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Experimental AI Lie Detector Will Help Screen EU Travelers (engadget.com) 102

Posted by BeauHD from the lie-detector dept.
SeriousSamy shares a report from Engadget: In the future, you might talk to an AI to cross borders in the European Union. The EU and Hungary's National Police will run a six-month pilot project, iBorderCtrl, that will help screen travelers in Hungary, Greece and Latvia. The system will have you upload photos of your passport, visa and proof of funds, and then use a webcam to answer basic questions from a personalized AI border agent. The virtual officer will use AI to detect the facial microexpressions that can reveal when someone is lying. At the border, human agents will use that info to determine what to do next -- if there are signs of lying or a photo mismatch, they'll perform a more stringent check.
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  • Stop implementing dystopian shit, you idiots! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @05:09PM (#57571119)

    Do you want war? That's how you get war! Read the books to the end before you think "hey that tech sounds cool I'm going to build that".

    • Also, these mental rejects are calling tuned algorithms "intelligence."

    • Looks like someone is stuck in that old emotional worldview. You are hereby declared fit for level 3 re-education. Congratulations! Follow me or suffer a public execution.

    • Do you want war? That's how you get war!

      Americans complaining about border control in the EU amounts to war? Are you high? Have you ever traveled into either the EU or into America as a non-resident? If this was leading to war then the USA would have been in a perpetual state of wa....... oh crap.

  • I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

  • Great idea (Score:3)

    by king neckbeard ( 1801738 ) on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @05:17PM (#57571165)
    Oh, a Voight-Kampff test. I can't possibly see any downsides to this...

  • Sample Questions (Score:3)

    by Zorro ( 15797 ) on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @05:21PM (#57571183)

    "Let me see your identification."

    "These aren't the droids we're looking for."

    "You can go about your business."

    "Move along... move along."

    • You’re in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that?

  • lie detectors (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Every person who has taken Psychology 101 is aware that lie-detectors are useless -- I cringe when congress people call for those things to be used as they should know better -- the only benefit is if the person giving the test is watching for certain body language giveaways (it's entertaining to watch some of the people that are aware of body language signals displaying truth as they will enter into a strange feedback loop when they are asked questions)

    • Re:lie detectors (Score:5, Interesting)

      by HornWumpus ( 783565 ) on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @05:39PM (#57571255)

      Learn to lie with body language.

      'Tenting' your fingers during a job interview can get you more money. It's supposed to show 'true confidence and competence'.

      Lean forward whenever an interviewer is really boring the fuck out of you. It's supposed to show you are 'engaged and interested'.

      Remember there are no 'right answers' to personality assessment tests...unless you want the job. Then you want to score high on conscientiousness, openness to experience and agreeableness, low on neuroticism, right in the middle on extroversion (unless a marketer, than high on extroversion).

      Maintain an internal happy chant...'I've got a secret and you won't catch me, la la la lala, I've got a secret...'

      • You are quoting the same personality traits James Damore did on the anti-diversity screed that got him fired from Google. Especially the "neurotocism" part. Are you aware of that, or...?

        • The same test most widely accepted and used for hiring decisions in the USA?

          I'm not sure I get your point?

          Are you in favor of the scientology personality test instead? It also has 'correct' answers...which are mostly obvious, except for some reason the clams think you should memorize bus schedules when you have free second. If you see that test, best bet is to flee, there are Hubbardists in that company.

          • Tell you what, go to Google and let's see you peddle that line of filth about women being more neurotic, and see how long it takes you to be escorted to the door by security and permanently blacklisted from the industry.

  • Only the professional liars will get through (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Arzaboa ( 2804779 ) on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @05:27PM (#57571207)

    Nothing like being sent to secondary screening with the presumption you have done something bad. Humans don't handle part two under these circumstances any better than I believe robots will handle part 1.

    --
    I make mistakes growing up. I'm not perfect; I'm not a robot - Justin Bieber

    • Nothing like being sent to secondary screening with the presumption you have done something bad.

      How does that differ from today?

    • Maybe not 'professionals'. But Lying is a skill that can be improved, like any other.

      Lie more.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Potor ( 658520 )
      I go to secondary inspection at least once a year when entering the States (sometimes more than once, depending on the competence of the primary agent). It's never a problem for me, as my case is clear cut and things just need to be checked out. But I've heard some of the saddest things there (once I was next to a guy clearly sent to the USA to be a prostitute) and some of the funniest (a guy trying to prove that he was in fact a licensed body-guard).

    • Skilled liars engage in an excess of trust building behaviour in expressions of speech and nonverbal communication. These convince most people but not those trained as human lie detectors.

      Voice stress analysis is applied extensively by UK insurance companies for claims management and used to focus anti-fraud investigations.

  • Possible questions in 2025 (Score:4, Insightful)

    by eaglesrule ( 4607947 ) <eaglesrule@@@pm...me> on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @05:43PM (#57571285)

    Have you committed a thoughtcrime, or expressed an opinion that would not qualify as being approved by the EU, since your last mandatory screening?

    Have you ever shared, created, or even willingly viewed an illegal meme that is not already part of your permanent criminal record?

    Have you ever attempted to avoid, tamper with, or disable, any or all monitoring systems present in any personal electronic device, public space, or area designated for personal hygiene?

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward
      It's implemented by Hungary, which currently has a borderline fascist and anti-EU government. I suspect they'll sell it as some kind of subjective safety to protect the people from mostly imaginary threads, so they can sleep better at night knowing that the erosion of civil liberties will make it a bit harder for Mohammad to stay in a country he doesn't even want to be in to begin with.
      No surprises there. The actual EU haters should actually like this.
      The surprising part is that the EU is apparently fundi

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      You seem to be confusing the EU for the US. It's the US border where they will steal all your stuff, copy all your personal data off your devices, check your social media accounts etc.

      EU borders have nude scanners and of course non-EU citizens will be checked. But they don't generally ask about things like political views, don't review your social media accounts etc. Things like criminal record checks are done at the visa stage, or for people who don't need a visa on the landing card, and only consider thin

      • Oh really? Article 13 didn't pass and police raids and arrests for social media posts aren't happening on a daily basis? The London metropolitan police aren't actively trawling through social media looking for thought crime?

        Then there is this recent ruling by the EU court of 'human rights' [theatlantic.com] that decided that free speech is not a right and that the “the right of others to have their religious feelings protected” will be enforced through pain of fine or imprisonment. No doubt there will be even m

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by fazig ( 2909523 )
          Article 13 did pass. But you should really read how the article was revised. Now it reads like this:

          1. Without prejudice to Article 3(1) and (2) of Directive 2001/29/EC, online content sharing service providers that store and provide perform an act of communication to the public. They shall therefore conclude fair and appropriate licensing agreements with right holders.

          2. Licensing agreements which are concluded by online content sharing service providers with right holders for the acts of communication r

          • It's not the even the final version anyway. Plenty of chance for more closed door meetings and even more draconian bullshit to be crammed into this horrible excuse for legislation in an attempt to break the internet. Let the have-nots get used to the idea of sacrificing fair use before the full reality sets in. Let em' eat cake when it does.

  • So this is probably not the best image to project to the "virtual agent" when attempting a border crossing.

    http://images5.fanpop.com/imag... [fanpop.com]

  • upload photos? (Score:3)

    by Skapare ( 16644 ) on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @06:12PM (#57571387) Homepage

    it wants you to upload photos? over the internet? is that safe? what if someone fakes AI's FTP server and ends up getting those photos instead? you'd think Mr. AI, at the airport, would have a camera ... a pair of high speed ultra high definition high dynamic range ones, even.

    I wonder if it will accept Monopoly money.

    I wonder if it will accept bribes.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      According to TFA this will be a pre-screening done well before you reach the border, from your own computer. The idea is to speed up border crossing by doing as much of the checking prior to arrival as possible, and then only a quick mostly automated re-check is needed on the ground.

      The risk will be similar to online banking or any other web site that handles sensitive information.

      If you are paranoid you can opt out and use the standard border checks. A lot of people will probably be forced to due to techni

  • Can you say "Bogus"? I knew you could.

  • Somebody will create an AI using my image to answer the questions, without the indicators that I may be lying.

  • With their "created" fake documents.
    With shared documents.
    Using another persons story to create documents to travel with.
    People who have supported banned groups.
    Who have applied for "protection" many times under different names and with different "stories" each time.
    Criminals trying to gain a new clean ID as a person with another ID?

  • You'll catch cheaters but the sociopaths and psychopaths will beat this easily and those are the ones that you need to catch.

  • Every time I go through US immigration border control, I wish we had something similar instead here in the EU instead of just waving everyone through. (There's some "nice" stories about certain flight routes from African countries where there are virtually no check)

    Look at the ESTA form that is part of the US Visa Waiver program. They even want a list of all your social media accounts. Last time I applied, it was still optional, but I bet it is only a matter of time. Of course there is a worry what they thi

  • This, like all other methods based on behavioural observations and physiological reactions, will NOT work on psychopaths, which is arguably the demographic you should worry the most about. Psychopaths don't reflect their emotional state on their behaviour or on their body reactions. They don't sweat, their heart rate doesn't increase, when confronted with their lies, or while lying - even if they're lying their ass off.

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