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Bali Plans To Switch Off Internet Services For 24 Hours For New Year 'Quiet Reflection' (theguardian.com) 150

Internet service providers in Bali will be switching off mobile services this weekend for 24 hours to mark the Indonesian island's annual day of silence. "Nyepi, or New Year according to the ancient Balinese calendar, is a sacred day of reflection on the Hindu-majority island," reports The Guardian. "Even the international airport shuts down." From the report: This year authorities have called on telecommunications companies to unplug -- a request Bali says firms have promised to honor. "It was agreed that internet on mobile phones will be cut. All operators have agreed," Nyoman Sujaya, from the Bali communications ministry, told tirto.id. The plan, based on an appeal put forward by Balinese civil and religious groups, was announced following a meeting at the ministry in Jakarta. This is the first time internet services will be shut down in Bali for Nyepi, after the same request was denied last year. However, wifi connection will still be available at hotels and for strategic services such as security, aviation, hospitals and disaster agencies. Phone and SMS services will be operational, but the Indonesian Internet Service Provider Association is reviewing whether wifi at private residences will be temporarily cut.
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Bali Plans To Switch Off Internet Services For 24 Hours For New Year 'Quiet Reflection'

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    "How the fuck do I get out of Bali?", the bored citizen wondered quietly to himself.

  • by Digital Avatar ( 752673 ) on Thursday March 15, 2018 @09:39PM (#56267395) Journal

    ...we should all don our costumes and pretend they've returned to The Planet of the Apes.

  • are they going to send people to tell residents to unplug their routers?
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      They will ask the ISP to disable their whole internet service. Remember that non-tech people often confuse only vaguely related things.

      Wifi / internet
      Hard drive / computer
      USB / flash drive
      Web Search / Bing

  • VoIP (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nateman1352 ( 971364 ) on Thursday March 15, 2018 @09:49PM (#56267421)
    So what happens when someone who is using VoIP telephone service attempts to contact emergency medical, fire, or police services? Your SOL that day I guess? This is the problem with trying to legislate morality.
    • Re:VoIP (Score:5, Funny)

      by OrangeTide ( 124937 ) on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:07PM (#56267489) Homepage Journal

      You'll be in quiet reflection FOREVER.

    • God will save them. Or natural selection will intervene, anyway. (They're the same thing right?)
      • Well, they are Hindi. They have many gods!

      • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

        It's a cultural choice, as long as the people agree meh. Perhaps not the whole internet, perhaps require that all social media platforms shut down for regular periods at regular times, a chill out time. Perhaps one weekend at the start/end of season. So say, at the end of winter and the beginning of spring, they shut down on the nearest Friday evening and restart on the following Monday morning, they can do the updates and stuff at that time and everyone else can chill out for a bit, kind of crack the addic

    • So what happens when someone who is using VoIP telephone service attempts to contact emergency medical, fire, or police services? Your SOL that day I guess? This is the problem with trying to legislate morality.

      During nyepi, residents are asked to stay at home and not to go out, and most Indonesian home have PSTN line

    • VOIP will still work, what is your problem?
      Do you think they pull of the power from all internet infrastructure?

    • by Anonymous Coward

      That is why they should be doing this. If you can't think of a way to communicate if your internet is down then this is aimed straight at you.

    • That's one of the reasons this is grossly irresponsible.

    • >> So what happens when someone who is using VoIP telephone service attempts to contact emergency medical, fire, or police services?
      It happens the same than when someone has a hard disk failure : he learns the importance of backups.
      It happens that this person then realizes that VOIP is not a bullet proof service that should be relied on for emergency, and next time this person and a few around will be better prepared.

    • VoIP telephone service attempts to contact emergency medical, fire, or police services

      Same thing that happens any other day when the internet is working perfectly. They will die. There's a reason VoIP providers have a disclaimer about this. By the way with nearly 2/3rds of the population having a mobile phone and the vast majority of those users represented in a major city I find it hard to visualise a scenario where someone would not only be stupid enough to, but even would instinctively consider using some internet connection to call for help rather than just whipping out their phone.

  • The blackout of 2003 was good for people socializing. This will be too.

  • I was surprised at first but then i read the article. I thought it was going to be expensive until a saw that it won't effect folks who are living in hotels and such. So with that said, it's not that important to me. I'm not being crass, just thoughtful.

    • by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:19PM (#56267521)

      I predict there will be lots of Bali teenagers in quiet reflection in the immediate vicinity of these hotels.

      • by mjwx ( 966435 )

        I predict there will be lots of Bali teenagers in quiet reflection in the immediate vicinity of these hotels.

        It always surprises me that many Americans think every country is like theirs.

        Most teenagers in Bali wont have high end phones because most Balinese make less than US$200 per month... and that's double what many other Indonesian provinces make so their parents cant afford to buy them phones and their job wont pay enough either. The overwhelming majority of Balinese teens will be out drinking, partying, having sex (and getting pregnant) like teenagers used to do.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Well, there is a "Kissing Ritual" involved in this celebration, let the kids celebrate!
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omed-omedan

  • A good idea (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    This is probably a good idea for many places.

    People are getting too dependent and addicted and need to step back and reflect.

    If we cannot switch off our digital addiction for several days than we have a problem.

  • This is what would happen if we had an internet kill switch in the US.
    Except substitute "quiet reflection" with "pray to Jesus in the way my particular denomination does".

  • by Snotnose ( 212196 ) on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:05PM (#56267485)
    Note how they point out that emergency services personnel, security, hospitals, etc will still have internet? It's only the plebes, lets hope it's not the beginning.
  • not enough! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by supernova87a ( 532540 ) <kepler1@@@hotmail...com> on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:14PM (#56267503)
    Why don't they just cut all electricity, plumbing, and all other services so people are sure to reflect on the simple joy of life?
  • by Alwin Henseler ( 640539 ) on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:25PM (#56267541)

    There. Plain and simple. While Nyepi [wikipedia.org]:

    Observed from 6 a.m. until 6 a.m. the next morning, Nyepi is a day reserved for self-reflection, and as such, anything that might interfere with that purpose is restricted. The main restrictions are no lighting fires (and lights must be kept low); no working; no entertainment or pleasure; no traveling; and, for some, no talking or eating at all. The effect of these prohibitions is that Bali's usually bustling streets and roads are empty, there is little or no noise from TVs and radios, and few signs of activity are seen even inside homes.

    sounds good (we could have more of that, people tend to be noisy & stir things up wherever they go), the line following above quote already spoils it:

    The only people to be seen outdoors are the Pecalang, traditional security men who patrol the streets to ensure the prohibitions are being followed.

    To avoid confusion: I have no problem with religion in general. At all. But too much trouble in this world starts when [population group A] wants to enforce their world views on [population group B]. Above example seems pretty harmless, but the principle still holds. For that reason I hate it whenever this happens. Practical reasons: fine. When an issue must be decided one way or the other, and a super-majority picks the 'least evil' option with minimized harm to others: okay. But forcing some measure upon others for NO GOOD REASON other than tradition / culture / religion / state repression or whatever: not okay.

    While looking harmless enough in this case, it includes denying a basic utility service to (also according to WP) around 16.5% of non-Hindus in Bali. Or in the order of ~800k people. Who may or may not choose to participate in the event. But in case not, see their freedom to fill in their day as desired, trampled upon by the majority.

    If you want peace & quiet, go some place where there is peace & quiet, and do nothing to disturb that. If you want that as a group, find a place big enough for that group. If you want that for the rest of your live, go live in a place with no / few people around. Otherwise: stop messing with OTHER PEOPLE's lives. They are not your life, and thus (unless your rights are inflicted upon) not your business to mess with.

    • Sorry messed up the numbers a bit there. Might be closer to ~700k non-Hindus in Bali...

    • Ummm... why doesn't this work with your logic? If you want internet access during this time, go some place where there is no restriction on ISPs, and do nothing to disturb that. If you want that as a group, find a place big enough for that group.
      • by djinn6 ( 1868030 )
        How is it hard to understand? My internet access does not disturb you, so you should not be allowed to restrict my access. Likewise, your quiet reflection does not disturb me, therefore I cannot prevent you from quietly reflecting. Everyone gets to do what they want instead of trying to force the other side to do something the other side hates. This is how people end up killing each other for it.

        You might have a point if people want to throw loud parties, but even then, being the majority does not mean y
        • Balinese takes its religion very seriously, and it is under serious threat in the modern world. The quiet time is just part of that, they put a lot of effort into festivals.

          They are also under cultrual attack from large numbers of Javanese immigrants, and this is a way to assert their Balinese culture.

          After, Nyepi they then have a wild party, with the Ogoh-Ogoh -- have a look at
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

          Bali is still a magic place, despite the thousands of yobbo Australian tourists. Let's hope it r

      • So some Balinese are going to travel outside Bali because most Balinese are weird?
    • Ate you living in Bali? No? Then stop deciding what they should do. It is their life, not yours.

    • That is exactly what democracy is - "rule of the majority".

      If you want to avoid it, you should probably move to a non-democratic country, at the risk of succumbing to a tyranny of a much smaller group.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      no lighting fires (and lights must be kept low); no working; no entertainment or pleasure; no traveling; and, for some, no talking or eating at all

      I bet maternity wards are busy in September.

  • Theocracy (Score:4, Interesting)

    by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:29PM (#56267555)
    I'm sure the government asked a business to shut down service and everybody there was just like "Hey, that's a great idea".

    Seriously, does anyone else find this disturbing as hell? If you want to shut off your internet for a day go right ahead. Unplug your router. But having the government force the issue is frightening. Especially with the religious overtones. It doesn't help that I've been reading stories of Hindi nationalists out of India, but to be fair I've got no idea if that sort of nationalism exists in Indonesia.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Welcome to the world outside North America and a few countries in western Europe. You have it so good you actively seek out and invent hardships to fight. Go rsilversocialjustice!

  • There is an offline paradise
     
    Happy New Day of silence )

  • They could have been Jewish [wikipedia.org].

  • by hoofie ( 201045 ) <graeme@g[ ]meandkim.com ['rae' in gap]> on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:49AM (#56267887)
    From my Oz city alone [Perth] there are 3-4 flights just today to Bali, full of Ozzies looking to party and get hammered in Bali. [It is only a 4 hour flight].

    They will not be happy when they find out they cannot update Facebook, Instagram etc etc with pictures of them drinking bucket-size cocktails and in general being dickheads.
    • You take a flight and go to party and socialize and have your phone in your nose?

      Still, nothing wrong with snapping pics and taking videos, and then uploading later when you're sober. People probably don't need a live feed, plus it will probably save you some embarrassment!

  • They need to switch them on again on IPv6 only! No other country will ever have such opportunity of a flag day [wikipedia.org].

  • Is to go forcing it on others, is it not?
  • I thought Centurylink was just crappy DSL. Nope. Turns out they are tranquility Buddhist and just want me to have some quiet reflection time. How thoughtful of them.

  • ... That way I can finally catch up on my Fidonet Echoes.

  • If you have ever lived in Germany, you would be very familiar with this problem as there is a day when you are explicitly not allowed to dance in public [wikipedia.org] because of some Bismark era Christian-based legislation. People kind of know about this and some do think that it's a little weird. What people do not think is weird is that they are not allowed to work on Sundays, which is every single bit a religious law as the dancing one. Neither is getting repealed any time soon though, as the seems to be this general
  • How are people supposed to quietly reflect without cat memes? They contain more wisdom than some entire religions.
  • Making it a 'day of quiet reflection' instead of '2 minutes of hate' doesn't make it any less dystopic.

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