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Spider-Man Returns To the Marvel Cinematic Universe (hollywoodreporter.com) 40

Posted by msmash from the back-in-business dept.
After briefly breaking up, Sony Pictures and Marvel have found a way to get back in the Spider-Man business together. From a report: Their new film even has a release date: July 16, 2021. "I am thrilled that Spidey's journey in the MCU will continue, and I and all of us at Marvel Studios are very excited that we get to keep working on it," said Marvel topper Kevin Feige. "Spider-Man is a powerful icon and hero whose story crosses all ages and audiences around the globe. He also happens to be the only hero with the superpower to cross cinematic universes, so as Sony continues to develop their own Spidey-verse you never know what surprises the future might hold."

Also, as part of the arrangement, Spider-Man will appear in a future Marvel movie. In 2015, Marvel and Sony unveiled an unprecedented intra-studio partnership that produced not only two well-regarded and massive hits with Spider-Man: Homecoming and this summer's Spider-Man: Far From Home, but it also took the character, whose movie rights are owned by Sony, and put him into the Marvel Cinematic Universe where the character became one of its key players. But the co-parenting deal fell apart not too long after the release of Far From Home, spilling into the open in August.
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  • I lost the over / under on the number of weeks that this would take. I had a few more months of speculation. Thought that the studios would milk this much longer.

    • Re:Time (Score:5, Interesting)

      by hey! ( 33014 ) on Friday September 27, 2019 @11:10AM (#59243026) Homepage Journal

      In a nutshell, both sides are playing a zero-sum round in a plus-sum game. They both stand to make more money working together, but want to grab as much of that surplus for themselves as they can.

      • Also in terms of story it is a sensitive time for Marvel and Sony in terms of their stories.
        After End Game, a lot of story arcs were wrapped up, many of its most popular characters have their plots ended. Much of the Spider Mans plot points are centered around the consequences from the Avengers actions. Far From Home could be a start in a new phase in the Marvel Universe or a Prologue to it. With them splitting over this one IP right, could kill both franchises, unless very clever retcon can be made to th

        • > Also Sony has the Spider Man 3 curse.

          Care to share details on that?

          Thanks!

          • Spider-Man was hugely profitable.
            Spider-Man 2 was decently profitable.
            Spider-Man 3 was barely profitable (and likely written off as a loss due to Hollywood accounting).

            The Amazing Spider-Man was barely profitable.
            The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was a big flop.
            The Amazing Spider-Man 3 was shitcanned.
            The Amazing Spider-Man 4 was shitcanned.

            Homecoming and Far From Home both did well. Farm From Home was shit, though, and I don't think audiences want more Spidey for a while.
            Disney wants Spidey desperately, however, as

            • Spider-Man 3 was barely profitable (and likely written off as a loss due to Hollywood accounting).

              Spider-Man 3 was always funny to me in that audience reaction to it was kind of "Eh, I didn't like that very much." But morphed into the entire internet declaring "My dick is the biggest, no one hates Spiderman3 more than me and it is the worst thing ever made than anything in all of human history." It was a not good movie with a lot of dumb stuff in it and several cringy times. But holy shit why is everyone jerking off together about how it was the worst thing ever made? It was bad.... but there's wors

            • The thing that gets me is that in Far From Home,
              half of the beings in the universe disappear
              as a "the blip", then reappear when Endgame happens.

              But the whole point of Endgame was to go back in
              time to before Thanos got the jewels and kill him,
              preventing the "blip" from happening in the first place.
        • Comment removed based on user account deletion

        • Graeme McMillan of The Hollywood Reporter has described a few possible retcons Marvel can use in "How Marvel Can Solve Its Spider-Man Problem in One Movie" [hollywoodreporter.com].

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by bigpat ( 158134 )

        In a nutshell, both sides are playing a zero-sum round in a plus-sum game. They both stand to make more money working together, but want to grab as much of that surplus for themselves as they can.

        Big downside risk to delaying a deal. Scripts being rewritten, characters being left out of movies. Marvel has a good thing going and so far they have done real well with minimal recasts of characters. Keeping the story arcs as entertaining and interesting as possible without the downside distractions.

        It makes the absolute most sense from a storytelling perspective to keep Spider-Man going in the Marvel universe at least as long as Tom Holland is in the role.

        Unfortunately there is a age component of the

      • In a nutshell, the entire thing was a publicity stunt to keep people talking about the MCU now that it's dead.

    • They were both getting a lot of bad press and ill-will. I heard some long time MCU fans say something to the effect of "Far from home is a good end cap for the MCU. Remove continuity and any further movies will be like the Star Wars Prequels; technically canon, but not worth watching" This might win them back since it's a quick turnaround. Frankly, it was stupid to go public with the previous deal as early as they did.
  • Money talks bs walks. Both sides knew they could make way mire money together rather then apart!
    • If there is one thing you can absolutely rely on in this world, it's greed.

    • What's with the cynicism? Disney and Sony are about making great art, not formulaic cash grabs and toy marketing.

          Shame on you!

  • Bring Venom with him. And while we're at it, Ryan Reynolds is just sitting on his ass, loan him out for the Carnage movie, hell, bring Deadpool's roommate and the cab driver for substance!
  • Every appearance of Iron Man, Cap, Thor, etc... in Spider-Man adds another 5% to ticket sales.

  • Peter Griffin comment https://i.imgur.com/umKXQLx.pn... [imgur.com]

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by godrik ( 1287354 )

      yeah, who cares about Spiderman? Slashdot is news for nerds afterall! Tell me more about president Trump!

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Cylix ( 55374 )

        Well....

        Did you know he was going to be impeached for reason of the week?

        Something something something collusions... russians... ukraine... and other country.

        It isn't really important why, but the feels! Oh the feels.

        Should we talk about other topics like how the world will end in 12 years due to pollution?

  • Buyout (Score:2, Funny)

    by Ryanrule ( 1657199 )
    I really though Sony entertainment was just trying to get bought out. But maybe Disney doesn’t want to own that many Adam Sandler films.
  • Let me guess, the new Spiderman is a fat Hispanic lesbian

  • intra-studio

    That would mean a project one by one studio, cooperating with itself. There isn't much unique about such an effort. Likely the person who wrote this summary meant inter-studio.

  • 24 comments after 4 hours: apathy killed spiderman (Score:3)

    by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ) on Friday September 27, 2019 @03:17PM (#59244282)
    I think it's safe to say that hardly anyone gives a flying squirrel about Spider-whatnot anymore. The Spiderman character jumped the shark (between dramatic death and super suit) in Avengers IW/E and the "Spiderverse" thing mined (successfully) the remaining fun in the core fanbase.

    Now that the golden age of comic book movies has concluded (or will soon depending if you include Joker in that), how about putting a couple of these top brands on a shelf for a while and working on a couple of new, non-ensemble characters until the world's ready for the inevitable reboot?

    • You're using quantity of Slashdot comments, in 2019, as an indicator of the mainstream popularity of something.

      Are you high?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Cylix ( 55374 )

      If they hadn't made a bunch of garbage in the last few years more people might care.

      Someday Hollywood might consider why viewership has bombed and ratings are up only to discover their pockets are less full. Everyone else kinda worked around the problem and moved on.

      • If they hadn't made a bunch of garbage in the last few years more people might care.

        Someday Hollywood might consider why viewership has bombed and ratings are up only to discover their pockets are less full. Everyone else kinda worked around the problem and moved on.

        Except that Marvel has been the one movie making franchise that has bucked the trend and made mega bucks. You may hate the movies, but they are a critical success. You take out the MCU and the movie industry looks like its dead on arrival.

      • If they hadn't made a bunch of garbage in the last few years more people might care.

        By making garbage you mean making the most popular spideman franchise to date most recently clocking over $1.1bn in the boxoffice? People are voting with their wallets, and clearly they care.

    • I think it's safe to say that hardly anyone gives a flying squirrel about Spider-whatnot anymore.

      Really?
      Spider Man Far from Home (2019) Boxoffice: $1,130,548,094
      Spider Man Homecoming (2017) Boxoffice: $880,166,924
      The Amazing Spiderman 2 (2014) Boxoffice: $708,982,323
      The Amazing Spiderman (2012) Boxoffice: $757,930,6

      The only thing that is truly safe to say is that *we* give more flying squirrels (interesting currency unit) about Spider-whatnot than we ever have in the past.

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