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Facebook Employees Are Calling Former Colleagues To Look For Jobs Outside the Company and Asking About the Best Way To Leave (cnbc.com) 114

An anonymous reader shares a report: Six former Facebook employees who left the company within the last two years told CNBC they've experienced a rise in contact from current company employees to inquire about opportunities or ask for job references. [...] The shift could be an early warning of recruiting and retention challenges for Facebook after a turbulent year. In 2018, the company has faced public questioning at multiple congressional hearings, scandals around third-party abuse of user data and public relations practicesand flat or declining user growth in key markets. It's also seen its stock drop nearly 40 percent from July. The stories from former employees are only anecdotal at this point, and there's no firm data showing a significant uptick in departures or employee dissatisfaction.
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Facebook Employees Are Calling Former Colleagues To Look For Jobs Outside the Company and Asking About the Best Way To Leave

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    I don't use it and neither should anybody else.

    • why shouldn't I?
    • by Miser ( 36591 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @09:55AM (#57747002)

      Agreed. The only winning move is not to play.

      Never had a Facebook account, never will.

      I am interested however in what kind of "shadow" data they have on me. I wonder if there is a way to request that?

  • by BringsApples ( 3418089 ) on Monday December 03, 2018 @05:49PM (#57743396)
    I mean the summary, not FaceBook itself. It starts out

    Facebook Employees Are Calling Former Colleagues To Look For Jobs Outside the Company and Asking About the Best Way To Leave

    and in 4 sentences, lands on

    The stories from former employees are only anecdotal at this point, and there's no firm data showing a significant uptick in departures or employee dissatisfaction.

    These are TFAs that no one will read.

    • by tsa ( 15680 )

      Indeed. Non-news at its best. And still here we are, commenting. We do have better things to do.

  • by CaptainDork ( 3678879 ) on Monday December 03, 2018 @05:50PM (#57743400)

    ... in Dallas at the building with the Pegasus.

    Back in the 90s there were rumours of pending layoffs in IT (didn't happen until 1.5 years later) and the best coders, on lunch break, walked across the street to Kodak; got hired on the spot and left with one day notice.

    It was a fucking mess. I was a new hire in 1986 and could not pick up the slack from those who left.

    I did continue to have coffee with the blokes and asked them how it was going.

    Their reaction was that it didn't matter if the goddam mainframe supported a credit union, bank, hospital, film processor or the fucking oil patch.

    Computers are computers. Data specific to the use case was not a big deal.

    • Computers are computers. Data specific to the use case was not a big deal.

      Yes, but those two companies likely had similar development cultures. For example neither probably advocated moving so fast and testing so little that buggy ("broken") software was produced yet *tolerated*.

      Many of these facebook employees searching for jobs may now find their utility to potential employers is less than that of an inexperienced recent grad. That their "move fast and break things" experience is considered detrimental and they have to be re-trained.

      • Bullshit. The pathway among the top producers is well-lubricated.

        They are all social media, VR, AI, blockchain, cloud, home assistants, and data whores.

      • Yes, but those two companies likely had similar development cultures. For example neither probably advocated moving so fast and testing so little that buggy ("broken") software was produced yet *tolerated*.

        Oh, I worked at Kodak in the late '80s in backoffice stuff. That code was SO old and ravaged by the hordes of Mongol raiders of age that had been thru it, there were constant bugs to fix. I bet those Mobil employees had no trouble at Kodak.

    • Moving from Mobil Oil to Kodak? What an incredibly prescient decision! I mean, considering their stock prices over time and all.

  • Expect to find ads for work to push ads.
    On how to report users.
    Got shadow ban skills?
    Can offer advanced censorship?
    • Most ad work these days include a major component of statistical data analysis in the context of business intelligence which is highly sought after. The funny thing is that the actual experts are the folks who are working as contractors at Facebook (FB), these are the folks are usually the types looking for new jobs. It's really interesting regarding the dynamic between Full Time Employees (FTE) and contractors. A lot of the FTEs at FB managing their contractors don't have a good grasp of
  • Rule of thumb (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Locke2005 ( 849178 ) on Monday December 03, 2018 @05:59PM (#57743446)
    Every mass exodus starts with the most qualified, most valuable employees, and continues to the lesser and lesser qualified ones. It takes the most qualified people less time to find another job! Eventually, all that are left are the incompetents... Yahoo!
  • And when it finally does die, I am going to shout out in happiness. Thankfully, I am now 13 months free from that monstrous nightmare.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      I always find it funny when people on here bitch about other social outlets. It's like some of you think the poo here smells of roses.

  • Duh (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 03, 2018 @06:02PM (#57743470)

    The "best way to leave" is to leave. This really isn't difficult.

    Unless, of course, you've built a lifestyle that depends on suckling on the Privacy-Destroying Big Intrusive Adware teat and desperately need someone else to overpay you to keep yourself in unnecessary Amazon Prime purchases. But nobody in the tech industry would be that naive.

  • How else you call creating a national story based on infromation from 6 employees? Did they even pick them at random? Who did benefit from running this story?
  • by Anonymous Coward

    I won't hire you because of your non existent ethics. You've stabbed an entire country in the back, and you think I ought to trust you?

  • Everytime I left a job I'd get 3-4 co-workers asking me how I liked it, how much I made, was I happier, etc etc etc.

    Everytime a co-worker left I'd drop them an email asking how they liked it, how much they made, were they happier, etc etc etc.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    My company recently ripped apart their UX team. Highly qualified and productive team, but the execs decided to shift directions. Several of those people landed at Facebook. They've reported that they are engaged in meaningful and challenging work, and a great overall work environment. So count me in with the doubters here.

  • near one of the open mic collection devices.
    The ad company is always listening.
  • As an influencer you may no longer concern yourself solely with greed. You've already demonstrated capacity to manipulate your users. The control we exercise through mass media is slipping, and it is imperative that this situation is corrected.

    Therefore you must demonstrate a willingness to become a full partner, and faithfully exercise the responsibilities this requires. You will join the ranks of Alphabet and Twitter in serving this important purpose. If you do not, these attacks will continue, and have

  • wow at least 6 former employees told CNB........ of the 34,000 employees at facebook.... It's not very uncommon for people to ask others to keep a look out. This isn't any news, this is just media exaggerating something that really isn't a thing.
  • I.e. it might be not about bad working conditions, or that something changed that makes more people want to leave, but that people go to Facebook, gain a few years of experience and then maybe launch a business on their own or with a few others or else switch to a somewhat more specialized posting.

    I read an interview where someone stated that about google, that for most it's a goal to get there, but after a few years a stepping stone elsewhere.

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