OpenBSD 6.7 Released (phoronix.com) 49
New submitter xhonza writes: New OpenBSD version. String of good news. Some of the new changes, as highlighted by Phoronix, include:
- FFS2 file-system improvements including using 64-bit timestamps and block numbers by default for new installs.
- Support for the Raspberry Pi 4 on ARM64 while improving the Raspberry Pi 3 support too. Raspberry Pi 2/3 support has also improved for OpenBSD ARMv7.
- Better support for Rockchip systems like the Pinebook Pro.
- Various SMP improvements including better AMD SMT/Core/Package detection.
- A wide variety of different hardware driver improvements, including Intel AX200 WiFi device support.
- A FIDO driver introduced for FIDO/U2F security keys support.
- Fixed handling of USB 2.0 devices when in use on different USB 3.0 controllers.
- The PowerPC OpenBSD build switched over to Clang as its default code compiler.
- Various dhclient fixes.
- Various security improvements.
The changelog, announcement, and list of mirrors can be found at their respective links.
- FFS2 file-system improvements including using 64-bit timestamps and block numbers by default for new installs.
- Support for the Raspberry Pi 4 on ARM64 while improving the Raspberry Pi 3 support too. Raspberry Pi 2/3 support has also improved for OpenBSD ARMv7.
- Better support for Rockchip systems like the Pinebook Pro.
- Various SMP improvements including better AMD SMT/Core/Package detection.
- A wide variety of different hardware driver improvements, including Intel AX200 WiFi device support.
- A FIDO driver introduced for FIDO/U2F security keys support.
- Fixed handling of USB 2.0 devices when in use on different USB 3.0 controllers.
- The PowerPC OpenBSD build switched over to Clang as its default code compiler.
- Various dhclient fixes.
- Various security improvements.
The changelog, announcement, and list of mirrors can be found at their respective links.
Re:Psycopaths (Score:5, Insightful)
Theo calls out snowflakes who spew misinformation or "developers" who demand "improvements" without being able to show code. How is that being a psychopath? It's not, instead we have a generation that imagines they can talk out of their ass without knowledge nor ability and not be called out for it.
Hide in your safe room, snowflake. The adult world is too tough for you.
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False, Linux (the kernel) is sloppier and allows more bleeding edge things and with more revolutionary sudden changes though of course to be fair one can follow long term stable kernel rather than hot of the press. And no in the present Linus did NOT write most of what is the kernel, this isn't the 90s any more.
OpenBSD team makes a superior server product for many applications.
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You seem very ignorant of the fact BSD is used in many appliances (router, firewall, load balancer, NAS, etc.) besides o embedded systems like elevators and printers. Hardly dead. MacOSX is a BSD too.
You're looking like a clown posting in ignorance.
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Mac OSX is Darwin, which comes from NextSTEP, which comes from Mach, which was a replacement for the BSD kernel [wikipedia.org].
You need to stop accusing others of ignorance while displaying so much of it yourself.
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Your ignorance is astounding, the Mac OSX kernel is a hybrid mach/bsd kernel, and the userland is BSD. Even NeXTStep had Mach libraries making calls into a BSD 4.3 kernel (I used to have a NeXTStation), Stop running off your virtual mouth about things of which you know nothing.
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Dream on, o king of ignorance. The OSX kernel is based upon Mach 3.0, which is not a "hybrid" anything. The userland is BSD compatible, not BSD.
That's nice, but that's not Darwin, much less OS X. BTW, I sold the damn things.
The proble
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Apples github page says otherwise, "XNU is a hybrid kernel combining the Mach kernel developed at Carnegie Mellon University with components from FreeBSD and C++ API for writing drivers."
So you're a sales wank, that's why you are technically ignorant.
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What's what you're basing your argument upon? That's so sad... driver frameworks.
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No, that's the C++ api for drivers. Your ignorance is astounding.
Open the source there and you will see BSD source in the kernel for posix API system calls, the BSD process model mapped into Mach tasks, security policies, user and group ids, permissions, the network protocol stack, the virtual file system code, the Network File System (NFS) client and server, cryptographic framework, UNIX System V inter-process communication (IPC), audit subsystem, mandatory access control, and some of the locking primiti
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This partisanship is really dumb. Why would you fight about Linux vs. BSD?
Do you only run a single OS? Why? I'm running 7 on actual hardware, plus many VMs.
Running Manjaro doesn't mean I can't also run OpenIndiana.
My main laptop dual-boots Kubuntu and FreeBSD.
There are so many great operating systems today. Why limit yourself?
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I do run Linux, Mint, as my desktop. But my servers are BSD. My employer provides a Macbook Pro with OS X, also a BSD.
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There are so many great operating systems today. Why limit yourself?
While I do agree that partisanship is dumb and we need a variety in OSs - yes, why limit yourself? Because for most people, even most tech people, collecting operating systems isn't what they want to do with computers. I run 2 OSs (one on my servers, one on my clients) and that's enough for me. I picked the ones I consider the best for each case and stick with them, because that means I can focus my time on doing the things I really want to do, instead of keeping up to date with and babysitting a zoo of ope
ordinary human behavior (Score:2)
I would like to think anyone coming into OpenBSD knows that Theo runs it specifically because he can't get along with other people as demonstrated decades ago on the NetBSD mailing lists. Still, Theo is no Hans Reiser.
You may not like Theo as a person. But it's hard to argue with the results. I don't need to like someone to use their software. Of course there is a point where their behavior or politics are too extreme to support them indirectly by simply using their free-of-charge product.
Re:ordinary human behavior (Score:5, Insightful)
OpenBSD is good precisely because of the community being based purely on merit. I fail to see how that's extreme politics.
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This is deeply unfair on people who lack merit or, indeed talent of any kind.
Boo Hoo!
Re: ordinary human behavior (Score:2)
Re: ordinary human behavior (Score:4, Informative)
If you figure out how to convince programmers to care about security, let me know, because I haven't figured it out yet.
Giving programmers the processes, techniques, and tools can help.
Security is going to be a problem on any project until a team really buys into the idea. It's not something that gets tacked on at the last minute. You don't get to make an Agile task called "security" and set it for some number of "Story Points" then defer it to the next sprint. Security isn't a feature that plugs into any framework. Security as a methodology must participate from architectural phase, through developing, into testing, and onto the release phase.
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Theo does not have strong people skills,
But then again, neither do most other techies.
He's a pushy guy, at least last time I spoke with him, but he can handle pushback as well, as long as you have a solid argument and know what you're talking about. I like that in people. If you have strong opinions that you voice, also be able to handle strong opinions coming in.
And keeping an OS dedicated to the most overlooked and most needed element in computing today running for so long, with so many examples of leading the way, is not a small accomplishment
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Ad Hominem fallacy much?
What specific evidence make Theo a psychopath in your opinion?
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Someone said it on the Interwebs.
https://www.osnews.com/story/1... [osnews.com] ... ...de Raat is such an egotistical, arrogant, psychopathic maniac...
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But hey, I don't have a god in this hunt. I think he's a narcissist and a psycopath. His comments on various forums are destructive, unhelpful, disrespect basic human ideals, diminish people, and punish those he disagrees with. The Goldwater Rule suggest we can't psychoanalyze him without meeting him... and I've never met him, so maybe if this topic was about him (
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The Goldwater Rule suggest we can't psychoanalyze him without meeting him.
The laws of science (psychology) suggest you can't "psychoanalyze" him by throwing around terms you're not qualified to use to label with.
You come off as pretty ignorant tossing around 'psychopathic' like you know what it means.
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Hey "Commander", (how's that Space Force commission working out?) you wrote:
> The laws of science
Science has no laws. It's a process. Learn what the words mean BEFORE you use them.
> You come off as pretty ignorant tossing around 'psychopathic' like you know what it means.
Oh my goodness. Your OPINION is that I COME OFF as PRETTY IGNORANT and then you have no idea if I know what it means.
If that doesn't make you feel like a hypocrisy-filled idiot, nothing will. Put on your MAGA hat and vote your wa
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So you are judging Theo based on something that someone said 13 years ago???
I read it on the internet so it must be true! /s
Thank god we had a professional diagnosis to confirm it ... oh wait ...
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> So you are judging Theo based on something that someone said 13 years ago???
Someone said "The sun rises every day" and that was thousands of years ago and it's still true.
Someone said "a leopard can't change its spots" and that was thousands of years ago and it's still true.
I guess for you it's OK if it's less than 13 years? I don't know that standard. If it was 1 year ago would that be valid for you? 2 years? 4? 8?
For me someone's comment that formed an opinion that hasn't been changed is just as
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> Someone said "The sun rises every day" and that was thousands of years ago and it's still true.
Because comparing an inanimate object that follows the Laws of Nature is "equivalent" to judging a person over one thing another person said about them over a decade ago.
**Facepalm**
> I don't know that standard.
If you don't know then I recommend keeping quiet instead of being a drama queen and making baseless acquisition(s) UNLESS you have proof.
It is not only about the duration but also about the frequen
Excellent (Score:3, Interesting)
Need to remember to donate. Now that Linux is infected by stupidity, one of the xBSDs is my next line of defense if that infection cannot be stopped.
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Thanks for the reminder! (Just donated.)
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FFS2 (Score:2)
Better RPi Support - Woohoo! (Score:2)
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Some day... (Score:2)
One of my little goals around home is to replace my home router with a small ARM box running OpenBSD and run ethernet through the house properly. Right now everything is WiFi and run off a router from Costco.
Mostly just as a reason to finally get into OpenBSD. I've used it here and there but never long term.
Porting ZFS from FreeBSD (Score:2)
I wonder how hard it would be and if it is a reasonable request to port ZFS and Dtrace from it's FreeBSD cousin? I am kind of hooked for personal NAS appliances at home with this.