'Hyperstealth' Invisibility Cloak Developed For Military Use (futurism.com) 113
Freshly Exhumed shares a report from Futurism: Canada's Hyperstealth Biotechnology already manufactures camouflage uniforms for militaries across the globe. But now, the company has patented a new "Quantum Stealth" material that disguises a military's soldiers -- or even its tanks, aircraft, and ships -- by making anything behind it seem invisible. Earlier in October, Hyperstealth filed a patent for the material, which doesn't require a power source and is both paper-thin and inexpensive -- all traits that could make it appealing for use on the battlefield. Alongside the news of the patent application, Hyperstealth released more than 100-minutes worth of footage describing and demonstrating the material.
Nothing to see here... (Score:4, Funny)
Already been done (Score:5, Funny)
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Nonsense, those are just the feature films. We've never really stopped fighting in the forest and jungles as well. The upcoming headline is China and that certainly isn't desert terrain.
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They did it once, but you're probably too young to remember it: 1979, the Sino-Vietnamese War.
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Your nation, like you, is lying and simply choosing to ignore their treaties that they have signed.
Trying to claim the south chinese sea when it has NEVER been yours.
Worse, Your nation continues to try to steal water from India, land from India, Pakistan, and a number of other nations in South East Asia.
Your nation has invaded NUMEROUS neighbors which is why not a single one of them, trust you.
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The American Army used the Hemp fields in Afghanistan to camouflage their tanks quite effectively.
You think that's what they were doing? Then why were they sending smoke signals? O:-)
Re:Already been done (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah. That's totally why we are sitting in here, dude.
What you see there is our smoke screen, by the way.
Got any spare MREs?
Fresnel (Score:5, Insightful)
Fresnel called and asked for his lens back if we are going to use it like this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/black... [reddit.com]
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How useful is it for military applications anyway? Aren't most weapons guided by things other than visible light these days?
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Computers are guided by sensors, loop back to Amimojo's question, what are the sensors sensing?
At least one of the things they are sensing is heat and various flavors of IR which he demonstrates. People are quick to shit on this and it is a bit sensationalized as an invisibility cloak but it seems like it does a fair job compared to camo to me especially when you consider it works in all terrains and can work with uv/ir as well. Even the Predator didn't have perfect invisibility. In IR/UV systems the blurri
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Well, here is a video of a US soldier wearing an early version of such clothing on the combat field, it's better if you watch it at 0.25 speed (slow motion):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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The weapons are not guided by light. But the person choosing the target is.
Drones, Aircraft, Satellite...
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J.J. Abrams called and wants his lens flares back...
I am surprised there wasn't any star wipes in those videos...
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The idea is not new at all and has been extensively used in "Wackelbilder" throughout the 80's and 90's. I am not sure what the proper English name for that is. But you probably have seen those small pictures with a plastic sheet over them. When you flip them one angle you see one picture, if you flip them another angle you see something different, often used to give the pictures the illusion of motio
Awe! (Score:1)
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic", Arthur C. Clarke.
This is insane. This guy deserves the Nobel prize at least something similar.
Early Days (Score:1)
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That usually means they've decided not to use it but they want the enemy to think they are.
Military use? (Score:2)
Military use? Oh noes!
And here I would have thought it would be developed for ... I dunno, selfies without the self in them?
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Overengineered solution for the cameras they are building into everything these days.
Re:Military use? (Score:4, Interesting)
Actually seems like it would have promise as a shower curtain replacement.
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Hah, that was my first thought as well.
Blocks shapes, but lets all the light through, it's better than the standard "frosted" vinyl curtains, that's for sure.
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Yup, seems like even when you get too close and you can see through it is no worse than frosted glass
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Personally, I want to buy this stuff to put in front of LED strip lights to merge all the little dots of light into a nice solid line. It looks like this would work better than any of the diffusers currently on the market.
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This opens up a whole new world of possibilities for the Republicans. Now they can put an invisible guy on the podium with Trump who tazers him whenever he's about to say something stupid.
Can you buy tazers that run off the mains? Because there's no battery large enough for that number of uses.
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Not an issue, even if he says something positive or that makes perfect sense Stephen Colbert just repeats it with a scrunch face and an idiot impression as if it were incredibly stupid. "If we can just sit down we can come together and come up with a fair solution for immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship." Colbert repeats as if this were the most idiotic and horrible thing for a President to say when trying to bring both parties to the table for a bipartisan compromise to a hot ongoing iss
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> a large number of false experiences create the wrong impression. people today including well known journalists still think sarah palin said "i can see russia from my house" when actually tina fey said it.
Now the News is doing that and passing it off as legit. The New York Times [nytimes.com] just stealth edited one of their articles about Clinton saying Tulsi Gabbard was being "groomed by the Russians" to be "groomed by the Republicans". No notification. No editors note on article. The transcript [politifact.com] with which the arti
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“They’re our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska”
The question she was responding to was stupid, or at least stupidly phrased, and probably deserves mos of the scorn. But the implication in the answer is that she has some amount of expertise in international affairs simply because Alaska is near Russia, which is objectively stupid. She was unqualified, and it was another of many bullet points to that effect.
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"But the implication in the answer is that she has some amount of expertise in international affairs simply because Alaska is near Russia"
That is a complete lack of philosophical charity. The implication is that as governor of Alaska there are political issues that came up on a regular basis which involved interacting with Russian politicians. That is probably true. There are disputes with regard to fishing, mineral rights claims, possibly military vessels pushing the lines which involve both the Alaskan go
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You'll be glad to see that the article does now include a 'Correction' at the bottom.
You may still disagree with their rationale.
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> You'll be glad to see that the article does now include a 'Correction' at the bottom.
Makes me wonder how many stealthy corrections get unnoticed. However, I am glad they made a note saying they changed the original article. Ethical journalism seems to take a backseat to clickbait and narrative.
>You may still disagree with their rationale.
Honestly, it just seems like more Correct The Record spin readying the Chosen one for the final trilogy of Return of the Clinton.
I am seeing more and more articles
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Exactly. Another interesting and disheartening thing is a way that even with having chosen examples from different camps throughout the political spectrum many will see you as attacking their team and therefore as part of the other team.
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Colbert can be a little cliquey, but mostly you're just missing some context.
In those cases, the joke is generally that what he's saying is either completely at odds with his behavior, or completely off-topic for the speech he's supposed to be giving. Bragging about your inaugural crowd size at a rally makes sense. Bragging about your inaugural crowd size in a speech to the CIA is weird and off-topic. Talking about a need to ease political tension and give Americans a sense of unity is normal. Doing it whil
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When this is all over, I want you to write the history of Trump's time in office.
Camo trousers (Score:2)
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army surplus stores walking around with invisible legs
That is, if the shop assistants can remember where they put the invisible clothing.
Yes, we have invisibility clothes ..... but we can't find them.
Re: Camo trousers (Score:1)
Blurry plastic (Score:2)
Obligatory Tommy Cooper Joke (Score:3)
"Went to buy some camouflage trousers yesterday. Couldn't find any"
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He was a stand-up comic, renowned for short simple jokes like that. Recognised as one of the top comedians of the television era.
Died on stage during a live TV broadcast.
Why can you see the chair rail? (Score:1)
Why can you still see the chair rail behind the film? Does it not make chair rail invisible?
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It probably is just another light diffuser sheet and the grooves run horizontally. Looks cool though, but I'm not sure how it differs from anything else.
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One good use for it is properly disguising vehicles or a lack thereof in open vehicle bays. The bay will appear empty even if it's not. Back in the day you couldn't deceive to that extent with a matte painting as it would be obvious with a few viewings that it was a matte painting - like at different times of the day, the lighting would show it to be a painting of the area. This material will change what is being shown as the light to the area changes, making it much more effective for camouflage. It's
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Seems like (i'm over simplifying) a polarized Fresnel lens. think like a fun house mirror, you can distort a particular direction, possibly to the point of making a vertical object thin enough to be un-observable.
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and it will let horizontal patterns through
Horizontal patterns. Like tanks, planes, ships, etc. And marines not sleeping standing at attention.
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tower this is ghost rider requesting a flyby (Score:2)
tower this is ghost rider requesting a flyby
I would be more impressed (Score:2)
if they demonstrated camouflage clothing or making something akin to Wonder Woman's invisible plane.
Everything shown here had the "material" placed in a meter or so in front or above the object and was rigid.
As a kid, I had a large fresnel lens that demonstrated similar behavior. If they showed this wrapped around an object, like a crash test dummy (or a living person), a car, or even a model aircraft, I'd be more apt to believe they may be on to something.
For now, it's intriguing but not a national asset
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... they do show it wrapped around objects. I guess you didn't watch far enough into the (terribly made) video?
They also have two different variants, each with their own strengths and weaknesses.
It's clearly no "sci-fi invisibility cloak". But it's honestly IMHO better than I expected - especially after seeing how terrible the quality on the site and video was.
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what does this fix? (Score:2)
scout: hey there is this large sheet with probably like a tank behind it
cmdr: k lets just bomb the whole area
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Oh it was just a decoy. Lets go to the next area. Oh look a big army, and we are out of bombs.
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Not sure if this is vapourware.. (Score:2)
Not sure if this is vapourware or if they are hiding behind their products.
But yeah, looks like a fresnel lens. Not suspicious at all if you fly over it and you can notice the change..
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To be fair, it isn't about hiding the fact that something is there, it is about hiding the nature of the thing that is there.
In one of the videos, a sheet is draped over a model of a tank with halogen lights overhead pointing down at it.
From above, it is clear that something is there, but you cannot see any shadows to give away what is below the sheet.
So, he's invented the scramble suit? (Score:2)
Or the shower door?
Quantum... Really? (Score:2)
So I guess those "changing image" pictures (like in a happy meal) where you move your head side-to-side to change the picture are "Quantum image changers"!
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When do we get to see it? (Score:2)
I can't wait to "see" it!!!
The war on ants! (Score:1)
MAD? (Score:2)
Pretty cool (Score:5, Informative)
I just watched the entire demo video and I don't understand the grumbling in the comments here. It's extremely cool stuff.
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I think everyone wants magic invisibility. It seems like most things, it's been hyperbolically sold but I'm sure there are some specific applications (certain windows?), etc - where this might be very useful.
Cool and lame at the same time.
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I completely agree! I normally get super annoyed when people claim they've invented invisibility cloaks or even spacetime cloaks when a cardboard box does the same thing. But, if you just ignore the name as marketing (there's nothing "quantum" about it) it is really cool.
Just watch the video at 10:08. The "tube" sure is blurry and doesn't look natural at all but it also looks really empty. I was positively surprised for once! I'm not sure it will find applications but it is a cool presentation.
https://vimeo [vimeo.com]
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A camera would work, or later in the video he suggests perforating the sheet to provide a view outside. I think I prefer the camera option.
If you want to take the video in 15 second increments, here are the timestamps for the high points.
1:10 Visible light, interior environment
3:20 NVG IR
4:25 Riot Shield, complex interior environment
5:15 NVG UV
10:12 360 degree coverage
14:50 V1 vs V2 material, hiding a hummer (30 seconds).
https://vimeo.com/356973482 [vimeo.com]
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Watched the video?! You realize that is equivalent to having RTFA, right? Please turn in your Slashdot card on the way out.
Agree (Score:2)
I agree absolutely, Slashdot has become a techish-hipster smartarse comment forum, with little consideration for the actual value (or not) of the content.
This really is very interesting. It would be most interesting to know the mechanics and limitations of it.
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The stuff is really cool, yes! I want to buy it to use as a light diffuser for LED lights right now, and I think it would be neat as privacy film or to reduce glare from a skylight.
Most of the military uses are a bit silly, though. If you can hide stuff behind a big shiny fence or under a big shiny tent, you can hide those things just as well behind an opaque fence or under an opaque tent, made of materials that are cheaper and already available - plus you won't become visible to snipers when you accidental
So... (Score:2)
...it's a giant fancy lens that refracts light around whatever is in the focal point behind it?
Doesn't seem particularly useful, and makes things about "invisible" as my shower door does.
Holy whining, batman! (Score:2)
Who writes this crap? (Score:2)
But now, the company has patented a new "Quantum Stealth" material
I question anyone using the word 'Quantum' to describe a device that does NOT work at a quantum level.
... that disguises a military's soldiers -- or even its tanks, aircraft, and ships -- by making anything behind it seem invisible.
Wouldn't it make more sense to make the soldier/tank/ship invisible, rather than the objects behind it?
pointless (Score:2)
the old 3d photo vertical lense trick (Score:1)
dispute this patent (Score:1)
Tom & Jerry (Score:2)
Wasn't this invented back in the 1950s?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Shower curtain (Score:1)
I guess it would make for a decent shower curtain for shy women.
blocks both ways (Score:1)
Re:Not hard to see (Score:5, Informative)
The video shows it blocking IR
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Re:Not hard to see (Score:5, Funny)
There are better options than any of these unimpressive, expensive military techs: How Not To Be Seen [youtube.com]
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Modern military tactics prefer pinpoint precision, with minimal necessary force.
If your military is just very blurry. then your opponent doesn't really know your numbers and your precise location. So they have figure out the following.
1. Is this blob of an Army much larger then me where if I try to attack I will be overrun.
2. Is this blob of an Army smaller then me, but I will need to use a lot of resources to hit them.
3. If I were to attack, what would be the best strategy to do so? As precise locations w
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You can get the same or better benefits by building an opaque fence of the same size around your military post.
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Amazon has a documentary called "Ghost Army". It covered the same tactics used by the Allied forces during WWII.
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So? (Score:3)