Facebook Employees Are Calling Former Colleagues To Look For Jobs Outside the Company and Asking About the Best Way To Leave (cnbc.com) 114
An anonymous reader shares a report: Six former Facebook employees who left the company within the last two years told CNBC they've experienced a rise in contact from current company employees to inquire about opportunities or ask for job references. [...] The shift could be an early warning of recruiting and retention challenges for Facebook after a turbulent year. In 2018, the company has faced public questioning at multiple congressional hearings, scandals around third-party abuse of user data and public relations practicesand flat or declining user growth in key markets. It's also seen its stock drop nearly 40 percent from July. The stories from former employees are only anecdotal at this point, and there's no firm data showing a significant uptick in departures or employee dissatisfaction.
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Re:Stock almost halving didn't help (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, Zuckerberg is your idea of a leftist? His business philosophy is move so fast you outpace any problems you create. That's practically the left's stereotype of what's wrong with laissez-faire capitalism.
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Even that part you're mistaken about, because it's simply a facade.
Facebook (Score:1)
I don't use it and neither should anybody else.
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Especially since the founder literally said that people that use his own creation are "idiots." Considering they still use it, I guess it makes sense.
I believe you mean "dumb fucks" and not idiots.
https://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks
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Of all the stupid trolling comments being amplified on a day-to-day basis, this one I approve of. More people need to be reminded of this daily.
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Remember that time their app got caught accidentally ignoring key privacy settings?
Consider the possibility that wasn't an accident.
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Re:Facebook (Score:4)
Agreed. The only winning move is not to play.
Never had a Facebook account, never will.
I am interested however in what kind of "shadow" data they have on me. I wonder if there is a way to request that?
Wow that was short-lived (Score:3)
Facebook Employees Are Calling Former Colleagues To Look For Jobs Outside the Company and Asking About the Best Way To Leave
and in 4 sentences, lands on
The stories from former employees are only anecdotal at this point, and there's no firm data showing a significant uptick in departures or employee dissatisfaction.
These are TFAs that no one will read.
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Indeed. Non-news at its best. And still here we are, commenting. We do have better things to do.
Reminds me of Mobil Oil ... (Score:5, Insightful)
... in Dallas at the building with the Pegasus.
Back in the 90s there were rumours of pending layoffs in IT (didn't happen until 1.5 years later) and the best coders, on lunch break, walked across the street to Kodak; got hired on the spot and left with one day notice.
It was a fucking mess. I was a new hire in 1986 and could not pick up the slack from those who left.
I did continue to have coffee with the blokes and asked them how it was going.
Their reaction was that it didn't matter if the goddam mainframe supported a credit union, bank, hospital, film processor or the fucking oil patch.
Computers are computers. Data specific to the use case was not a big deal.
Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... (Score:4)
There is just nothing else out there for making discussion groups, pages, or creating events.
It's really sad that you think this is true. But I'm even more sad that I know this is a common opinion.
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Not everyone uses Mobil Oil ...
No one uses them. Exxon bought them out.
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SCHOOL IS IN SESSION
I'm in Southeast Texas, where there are more fucking oil refineries than Carter's got little liver pills.
I worked at Texaco down in Port Arthur, starting out in the canning factory. We offloaded boxcars full of, new cans for the conveyor belt leading up to the oil injectors.
The cans were labeled, Havoline, mostly, but we also got cans branded, "Philco," "Caltex," and languages I don't understand.
Exxon cans a shitload brands of oil. Mobil is one of them, but it's just a different paint jo
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When different-branded cans were filled by the same goddam oil injectors, just where did the extra molecules come from?
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No, we don't. I have never had a Facebook account, I never plan to have one and I never visit their site. On rare occasions I will get emails from a friend passing on something from there that I may need to know, but that's as close as I'm willing to get. Just because you can't imagine life without Facebook, doesn't mean that there aren't millions of us out there happily ignoring it and laughing at all you sheep.
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Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... (Score:5, Interesting)
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There is just nothing else out there for making discussion groups, pages, or creating events.
That is something idiots say and believe.
At my current employer, putting official events on third-party services is grounds for disciplinary action.
There are plenty of options for internal use depending on your needs for customization, support, and pricing.
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You're dating yourself.
https://www.theatlantic.com/te... [theatlantic.com]
Gist of that article is that teenagers have moved on from Facebook for event planning, since everybody and their mother is on there and can see (and interfere with) what they're planning. Instagram's the w
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Yes, but Facebook != Instagram.
Not everyone wants "broken" software (Score:2)
Computers are computers. Data specific to the use case was not a big deal.
Yes, but those two companies likely had similar development cultures. For example neither probably advocated moving so fast and testing so little that buggy ("broken") software was produced yet *tolerated*.
Many of these facebook employees searching for jobs may now find their utility to potential employers is less than that of an inexperienced recent grad. That their "move fast and break things" experience is considered detrimental and they have to be re-trained.
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Bullshit. The pathway among the top producers is well-lubricated.
They are all social media, VR, AI, blockchain, cloud, home assistants, and data whores.
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Oh, I worked at Kodak in the late '80s in backoffice stuff. That code was SO old and ravaged by the hordes of Mongol raiders of age that had been thru it, there were constant bugs to fix. I bet those Mobil employees had no trouble at Kodak.
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Moving from Mobil Oil to Kodak? What an incredibly prescient decision! I mean, considering their stock prices over time and all.
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Ironically, Kodak was the frog in the boiling water. They went under.
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-- Wernher von Braun
Give credit, you insensitive clod.
Got social media on your resume? (Score:2)
On how to report users.
Got shadow ban skills?
Can offer advanced censorship?
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Rule of thumb (Score:5, Insightful)
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Please speculate immediately.
Facebook needs to die (Score:1)
Re: Facebook needs to die (Score:1)
I always find it funny when people on here bitch about other social outlets. It's like some of you think the poo here smells of roses.
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Software development and Network infrastructure isn't free and is exceptionally costly.
Unless the software writes itself and the internet can support itself, a viable alternative will never appear.
Re: Facebook needs to die (Score:2)
"before it was purposely destroyed by spam"
I've often wondered who bankrolls the spam epidemic. It's obviously not self-sustaining, let alone profitable - yet it continues unabated.
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Spam exists because it is profitable for someone. Basically costs are externalized. The spammer pays almost nothing and the customer, if only a few hundred of the thousands or millions of spam emails garner a sucker from whom you can extort money, wins.
Never believe that people don't still fall for the Nigerian Prince scam. Idiot talk shows are full of people who have, many of whom still refuse to believe they've been taken.
You can never underestimate the intelligence of the intelligence of some people.
Duh (Score:3, Interesting)
The "best way to leave" is to leave. This really isn't difficult.
Unless, of course, you've built a lifestyle that depends on suckling on the Privacy-Destroying Big Intrusive Adware teat and desperately need someone else to overpay you to keep yourself in unnecessary Amazon Prime purchases. But nobody in the tech industry would be that naive.
stock manupulation? (Score:2)
Guess What FB employees? (Score:1)
I won't hire you because of your non existent ethics. You've stabbed an entire country in the back, and you think I ought to trust you?
This is news? (Score:2)
Everytime a co-worker left I'd drop them an email asking how they liked it, how much they made, were they happier, etc etc etc.
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Commenting to undo fat finger mod...
Yeah... nothing new here.
Evidence To The Contrary (Score:1)
My company recently ripped apart their UX team. Highly qualified and productive team, but the execs decided to shift directions. Several of those people landed at Facebook. They've reported that they are engaged in meaningful and challenging work, and a great overall work environment. So count me in with the doubters here.
Don't make that call (Score:2)
The ad company is always listening.
learn your lesson, Zuckerberg (Score:2)
As an influencer you may no longer concern yourself solely with greed. You've already demonstrated capacity to manipulate your users. The control we exercise through mass media is slipping, and it is imperative that this situation is corrected.
Therefore you must demonstrate a willingness to become a full partner, and faithfully exercise the responsibilities this requires. You will join the ranks of Alphabet and Twitter in serving this important purpose. If you do not, these attacks will continue, and have
wow at least 6...... (Score:2)
Isn't high employee turnover normal for Facebook? (Score:2)
I.e. it might be not about bad working conditions, or that something changed that makes more people want to leave, but that people go to Facebook, gain a few years of experience and then maybe launch a business on their own or with a few others or else switch to a somewhat more specialized posting.
I read an interview where someone stated that about google, that for most it's a goal to get there, but after a few years a stepping stone elsewhere.