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One Year Later, Restaurants Are Still Confused By Google Duplex (theverge.com) 30

An anonymous reader shares an excerpt from a report via The Verge: Google Duplex was arguably one of Google's biggest announcements in 2018, but the AI faded into the background this week at the same I/O developer conference that introduced it just one year ago. Rather than an update on how the AI has been improved since its official release, Google CEO Sundar Pichai simply noted that the technology has gotten "great feedback," then he quickly moved on to announce that Duplex would be coming to the web -- no human impersonation necessary. Instead of the stunning voice-calling AI that garnered a mix of excitement and ethical criticism, Duplex is now also a fancy autofill tool that helps move you through a webpage to quickly reserve movie tickets and car rentals.

But Google's machines don't seem to be taking over yet. As the U.S. continues to deal with an onslaught of spammy robocalls, it seems that many restaurant employees are inadvertently shielding themselves from Duplex by ignoring incoming calls that do not display a person's name. Mark Seaman, a manager at two-year-old restaurant Queens Bully, in Forest Hills, New York, says he often tries to avoid calls from businesses that look like they could be pitching the restaurant on a product or service. "Most of our growth comes from our own social media efforts and the parties we throw," Seaman tells me. "We get calls all the time from people trying to sell us something [we don't need]." Although Google does not personally call businesses to convince them to buy ads, it stands to reason why many restaurant employees would shy away from answering calls that list the company in its caller ID in the first place. [...] One year later, Duplex is still limited and, at least for now, has minimal impact on service workers aside from occasionally freaking them out, but there is perhaps an unintended byproduct of AI replacing humans: politeness.

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One Year Later, Restaurants Are Still Confused By Google Duplex

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  • by Waffle Iron ( 339739 ) on Thursday May 09, 2019 @08:04PM (#58566760)

    Why not just spoof the caller ID to look like a real person from the restaurant's local area?

    Everyone else is doing it.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Scammers get away with spoofing because they are operating shady orgs with no accountability.

      If Google did it lawyers would be foaming at the mouth for all the class action money they would make whilst fucking the consumer.

    • by Jeremi ( 14640 )

      Perhaps it is time to come up with some sort of enforceable authentication system for phone calls.

      For example, as a busy restaurant worker who has to decide whether it's worth my while to listen to a robot on the phone or not, I'd like it my phone could reliably tell me that (a) the "person" calling is from a (more or less) known/trusted source (such as Google Duplex, and not Nigerian Scam Center), and (b) that a certain minimum deposit has already been committed to hold the reservation (which can be later

  • AI is done (Score:4, Informative)

    by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Thursday May 09, 2019 @08:11PM (#58566776) Homepage Journal

    People are starting to realize that AI is complete bullshit. Autonomous driving, "smart" assistants, etc. It will never happen. We can barely even make conventional software that is stable. There is no indication that AI is even possible.

  • by MrLogic17 ( 233498 ) on Thursday May 09, 2019 @08:46PM (#58566842) Journal

    Many (most?) businesses that take reservations or online orders have a web site to do that. Having a machine call by voice seems... inefficient.

    It's a bit like using a fax instead of E-Mail.

    In the case of a number with an automated attendant (press 1 to place an order), you have a machine talking to a machine - using a human voice protocol. It's quite probably the slowest, most error-prone method possible.

    • Many (most?) businesses that take reservations or online orders have a web site to do that. Having a machine call by voice seems... inefficient.

      It's a bit like using a fax instead of E-Mail.

      In the case of a number with an automated attendant (press 1 to place an order), you have a machine talking to a machine - using a human voice protocol. It's quite probably the slowest, most error-prone method possible.

      Well ... the one possible advantage I can see is that it's the monkey wrench of tools. No matter what online booking tools a restaurant has, it's still going to allow people to call and do stuff.

      If it could really reliably simulate human voice interaction, I can see the usefulness of that.

      Same justification as for humanoid robots; our human world is built for humans. Build something that can act like a human and it can just step right in. Sure, you could purpose build stuff to be more efficient, but there

  • And the presenter there said his biggest current AI security concern was overseas hackers using Duplex for social engineering. Foreign hackers will no longer need to find members with a good American accent and cultural understanding to try to socially infiltrate a network. They'll just have Duplex do it for them. It was interesting to hear someone have an "unintended consequence" viewpoint on it, especially one pertaining to cybersecurity.

  • by thesjaakspoiler ( 4782965 ) on Thursday May 09, 2019 @08:51PM (#58566864)
    After ditching : Google Answers Google Deskbar, Writely.Dodgeball, Video MArketplace, Video Player, Click-to-call,Related Links, Zeitgeist, Web Accelerator, Page Creator, Lively, Send to Phone, Web Accelerator, Browser Sync Gello, SearchMach, Ride Finder, Audio Ads, Shared Stuff, On2 Flix Cloud, Mashup Editor, Toolbar for Firefox, Google Gears, GOOG-411, SearchWiki, Marrtech e-Meeting, Living Stories, Goole Base, Google Fast Flip, Sidewiki, Google Desktop, Google Labs, Google Dictionary, Aardvark, Google Notebook, Google Buzz, Google Squared, Slide.com, Fflick, Google Rebang, Apture, Google Body, Script Converter, Noop, Real Estate - Gmans, Google Sets, Google Blog Search, Google PowerMeter, Gizmo5, Google Hotpot, Google Apps (Free), Google Fast Flip, Google Directory, Sparrow, Code Search, Urchin, Google Jaiku, Picnik, Knol, Google Health, Google Video, Google Wave, GTalk Chatback, Google Chart API, Google Sky Map, Friend Connect, Google Mini, Insights for Search, Website Optimizer, Google Tv Ads, Nexus Q, Building Maker, Google Latitude, Google Checkout, iGoogle, Google Reader, Google Currents, Cloud Connect, Meebo, Orkut, Questions&Answers, Google Wifi, Google Schemer, SlickLogin, BufferBox, Bump!, quickOffice, GoogleTV, Youtube My Speed, Chrome Frame, WildFire Interactive, Google Notifier, google Moderator, Helpouts by Google, Google Catalogs, Android @ Home, GDrive Hosting, Google Earth API, BebaPay, Flu Trends, Timeful, Google Play Edition ,Google Glass, Project Ara, Panoramio, Google Code, Picasa, Hangsouts on Air, Freebase, MyTracks, Google Swiffy, Google showtimes, Pie.co, Google Now, Nexus Player, Google Compare, Google Maps Engine, Singza, Revolv, Google Nexus, Google Tango, Google Sapces, Google Talk, Google Portfolios, Hands Free, Trendalyzer, Glass OS, Chromebook Pixel, Android Nearby, Tez, Google Goggles, Save to Chrome, Encrypted Search, QPX Express API, Chrome Apps, Google site Search, News & Weather, Reply, GSA, Fabric, Fusion Tablesm Inbox by GMail, Google+, goo.gl, Google Allo, YT Annotations, Chromecast Audio why am I not surprised to see another bloated project on it's way to it's final resting place?
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Aren't all the Duplex calls recorded and run afoul of state laws prohibiting third party recording of calls without notification to all parties involved? I don't see how they're going to get around that unless at the beginning of the call Duplex announces its recording to the other party.

    • by mcmonkey ( 96054 )

      Aren't all the Duplex calls recorded and run afoul of state laws prohibiting third party recording of calls without notification to all parties involved? I don't see how they're going to get around that

      That is an issue...

      ...unless at the beginning of the call Duplex announces its recording to the other party.

      Oh, so you do see how they're going to get around that issue.

  • Sigh. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ledow ( 319597 ) on Friday May 10, 2019 @02:48AM (#58567684) Homepage

    1) AI is bunk. It's not. To paraphrase Arthur C. Clarke it's "sufficiently advanced technology indistinguishable from magic". Except... it's not advanced enough. It looks really convincing, until you ask it anything out of the ordinary scope, where it fails to cope spectacularly.
    2) If you want to book a restaurant, and it's 2019, and they don't have online booking via OpenTable or similar... give it up. Honestly, it's not going to work for you and they won't know how to deal with that kind of robot, and the robot won't know how to respond to them. They will also, once they realise what it is, stop taking calls from it anyway. It's probably also a bad idea to provide such an interface to them, because that will give them even less reason to get into the 21st Century.
    3) I can think of no reason why I'd want to have a computer speak like a human, to another human, on my behalf. Except possibly for fraudulent purposes. And I'm absolutely useless at speaking to new people, and will do everything I possibly can to avoid having to phone somewhere (literally all my service-providers that I use in my personal life are electronic, online, and with as little human interaction as possible.. from my bank account to my energy supplier, ISP to mobile phone, tax payment to passport renewal).

    It's a solution in search of a problem, and pretty much nobody has a problem booking a restaurant.

  • by fluffernutter ( 1411889 ) on Friday May 10, 2019 @05:19AM (#58567950)
    Now I'm laughing at all the people who said, "a restaurant would NEVER ignore a call, it means losing business!" in the last article about Duplex.
  • Why the US is allowing robocalls in the first place. A single law that prohibited them with heavy fines would stop them all in an instant. I live in a country where it is even possible to opt out of human-based seller calls. It works and is very effective. Is the US politicians really THAT corrupt?
    • by Anonymous Coward

      It wouldn't matter what laws you make because making a law doesn't change people's behavior. it's the first step of justifying a strategy of enforcement the overtime shapes the culture and the shaping people's motivations.
      In us culture that values selfish gain and profit above all other values, people will continue to bypass accountability and thus make any fine irrelevant

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