The Men Who Try to Hack Tinder To Score Hotter Women (melmagazine.com) 172
Aggrieved that their matches aren't "quality" enough, some men share techniques to cheat the dating app's algorithm and raise their status. An anonymous reader shares a report: Like most apps that have a pay function, the easiest path to a better Tinder experience is with cash. Super Likes, according to the app, will triple your chances of getting a match as they're a manual override of the algorithm, forcing you to the head of someone's swipe queue. You still have to earn a right swipe, but the person is all but guaranteed to see your profile. Then, of course, there's the various DIY swipe combos and techniques, like my friend's, that people are convinced will result in better matches. "I cracked Tinder," redditor joikol exclaimed on the Tinder subreddit a year ago [sic throughout]. "I had cracked how to not only get the hottest girls to appear, but also how to make my profile appear on their Tinder. The trick: for every girl you like, reject 5 girls. Or, in simple terms, have very high standards for liking girls. The Tinder algorithm will see that you're not satisfied with the lot you've gotten and improve its delivery. It will also think that you're some hotshot and make you appear more on girls' Tinder."
But alas, he continued, "Then I realized that this strategy was a fail because when you do this, you need to be 11/10 as well. The hot girls won't swipe right on you, and the average ones won't be available as you swipe left on them." Two other popular alleged algorithm hacks: 1. Resetting your account (especially via a Google number or burner phone), since Tinder gives new users a first-day boost. (This can definitely backfire, though, since it's something Tinder knows people are doing and punishes them for it with a shadowban.) 2. Changing your location or expanding your geographical range. "I used to have it so that my distance was like 200 kilometers and then leave it like that for a few hours," says 24-year-old Kelly from Canada. "Then I'd change it back to 10-kilometers distance. I'd immediately get a ton of guys who were 10 kilometers away swiping right on me! It was quite the confidence booster!"
But alas, he continued, "Then I realized that this strategy was a fail because when you do this, you need to be 11/10 as well. The hot girls won't swipe right on you, and the average ones won't be available as you swipe left on them." Two other popular alleged algorithm hacks: 1. Resetting your account (especially via a Google number or burner phone), since Tinder gives new users a first-day boost. (This can definitely backfire, though, since it's something Tinder knows people are doing and punishes them for it with a shadowban.) 2. Changing your location or expanding your geographical range. "I used to have it so that my distance was like 200 kilometers and then leave it like that for a few hours," says 24-year-old Kelly from Canada. "Then I'd change it back to 10-kilometers distance. I'd immediately get a ton of guys who were 10 kilometers away swiping right on me! It was quite the confidence booster!"
Tinder is Easy (Score:4, Insightful)
Rule 2: Don't be unattractive.
You're welcome.
Re:Tinder is Easy (Score:5, Insightful)
Rule 0: be rich.
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The order isn't that important. Basically you have to have something on offer. Wealth and attractiveness are two possibilities, but you have to have *something*.
Re:Tinder is Easy (Score:5, Insightful)
There are a lot of things that are difficult to change, but fitness isn't particularly hard. Spend two hours a day working out as opposed to on the couch and in a year you'll look a lot better, and probably feel a lot better and more confidence in yourself as well. If nothing else, is demonstrates that you're not a completely lazy sack of shit.
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I meant in general, not just Tinder, but tinder is no exception. It's also used as far as I can tell (not being in three game) an a general dating app as well. It's very appearance focused either way by the nature of the interactions. That cuts both ways, for men and women.
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Tinder, outside of New York City, in my experience, is just a dating app
Both myself and my best man at my wedding met our wives through tinder, using it as a regular dating app
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While being in decent shape is important, other things go into attractiveness that aren't easily changed. Some simple like height and some not so simple like symmetry and having relatively normal ratios in facial features and such.
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While being in decent shape is important, other things go into attractiveness that aren't easily changed. Some simple like height and some not so simple like symmetry and having relatively normal ratios in facial features and such.
Either that's dumb incel phrenology bullshit or Danny DeVito is going to die a virgin.
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If you mean with fitness how far you can run without collapsing, then probably you can change that with exercising 2h a day (but who is actually going to do that?)
If you mean "better look", forget it. With 2h a day of gym or what ever you go nowhere unless you change your diet.
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People simply underestimate how small the difference is between calorie consumption during sleep, resting and hard work.
Then again, doing a physical demanding activity for 2h already requires you to be in a quite good physical condition.
So if one would take the parents advice, you had three problems: ...
a) finding an activity that actually interests you
b) doing it three times a week for ca. one hour to get the fitness to do it for 90 minutes
c) increase the frequency to daily
I know plenty of people who do ma
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Physical appearance =/= physical fitness. Like seriously, I never said anything about fitness.
Also, while it may work for you, since everyone is different, the scientific consensus is that physical activity can account for about 10-20% of what you burn. Most of the energy you eat goes towards general housekeeping, unaffected by your physical exertion. For that reason, saying that you need to work out harder and only doing that, for many people just doesn't work, because, like from my experience, when I work
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I don't need to worry about it, i went through a significant weight loss, and found what works for me. I found that I had to control my diet, since like I was saying earlier, exercise makes me hungry. I understand fitness is an important component to living a healthier lifestyle, it's not a case for me to go and do 1 workout a month, my pattern is to go three times a week, and I do a cardio session, where I try to get my heart rate sitting at around 175-190 bpm for about 30 minutes, and then do some weights
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I hoped you'd delve a little more into the article, as there is a link to one which does go through a lot of studies to arrive at its premise, main thing is, I don't necessarily believe the science, I try to remain sceptical about it, but I'm more inclined to believe something which correlates with my results, and uses the correct science (not your broscience) to arrive at its conclusions. Here's the link; https://www.vox.com... [vox.com]
The studies in there point to all sorts of groups, samples of hundreds of peopl
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But you go on believing any and all articles you find that match your pseudo-science narrative to believe what ever you want to believe... Good Luck to you.
There is no place in the caloric calculation for the amount of CO2 exhaled. Measuring CO2 is just a fudge factor to let you know if you are actually burning fat or instead you are just burning your muscles.
There are none so blind as those who will not see... Another phrase that comes to mind is, if all you have is a hammer, then everything looks like nails.
Unfortunately you're failing at basic thermodynamics here, so don't start confusing yourself with rocket science. Calories/joules are a measure of energy and work = energy in this context. The energy value for food is measured with combustion, but our bodies don't combust our food to extract energy, our bodies use different chemical processes to convert it
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If you are not offering nor seeking a quality relationship based upon trust and mutually respect don't be surprised if you end up with nothing but appearance and greed based shitty relationships. Probably way easier and safer to just toss one off, that blow a wad on a bad contact that could be extremely dangerous to health, from incurable diseases to rape and murder. Ah the wonders of non-reproductive mutual masturbation sessions with as many people as possible because, oh yeah, idiot victim of marketing an
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He's tall, confident and has a way of talking to women that some respond to.
They don't all have to like it, but enough will that he could be dirt poor and still pull (in his younger days).
Confidence counts for an awful lot.
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Re: Tinder is Easy (Score:2)
Wealth will only ever bring the illusion of that.
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I'm 74 now bitch.
Re:Tinder is Easy (Score:5, Insightful)
Rule 3: Be willing to fuck a fatty.
You're welcome.
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Why would anyone want to do this. The hottest ones are going to be the fake accounts anyway right?
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A tiny penis makes people do dark things.
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All Tinder profiles are fake. People select the best photo that the app automatically photoshopped for them and portrays them in the best possible light.
Re:Why? (Score:5, Informative)
I met my significant other on Tinder, after a couple days of using it, and we're getting married in three months.
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Re:Why? (Score:4, Interesting)
I don't know how it was before, but she was actually the one I used my only "superlike" on and also the only one who I felt I really wanted to meet.
Turned out to be the best thing that happened to both of us during our entire lives. Later I showed her what kind of women appear on my Tinder app and she showed me what kind of men appear on hers and we agreed we both were pretty unique in there (from a character point of view) and very lucky to have met each other that way.
The pool is pretty bad.
On the other hand, a friend of mine from the US told me he's using a specialized dating app which costs money (well, the service behind the app does), where matches are being performed manually by humans and the actual match rate is pretty high. He might have told me its name, which I promptly forgot, but the idea was to match a wealthy middle class citizen with another wealthy middle-class citizen based on similar preferences (e.g. both like to travel abroad, both like similar music, both like cats, etc). Also that app is not for scoring one-night-stands, but having long-term relationships or marriage as goals, hence the steep but worth it price. He explained that his position and life style make it hard to randomly meet a match by going to a bar (which he doesn't do) or such. There are people whose lives are so busy that they can't just spend a lot of time searching in person, it is what society has become.
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All Tinder profiles are fake.
I'm generally convinced that you are nothing more than a bot that replies negatively on things you don't use or know anything about.
Not true! So not true! (Score:4, Funny)
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foxhole is real one to hack to get to the troops (Score:2)
foxhole is real one to hack to get to the troops
Re: foxhole is real one to hack to get to the troo (Score:2)
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I thought the data was backed up to a network of refrigerators.
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Guilfoyle's hacking of the Jin Yang's fridge deleted all that.
Fatigue with all of this (Score:1)
tl;dr: ok boomer
Re:Fatigue with all of this (Score:4, Interesting)
You walk into a bar that used to be a pick up joint these days, and everyone is on their phones trying to find hookups on Tinder. It really is a sad state of affairs, nobody has the confidence to talk to each other any more unless they've connected online first.
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You walk into a bar that used to be a pick up joint these days, and everyone is on their phones trying to find hookups on Tinder. It really is a sad state of affairs, nobody has the confidence to talk to each other any more unless they've connected online first.
It isn't confidence, it's risk vs reward. A male is taking a big chance in today's #metoo world.
My favorite example was on a legal site where the advice was "A man asking a woman for a date shouldn't be considered Sexual harassment." in respponse to someone asking if it was if the woman thinks it is.
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The problem with bars is that you meet girls that like to drink and hang out in bars. I have zero interest in doing either.
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Well, why that might be true more than 50% it is not true for 100%
Many people (regardless of gender) go into a bar to socialize, read a book, drink a single single malt, listen to music or watch the european finals.
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I completely get the issue, but I'm also gonna have to admit that when I was younger and single? I was always very introverted and shy around total strangers. I'd go out to clubs or bars with a group of my guy friends but never really met any women while I was there. I think maybe twice, I could tell a woman had some interest in me but one of those times, she had a friend who was like, "No way! He's not the one for you..." and put an end to it before it got started. Another time, I can't even remember the d
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I get that some people are introverted and shy, and aren't likely to make the first move without an app. But its not just some people now. It is practically everyone.
Re:Fatigue with all of this (Score:5, Funny)
Also, the fact that they're armed will probably keep your own pick up lines to an acceptable standard as well.
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Eh. It's against gun range rules to keep guns pointing anywhere but down range.
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That's not the kind of place I want to be shot down.
Re:Fatigue with all of this (Score:5, Insightful)
nobody has the confidence to talk to each other
This is because the rules for what is acceptable speech keeps getting wackier and wackier. Being a "normal" ("Normie") is considered a sin. Having anything less than perfect Political Correct Speech is not allowed. And that is an ever moving target as speech attempts to route around censorship of ideas.
What a joke-- yeah being a reasonably decent human being is so difficult it isn't worth the time. Member the good 'ol days you could just break this ice with a racist joke or something about retards?
People don't interact as much because they have less experience now, everything is done digitally.
And of course there is the number one reason , that predates technology : Fear of rejection.
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What a joke-- yeah being a reasonably decent human being is so difficult it isn't worth the time. Member the good 'ol days you could just break this ice with a racist joke or something about retards?
"Decent" interesting word there. Pretty obvious you weren't around in the good 'ol days, cause that never happened anyway. But considering the shit I've heard from younger guys at work, the only ones being racists are the progressives that think that it's okay as long as it's "the right race" they're being racist against. That being whites and asians.
People don't interact as much because they have less experience now, everything is done digitally.
People have less experience now because they've been coddled to the point where you have parents showing up at their kids job interviews to coach and answe
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I think i can partially agree with you on most if not all of your points.
Pretty obvious you weren't around in the good 'ol days, cause that never happened anyway. But considering the shit I've heard from younger guys at work, the only ones being racists are the progressives that think that it's okay as long as it's "the right race" they're being racist against. That being whites and asians.
I'm not entirely sure what your definition of "good 'ol days" is but no I wasn't around during the Jim Crow era. Born In the 70's. And no, the "progressives" don't think it's "ok" to be "racist" against the "whites and Asians". It's more akin to Eddie Murphy or Tupac being allowed to use the"N" word without a lot of backlash.
People have less experience now because they've been coddled to the point where you have parents showing up at their kids job interviews to coach and answer questions.
Really? How often does this happen? I have a couple young adults, I have never even considered this. I have how
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This is because the rules for what is acceptable speech keeps getting wackier and wackier.
You say this almost implying you're the only sane human left. You're not. Bars are full of people who think like you.
But the fact that you don't believe that other people are normal say things about your sanity ... just on a different topic.
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tl;dr: ok boomer
Basically, yeah. Happenstance takes free time and money, the youngs have neither.
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tl;dr: ok boomer
Basically, yeah. Happenstance takes free time and money, the youngs have neither.
I was pretty poor until my early 30's. There are societies where most people are poor. Men and women seem to be able to hook up in those places.
If you thiink you have to be wealthy at a young age to get a mate, perhaps expectations are a bit high by at least one of the parties.
Because they are then looking for money, not love.
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There are societies where most people are poor. Men and women seem to be able to hook up in those places.
Few poor countries have anything resembling "hookups" or even dating. Many marriages are arranged by the parents, often with either a dowry or a bride price, and often with big age differences between the man and woman.
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Not every poor country is India. In all of the poor countries I have lived in dating was what led to marriage. Arranged marriages are pretty rare anywhere these days except in the few countries backward enough for it still to be a thing.
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More ignorance. Have you ever even left your home town? There is no child sex tourism. At least not anymore. Unless you mean the US of course. I try to stay out of the US for that reason. Too many paedos.
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Yes,
50 years ago.
Time to wake up, Mr. ShanghaiBill.
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How much dating are people actually expecting to do? Is always having an available sexual partner considered somehow normative?
I met my wife when I was 30, and she was the 20th woman I had dated since I was 18, and only 5 of those 20 did I have any relationship that lasted more than six months. I think only 2 of them counted as anything like a "hookup" and even then I saw them at least 2-3 times. Basically there were long stretches where I wasn't dating anybody because there wasn't anyone available.
Most
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How much dating are people actually expecting to do? Is always having an available sexual partner considered somehow normative?
I met my wife when I was 30, and she was the 20th woman I had dated since I was 18, and only 5 of those 20 did I have any relationship that lasted more than six months..
Of course it varies by personality, but modern popular culture expects women to "date" a lot. It is ridiculously easy for a woman to obtain many sexual partners. Have a nice evening out, dinner, maybe a movie, the guy foots the bill, and then back to your place for some screwing. Trading sex for goods
And before the outrage crew gets too triggered, that is the exact model that Tinder uses. It's there, and that is what it is there for.
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I guess just based on my accrued experience I would think that *men* would have the heaviest expectation of "dating-as-sex-fulfillment" while women would have a larger expectation of "dating-as-relationship-fulfillment".
But I'm definitely not clued into the social habits of 20-somethings, so maybe this mindset has changed.
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I guess just based on my accrued experience I would think that *men* would have the heaviest expectation of "dating-as-sex-fulfillment" while women would have a larger expectation of "dating-as-relationship-fulfillment".
But I'm definitely not clued into the social habits of 20-somethings, so maybe this mindset has changed.
Times have changed my friend. The marching orders today are to avoid settling down with a man until your mid 30's, and until then, hook up with those alpha "Bad Boys" that are exciting, but not good partners.
Oddly enough, that age is the time when a women's fertility is on the wane, and many have had enough sexual partners that the men that will mate with them at that point do not turn them on. And a male that reaches his mid 30's but still single tends to not think in terms of being riuled by his libido.
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No. And I also don't buy expensive products without doing an internet search on the various options first. It used to be that I walked into a K-Mart or Sears and bought whatever they had to offer. Now, I can search.
Dating apps are just search engines for relationships. Find someone interesting, and have a SHORT online conversation. If they're not up for a date, move on. Meet them in a public place in the real world. Have an actual conversation. If they're not the one (or at lease 'a' one), move on.
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Or if you're smart you don't get married but stick around anyway. Why would any man want to get married? Marriage has near zero benefits for men and a great many costs.
If an investment adviser offered an investment with a 50+ percent failure rate, with the opportunitiy to lose half of everything you've worked for, to continue to lose money over the course of many years, we'd call them insane.
The best example of how men are treated in divorce is a friend of mine had a wife who was cheating on him, got caught fucking her skeeze, then divorced him, took more than half and even forced him to cash out his retirement (of course he got to pay the penalties) and give her half o
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Does anyone meet others, romantically or otherwise, the old fashion way, by way of happenstance?
Probably. The point of Tinder though, is that it's Grindr for straight people (Grindr is a hookup app for gay men, primarily focused towards matches based on physical appearance).
The gay hookup apps hit the scene first, because gay clubs/bars were surprisingly shitty places to meet people, even in their hayday, and it was otherwise not very common to run into other gays while going about a typical daily routine. Tinder came about because while there's tons of places for straight people to hit it off, it's
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grow a pair and ask them out. The worst they can say is "no". ....
Yes, but if you never got taught how to ask one out (and as the other sex never got taught how to politely decline an invitation) it is a horrible experience for the first few hundred times
Re: Fatigue with all of this (Score:5, Insightful)
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There's also the issue where you and The Love of your life might never hit the bar at the same time
The love of your life may also not use Tinder. I agree bar dating is not some ideal, but this is a silly reason for or against any option as it applies to all equally.
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Did you mean walk into a local bar, if there is one, and then talk to every girl there until you find one...
THAT IS IF YOU CAN HEAR THEM!
Re:Fatigue with all of this (Score:5, Interesting)
Does anyone meet others, romantically or otherwise, the old fashion way, by way of happenstance?
https://web.stanford.edu/~mros... [stanford.edu]
The way people met used to be through (1) family, (2) friends, (3) school+college. Now it's (1) online, (2) bars, (3) friends.
I don't think that "happenstance" is how many people ever met other than in romantic comedies...
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What exactly is the difference between a "blind date event" and a dating site in terms of "modern dating" or "how to meet your significant other"?
Three whole mentions of MICROS~1 (Score:1)
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SEO (Score:3)
Are you sure that this isn't from The Onion? (Score:2)
Worked for me sort of (Score:5, Funny)
I met my current girlfriend on Tinder and we really hit it off. That's how I found out my family is racist.
I took my new girlfriend (who's Asian) to meet my family but my wife and kids got really pissed off and told her to leave.
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Because you really enjoy it when you show up in person, and your date says, "Uh, no." and walks away?
Well maybe the other party was horny af and when you showed up they said "Uh, n... well... shit you'll do" and hands you a paper bag (or plastic bag, really depends on just how much you lied on the Tinder profile).
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Hope?
That they will be too kind hearted to walk away disgusted with the hideous beast that lied to manipulate them?
And then they can get to know who you really are and how funny and kind and cool you are.
And not just a lying manipulative scoundrel?
Ok then.... (Score:3)
Just when you think this site has reached a new low.... What is this garbage?
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Just when you think this site has reached a new low.... What is this garbage?
SEO, algorithm messing on social networks, cheating, fraud, dating tips involving the use of a burner phone. Looks like the ideal Slashdot article, the only thing missing is if there's any improvement in results if you run Linux.
Wow.. Being married is great then... (Score:2, Insightful)
Having been married for 27+ years to the same woman, I can tell you I'm happy I don't have to do fake stuff to get a woman's attention online or otherwise. What has the world come to? This is just sad sounding to me.
You poor kids, why do I get the feeling that all the "instant gratification" stuff you've been accustom to has ruined your chances of meaningful long term relationships. As soon as things get uncomfortable in anyway, everybody is heading to their phone to see how they can hook with somebody e
Re:Wow.. Being married is great then... (Score:4, Insightful)
You must be kidding. Men have been doing fake stuff to impress women for thousands of years.
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What has the world come to?
I know. The fact that you took 27+ years to realise something that has been going on since the dawn of man just shows how stupid the world has become.
No seriously. What has the world come to? Men trying to impress women? Are you from this planet at all?
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Well,
dating sites - or apps - have the advantage that you can clear many things upfront before TALKING.
Why would I talk or date a woman that does not like sex daily, or does not like oral sex? You see: completely incompatible, why waste time dating till first sex and then realize after 3 or 4 month: it will never work out? I mean when I was 20, I thought: ah, when we are together it fixes it self, she will be more hungry for me. Obviously she never will be.
And the most important thing: smoking. It is basica
6 weeks of tinder ... (Score:2)
... are the fast-track to finally being comfortable and happy with being single.
Which is a good state to be in to finally meeting the one.
However, I would still recommend social dancing over tinder any time.
Salsa, Kizomba or, in my case, Argentine Tango. It turned my life around and the women I met and got intimate with in the ten years I was dancing 3+ times a week every night taught me a lot. About women but also about myself as a hetero male. And about people in general, their proneness to vanity and the
Re:I had some fun experimenting with this (Score:5, Insightful)
That's because they are generally less shallow about this stuff than us men
Oh honey, the fact that you think women are less shallow than men is just so fucking adorable.
You'll learn as you get older, I promise.
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My slashdot ID has one less digit than yours, I don't think you noticed!
You talk about dating and men/women as if you're posting from your father's slashdot account without his supervision.
Re: I had some fun experimenting with this (Score:4, Insightful)
Calling me immature just makes me feel happier on my path of actually liking women
Look at you, the intrepid adventurer off on an amazing quest to like women. Wow, you're an innovator- no one ever thought of liking women before, you should patent that idea!
Seriously though- calling you "immature" is spot-on. It oozes from every syllable you write.
But hey- go ahead and be a radical non-comformist doing your amazing new thing of "liking women." Maybe it'll catch on.
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The way you talk about 'liking' women is liking them for what they can give you.
Sonny, you don't know me so don't pretend you do.
I've been married twice (still happily married to my 2nd) and have had loads of girlfriends and lovers over the decades. I like women for 1000 different reasons, most of which you still haven't puzzled out.
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E.g. the way you mock me for thinking 'liking women' is a radical concept implies liking them for sex.
I mocked you because it was easy, well-deserved, and took no effort.
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What I mean is liking them as an actual person which seems above you at this point.
Oh, you think that's some amazing new concept to me, eh? I've been liking women as actual people while you were still carrying a PlaySkool briefcase. I don't know a lot about women but I'
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OK boomer
I rest my case.
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because they are generally less shallow about this stuff than us men
It's true that in real life women place status above physical looks but studies have shown that they are literally more shallow than men. This isn't the original study just a first result google link but take a look at how women rate men vs how men rate women link [gwern.net]. Note that men rate women on an even curve... women not so much.
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I hate getting involved in these arguments, but have you ever taken a real IQ test? You have some very strange ideas which I am suspicious of because I can tell how much you desperately want to believe in them. Even if they are not true you would still believe in them. I don't understand how you could want to fool yourself quite so badly even if your ideas make you feel warm and fuzzy. But then people believe in magic deities in the sky for similar reasons I guess.
Women are not that different from us. They
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I think American girls are the shallowest in the world when it comes to this. Physical appearance really and truly is everything to them. I guess that is just part of American culture, but the rest of the world is only a little bit behind in this.
Shallow is probably the wrong word. In other parts of the world they are equally shallow, but look first on the money.
A better word would be narrow, as I can understand that in america the people/girls are so shallow that they only like the narrow spectrum of "thi
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Calling you stupid was not the core of my message and I was just throwing it out there as a possibility to explain how you could be so wrong about something so easy to figure out.
You suffer from Ãoefundamental attribution errorà where you blame your looks for a poor experience with women where it is likely actually your poor attitude towards women that is causing your poor experience with women
This is actually not about my own personal experience with women. This is about a lifetime of observation and it is so clear that women are the same as men when it comes to looks that only the willfully blind could pretend that it isn't the case. People want really badly to believe that beautiful women can be charmed even if you ar