Twitter To Label Disputed COVID-19 Tweets (apnews.com) 86
Twitter announced Monday it will warn users when a tweet contains disputed or misleading information about the coronavirus. From a report: The new rule is the latest in a wave of stricter policies that tech companies are rolling out to confront an outbreak of virus-related misinformation on their sites. Twitter will take a case-by-case approach to how it decides which tweets are labeled and will only remove posts that are harmful, company leaders said Monday. Some tweets will run with a label underneath that directs users to a link with additional information about COVID-19. Other tweets might be covered entirely by a warning label alerting users that "some or all of the content shared in this tweet conflict with guidance from public health experts regarding COVID-19." The new labels will be available in roughly 40 languages and should begin appearing on tweets as soon as today. The warning could apply retroactively to past tweets.
So ingesting bleach? Will... (Score:1)
...that be labeled misleading as a cure?
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you can't fix crazy and they went crazy trying to fix what they thought was crazy?
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I think in the developed world, when we think of "disinfectant", we usually think of Lysol, bleach, industrial cleaners and the like. When you say "I'm going to wash the counter with disinfectant", most people I know don't translate that as "I'm going to tear the roof off my house or set up a series of mirrors to bathe the counter in sunlight."
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Spin it as much as you want ...
There is no escaping what he said:
Here is what he said: "And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?"
There you have it: injection. He was not taking about sunlight. And all
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The context of his statements was a viral medication that is activated by UV light.
While he did stumble over his words a bit, they were in fact relevant to the subject at hand.
Too bad you don't know how that works.
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You are the one doing the spinning ... consciously or otherwise ...
Listen for yourself to the context of him spouting off nonsense: this video [youtu.be] has Bill Bryant, the Homeland Security official, showing slides on the virus and how it is killed, outside the human body. First slide is how sunlight and humidity affect the virus infectiousness. The second slide has on it disinfectants (specifically: bleach and isopropyl alcohol) and how they can be used to prevent transmission (not treatment).
Immediately after tha
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"So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether itâ(TM)s ultraviolet or just very powerful light. And I think you said that hasnâ(TM)t been checked but youâ(TM)re going to test it."
MAYBE he was thinking of Healight when he was talking about "heat and light" treatments, but he turned and asked Dr. Birx about it and she responded with the explanation of what a fever is for a five year old. I'll at least entertain the idea that internal UV treatments got on his brain after being told a
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I saw that too.
It is a press release from a company. Nothing else. ...
No peer reviewed paper, no doctors saying they are using it, nothing of substance
And Trump was not referring to it at all. When confronted, he said I was being sarcastic. He never named a company or a treatment.
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Did YOU listen to what was said by Brix to Trump before Trump started speaking?
Sheesh.
Re: So ingesting bleach? Will... (Score:4, Insightful)
https://www.reuters.com/articl... [reuters.com]
He said the comments on disinfectants were sarcastic, but you are defending what he said on the basis it was sincere.
So are you defending what he said sincerely, or what he said sarcastically?
An intelligent person understands this is not something any elected official should be saying, joking or not.
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It didn't help that he had just been talking about bleach and other dangerous disinfectants, with a poster behind him listing them.
Maybe he saw that poster and a lightbulb went on in his head. Maybe it was the email some crank sent him about injecting bleach the previous week.
But in any case he later claimed he was being sarcastic, so it's a bit odd that you are sincerely defending his supposedly insincere comments.
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The TDS affliction in some is so severe that they must twist EVERYTHING Trump says into an attack on him and anyone who voted, works for, or is associated with him.
Do you seriously just ignore the "something like that" part of the sentence in order to justify your demented outrage?
Jesus, it's obvious Trump is no medical expert, but he simply asks an ignorant sounding (but well meaning) layman's question, and the DNC cultists jump all over it like a pack of wild dogs on a steak.
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> hear what you want
Kind of like what you are doing?
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That it was even a question suggests a pretty demented and befuddled mind. There's no way that Trump looks like he's anything other than a pretty stupid person.
If someone walked up to you and said, "you know, we know bleach kills the virus, so if we had something like that, and injected it inside...?" What would be your initial thoughts on his mental capacity? Now, perhaps if he were an indian from the deepest darkest of the Amazon rainforest, who had never seen bleach, and just heard a report that bleach k
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Birx had mentioned a kind of internal therapy (medicine) that is activated by light.
Trump got a couple of words wrong (e.g., "disinfectant") but that's what he was talking about.
Re: So ingesting bleach? Will... (Score:1)
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That is a question, not a suggestion.
It's a question framed as a statement, a statement by a very very stupid person with a speech impediment. But he gets away with it because he has rabbit fanbois that is making the corpse of Steve Jobs blush.
damned mask warers (Score:1)
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Their taking away are freedoms of speach. Your not going to let them git away with that, are you?
Stupid people make straw men arguments for more complicated issues, because they do not understand nuance
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When I was a kid (Score:1)
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I was thinking about the firemen the other day though, while reflecting upon the clean-out of my late father-in-law's estate. Many books that nobody wanted, and I already have too many that I don't know what to do with. Over the next few decades I would think most of the physical books will eventually be disposed of, and that book will become entirely metaphorical.
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I used to think all those movies and books with stuff like the Ministry of Truth and firemen and people blindly accepting it was dumb and unrealistic especially with past history. Now I see stuff like this and I'm not so sure.
They all were extrapolating what they knew, to it's ridiculous conclusion.
Well, we are now at that point. Some are much further gone than ohters, but the US is headed that way too.
This here is pretty much the establishment of crimethought.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/... [congress.gov]
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God damn it, Thoughtcrime!
You know this is the opposite right? (Score:2)
For this to be an example of The Ministry of Truth they'd need to edit them before they posted (or after if you want to be particular).
On the other hand if you want a real example of The Ministry of Truth there's this right here [arstechnica.com]
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Except that's not what you said (Score:2)
If you want to be important the best way is to do something important. Me? I'm just screaming into the void really. Trying to blow off steam. I have no delusions about my importance
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Re: Except that's not what you said (Score:1)
Re: You know this is the opposite right? (Score:1)
EVERYONE knows Twatter deletes comments that challenge the Official Narrative. This was standard operating procedure long before Corona panic.
Go home, Nazi. No one is fooled by your bleating apologies for the worst tyranny since Hitler.
Re: You know this is the opposite right? (Score:2)
Obvious liar is obvious. And rather dull.
so twitter will be the experts? (Score:3)
Our own CDC has wavered and backtracked on advice over the course of this thing. Many doctors are now saying that putting people on ventilator might not be the best as it's almost certain death sentence for 80+ percent plus, oxygen and positioning are showing better outcome.
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Twitter gave everyone an equal voice and it turns out that voice is cancer. Route twitter off the internet and society will be better off. It serves no purpose other than to tell people what topic they should be raging about today.
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By the time people are put on a respirator they are already in severe respiratory distress (ie. severe pneumonia). People in that state are already on a pretty steep curve for not surviving. Leaving people off a respirator when they are in severe respiratory distress isn't exactly known for its efficacy either.
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I've been saying since the start that they need to treat ventilators with he same scrutiny as hydroxychloroquine. I'm sure I'll be downvoted again, but ventilators in the US had a 12% survival rate. I don't think we know what the survival rate is without them, although I'm sure it's pretty bad.
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They are just targeting the very worse, most dangerous advice like "inject bleach" or "have a COVID-19 party so you can get back to my factory."
Advice that is genuinely the best effort of experts in the field, even if it ultimately turns out to be wrong, is the best thing we have. What is the alternative, listen to the snake oil salesman?
Re: so twitter will be the experts? (Score:1)
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The alternative is obviously for twitter to continue to let people tweet, and keep its ignorant opinion to itself.
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Many doctors are now saying that putting people on ventilator might not be the best as it's almost certain death sentence for 80+ percent plus, oxygen and positioning are showing better outcome.
My god why won't this falsehood finally die.
Firstly: Oxygen is a standard first response for anyone admitted to hospital with falling SpO2 levels. There are few if any people who end up on ventilators who haven't also been given some form of O2 therapy. Chances are if you're struggling to breath you're probably on O2 before you even get to hospital.
Secondly: The WHO's guidelines from back on the 28th of January specifically said that adults in respiratory distress should not be invasive ventilated.
- Put on
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I spoke of the U.S. CDC, why do you bring up irrelevant WHO?
The standard treatment here for critical cases is ventilators, and 80% die.
No it won't. (Score:1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
I imagine... (Score:1)
WUT ABOWT MAH FREEZE PEACH???!!!!!``````` (Score:2)
Re: WUT ABOWT MAH FREEZE PEACH???!!!!!``````` (Score:1)
Vile, cowardly Nazi scum sure do love denigrating the brave and honorable men resisting the Corona tyranny.
Re: WUT ABOWT MAH FREEZE PEACH???!!!!!``````` (Score:2)
What would an obvious child and liar know about any of those words?
And much mockery ensued (Score:2)
Any efforts like this to "stop the spread of disinformation" present the 100% likelihood Twitter themselves will be spreading misinformation by marking an accurate thing as inaccurate...
I hope Twitter enjoys mockery. Though honestly, with so many actions Twitter takes being mocked it seems like in fact they must crave it.
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Not to mention the satire problem. The cartoon of the bleach enema, the social distancing from wild animals poster, anything from The Onion or The Borowitz Report, etc. are all, strictly speaking, disinformation, but if you Snopes them, everybody's going to call you a moron. :-)
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Would you prefer they just take it down instead of labeling it?
Would you prefer all of humanity was kept in cages with tongues cut out so they couldn't accidentally say or do anything wrong?
Not all are equal in the free market of ideas
Throughout history attempts to enforce equality from without have simply imposed a different ordering, never equality.
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Yeah, because Twitter labeling idiot posts as "idiot posts" is totally the same as putting us in cages and chopping or tongues.
Fuck me, the Libertarians really have lost their marbles.
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Not all are equal in the free market of ideas
And yet that once-respected way of thinking known as "science" says they are.
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You, and your straw man arguments, are the reason why evil flourishes.
Trump won't like it (Score:1)
I don't think that will go over well with the current US president.
So Twitter has M.D.s on staff? (Score:4, Insightful)
You have medical doctors contradicting the conventional (and often contradictory) wisdom from the CDC and WHO. So some twit with a B.S. is going to say they are bunk and flag or ban them. Where is their scientific authority to say the doctor is wrong?
I'm sure this won't be controversial, abused, etc. (Score:1)
So Twiter is going to be labeling all tweets then? (Score:1)
What information about Covid-19 isn't disputed?
So now when China (Score:1)
So... (Score:2)
We're getting back to the time... (Score:2)
... when you could be burned alive for disagreeing with Orthodoxy.
Cute, @jack... really cute. (Score:2)
Twitter announced Monday it will warn users when a tweet contains disputed or misleading information about the coronavirus
Just like they promised they'd slap labels on leaders' tweets with misleading info/lies..... which is still yet to happen.
Downright censorship (Score:2)
"The company has been removing bogus coronavirus cures and claims that social distancing or face masks do not curb the virus’ spread for several weeks. "
It's fine that they remove bogus cures because those can pose a demonstrable risk for public health.
It's NOT FINE that they censor claims that social distancing or face masks does not curb the virus' spread - because while distancing may have some effect, masks have no value for the general public unless you're sick and go around coughing and sneezing
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I mean what would you do all day if people started filtering out disingenuous nonsense?