cute, but they got old fast. The Clydesdale ads were a bit better, but they got old too.)

    I never use my smart phone to browse any sites but my own. The Madison Ave. crowd seems to go wild when someone uses an iPhone on their sites to the point that I refuse, absolutely, to do so.

    It see

  • To prevent driver distraction, "ads only appear when the vehicle is stopped, such as at car startup, traffic lights and upon arrival.

    Waze already does this.

    It's fscking infuriating. A distraction is still a distraction, even when the vehicle's stopped. Fsck, it's even more of distraction when stopped, one of the few times I can actually devote attention to the map to see where I'm going next, only to have the whole $(GOD)-damned thing squatted over by a piece of paid vandalism screaming about the shitty

  • by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ) on Sunday January 07, 2018 @01:38AM (#55878409)

    Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?

    Fry: Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree.

  • "You can shift out of park after 20 seconds of this ad"
  • The phone you carry is not for communications. It is not for taking pictures/movies, email, music, streaming videos, or navigation either. It has one basic purpose: to monetize you. All it's other nominal functions are subsumed by that "prime directive". The arbitrary behavior that everyone finds annoying are not accidental, but are the symptoms of how it makes money off you. Bloatware, trackers and their battery draining antics are not a price you pay for convenience, but drive the design and ecosystem
  • Any brand that was so desperate to make money that they would try such shit is not going to sell to me. Think about it, if they are that desperate for a few dollars what is their warranty plan going to be like? Sorry sir your wheel falling off is not covered because you rotated it past 360 degrees...

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