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Google Made New Search Tools To Help Veterans Find Better Jobs (cnbc.com) 129

Posted by msmash from the tech-for-good dept.
Google has rolled out a series of search tools to help military veterans find better jobs after returning to civilian life, the company said in a blog post. From a report: Former members of the military can now search "jobs for veterans," enter the military branch they served in and see results for job openings that match their skills. Google will also allow businesses to identify as "veteran-owned" or "veteran-led" in Google Maps and mobile search results. "We hope to use our technology to help veterans understand the full range of opportunities open to them across many different fields. Right now those opportunities are getting lost in translation," Matthew Hudson, a program manager for Google Cloud and an Air Force veteran, said in Monday's blog post.
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  • Why does the A and C schools don't count as college?

    • Because they do not comprise four years of education? The federal service academies count as college, the rest is just vocational training.

      • The problem with employment is there isn't a really good mapping of Years of Education vs Years of experience vs Military experience and rank. And to get this mapping out to most businesses who are hiring.

        • As a veteran I prefer to hire vets. Especially former navy vets with 3+ years and an honorable discharge. The skills do not directly relate. But I know they are trainable, the are capable of critical thinking, they are resourceful, and they habe thick skin.

          Hiring non-vet millennials is like running a freaking daycare with all the whining and tattling.

          • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

            by Anonymous Coward

            I don't like hiring veterans. My experience is that they spend far too much time creating drama by complaining about the millennials. They would be so much more productive if they took their effort to complain about millennials and directed it toward getting the job done. Millennials are generally my most productive employees because they do the job and don't create drama like veterans do.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by rtb61 ( 674572 )

            Have you not stopped to think the problem could be you, you could be an authoritarian freak that well does not really know or understand how to manage people. Don't think the military trains people how to manage people, it uses extreme force of law and violence to force obedience. So for you, asking people to politely do something and thanking them for it, when you pay them, probably seems a very uncomfortable stretch far more used to ordering them and demanding obedience. Have you got, just perhaps, too ma

      • Not necessarily - Senior NCOs and senior-level officers often go back and take required higher-level management and strategy training.

        • Sure, but in that case they either obtain a Master's from one of the DoD postgraduate institutions or receive further on-the-job training that does not add up to a college education, just like similar internal on-the-job training in the private sector does not constitute a college education.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Probably because they don't offer grammar...
      I was in a different branch maybe, but I assume you are referring to the vocational training one receives after basic training?

      They are meant to get you deployed as soon as possible with no chance of becoming an expert, so I don't know if they would even count as vocational.

      I tell you what sucks is that you can't use GI bill while in to do any kind of online class, you get some free colleges that are just complete bullshit (Excelsior?).

      I was lucky enough t

      • Yes, "A" School in the Army is what we simply called "Tech School" in the USAF. It's usually vocational training to get your initial competency level ("3 level" in the USAF), but it can also serve to teach those who are cross-training into another field, or who go back and get higher-level courses for senior-level positions (for instance, a Senior NCO might go take courses in management, a soon-to-be senior officer might take courses in higher-level/strategic combat, etc.)

      • Different branches experience different things. The navy is more apt to put you in the career you pick. Most lifers in the navy liked going to sea because they got to be away from their wife and kids. I always thought that was a fucked up thing to want to do; but they probably sucked as a dad anyway, so the kid probsbly was better off; despite how much it also sucked for him.

    • Re:Why does the A and C schools don't count as col (Score:5, Informative)

      by Penguinisto ( 415985 ) on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @02:51PM (#57212802) Journal

      Actually, the USAF has the Community College of The Air Force [af.mil], where that training does count (we just called it "Tech School"), depending on your AFSC ("MOS" in Army-speak) and what degree you were shooting for. OJT and CBTs (as well as PME/NCO training) also count as credits (again, depending on AFSC and degree). On top of all that, CLEP testing is (well, was) mega-cheap there.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by SpzToid ( 869795 )

        In an effort to kill time with Google while clarifying the parent:

        USAF = United States Air Force (I knew this one with no Google!)
        MOS = Military Occupational Specialty
        OJT = On-the-Job Training
        CBT = Computer-based Training (Google disagrees though, suggesting Cognitive behavioral therapy so Your Mileage May Vary: YMMV)
        PME/NCO = Professional Military Education (PME) / Non-Commissioned Officers
        CLEP = College Level Examination Program
        mega-cheap = affordable

      • AFSC = Air Force Specialty Code

    • Many of them do, but they need to be accepted by the institution just like any other transfer credit. Sailors have a "Joint Services transcript" (formerly called "SMART" because acronyms) that serves as their list of completed service/technical schools. It also offers a recommendation for lower-division credits based on the course. Since this is a partnership between DOD and the Department of Labor, I can only assume that the other lesser services have something similar if not identical.

    • They do translate to some credits. Most degrees have a bunch of core credits in general education. These schools are career specific and do not include cross-cultural classes or world history.

  • War Stories (Score:2, Funny)

    by PopeRatzo ( 965947 )

    It's about time. I fought in the 103rd Deskborne Division ("The Fighting Snowflakes) in the War on Christmas. Don't laugh, I was wounded twice and I'm still not quite the same. I am allowed a service gerbil, but it's still hard for me to find work. But I'm one of the lucky ones. I still have nightmares where I think I'm back at the Battle of the Macy's Parade. Lost lots of good people and at least two very large balloons that day.

    Thanks to Google for looking out for us.

  • Problem is the US government (Score:5, Interesting)

    by gurps_npc ( 621217 ) on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @02:42PM (#57212758) Homepage

    It does things like rule that a qualified Navy Corpsmen (their equivalent of a combat medic) is NOT qualified to be an EMT after they leave the army. (Army and Airforce medics are qualified to be an EMT).

    US military needs to think just a bit more about what their men can do after they leave the armed forces. A bit more planning, a few more courses (even if it simply covers civilian work) can mean a huge difference for our soldiers when they have completed their service.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      There's definitely plenty of room for improvement, but the thing that would arguably make the most difference isn't going to happen as it would make it harder to start wars and raise money for them.

      The biggest thing is to stop the solider worship and acting like the status quo for veterans is to be messed up from combat. The reality is that combat jobs are a minority of the jobs in the military. Somebody working the logistics side of operations from the US is not likely to have any particular issues with PT

    • I was involved in converting my Army unit medics to the new standard, and it isn't as easy as you think. There were a number of already qualified medics who struggled to get through the enhanced training required to upgrade to the 91W (Job code for the EMT level medic, now called 68W). Some of them had to transition to other job series because of it.

    • does the FAA count any military stuff?

      • I'm pretty sure that some aircraft maintenance work can count towards your A&P certificate.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

          I'm pretty sure that some aircraft maintenance work can count towards your A&P certificate.

          I'm pretty sure all of it can. Because aviation is actually a highly standardized thing (being well, you fly all over the world so the rules generally have to be quite uniform throughout, and they are save a few countries).

          This means if you're a pilot, you generally would have a CPL at the minimum (and probably have enough to upgrade to ATPL quickly). If you're a mechanic, you would have your A&P in order to a

    • In the navy, corpsmen even did sick call. If you go in complaining of flu-like symptoms you saw a corpsman, he prescribed you tylenol and motrin, and gave you 24hr bed rest. We used to joke that if you had aids, tylenol and motrin would still be the corse of treatment.

      I would put those tasks well above EMT. Somewhere between nurse and nurse practitioner.

      • Try that as a plumber. When the torpedo strikes, throw two washers into the flood, turn around and grumble "Call if it doesn't get better by tomorrow".

  • When 75 Percent of Young Adults Cannot Join the Military it is time to look at the barriers that face those who were deemed unfit to serve.

    While the readiness report is dated http://cdn.missionreadiness.or... [missionreadiness.org] the problem has only grown worse. Instead of disenfranchising the non-jocks, we need to be thinking about how we can create opportunities for all who wish to serve. I was hoping t see Space Command become its own branch, a branch that would be open to all. That didn't happen.

    • From the first paragraph of the article you posted:

      Three of the most common barriers for potential recruits are failure to graduate high school, a
      criminal record, and physical fitness issues, including obesity.

      You don't need special treatment to A) stay in school, B) not commit felonies, and C) exercise.

      Those limitations exist for a reason; were I enlisted I sure as hell wouldn't trust an obese meth-head with a 9th grade education with a machine gun, let alone ordnance.

      If 75% of Americans between 17-24 are ineligible for being too fat, too stupid, or too criminal, that's the fault of 75% of parents, not the military.

      • I would agree on most of what you posted except for activity level. Public schools fight me up and doen when i show up at the board meetings and insist they at least return kids to the activity levels in school we had in the 80s. My daughter is in hoghschool. The most PE she will have by the time she graduates as a senior is 1 9wk class in 7th grade, and a 6mos, every-other-day gyme class in 10th grade.

        In the 80s you get gym twice a week for grades 1-6. In 7th and 8th grade PE and Health shared the same blo

      • You don't need special treatment to exercise.

        You sort of do if an extremely powerful and under-regulated industry has convinced your parents to feed you copious quantities of sugar, hence giving you obesity well before you have been given the necessary information to make informed diet choices. If the couch potatoes responsible for putting you on the syrup teat have also failed to convey the importance of exercise to you for years, you must be truly exceptional to improve your diet, start exercising, and overcome obesity without any help whatsoever.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Hasaf ( 3744357 )

        If you had read the report a bit closer, you would have read the comment that, even if the potential recruit were to lose the weight, there were typically underlying medical conditions that would have rendered them ineligible.

        A quick family poll: Me, entrance medicaled out when it was noticed that my feet were slightly different sized during book issue. My brother-in law, slight colour vision, but not enough to make him ineligible for the same job category (pc tech) that we was trying to MOS. Daughter, in M

      • If 75% of your population are dumb, fat and criminal, I dare say it's very much a social problem not an individual one anymore.

  • Nice to see a hand up like this.

  • "No results found for your MOS code 98G"

    That's been my experience too.
    I can translate things, and did it as a job, and can and have demonstrated my skills.
    I don't need any fingers to count the number of people so far that have been willing to pay me based on that skill.
  • I am all for helping veterans but what about trying to help all people who are unemployed. I am 41, disabled, and have been looking for work for a while now but I haven't been able to find something that I am able to do. A lot of the lower skilled jobs have heavy lifting requirements or other things that I just cannot do right now. Well, what do I know?

  • What's so special about veterans — from the technological point of view — that a separate platform is warranted just for them?

    Seems like a pure PR-move. Now, when asked about being so partisan in their search-results [pjmedia.com], Google's PR-people (both paid and otherwise) can smugly switch topic to their "helping veterans".

  • If you put in a MOS, such as 74B, you get a lot of non-technical jobs, like Operations Manager. Basically, it just points you to companies that are "veteran friendly". Don't rely on Google.

  • What about other non-vets like people with disabilities (not from military)? :(

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