Some Believe the US Has Been Hit By Large-Scale DDoS Attack — Others Are Skeptical (forbes.com) 112
Forbes reports major internet outages across many companies including T-Mobile, Fortnite, Instagram, Comcast, and Chase Bank. Some experts believe it is the result of a coordinated attack, others not so much. Slashdot reader bobthesungeek76036 shares the report: On June 15, a flurry of reports on a number of different services in the U.S. have indicated that the country may be experiencing a coordinated DDoS, or "distributed denial of service" attack. These attacks are malicious attempts to disrupt or shut down targeted servers by overwhelming them with traffic from multiple sources. According to outage aggregator Downdetector, users reported outages in major mobile carriers (T-Mobile, Metro, Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, Consumer Cellular, US Cellular), Internet providers (Spectrum, Comcast, CenturyLink, Cox), social media platforms (Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, Twitter), games and game services (Fortnite, Roblox, Call of Duty, Steam, Xbox Live, Playstation Network), streaming services (Netflix, Hulu, HBO Now, Twitch), banks (Chase Bank, Bank of America), delivery services (Doordash), and other major platforms like Google and Zoom.
Of yet, the would-be source of these attacks is still unknown. @YourAnonCentral, a popular Anonymous twitter account, speculates that it, "may be China as the situation between South and North Korea is currently deteriorating." The same Twitter account cites the Digital Attack Map, which tracks the "top daily DDOS attacks worldwide" offers a visualization of the map of these attacks, but some, like cybersecurity expert Marcus Hutchins, claims that the map is "badly plotted" and does not currently "indicate an attack against the US." All major carriers are listed on Downdetector, but Verizon claims its problems are being artificially represented through attempts to connect to T-Mobile. [AT&T also cites "other carriers' networks" as posing problems for users.]
Of yet, the would-be source of these attacks is still unknown. @YourAnonCentral, a popular Anonymous twitter account, speculates that it, "may be China as the situation between South and North Korea is currently deteriorating." The same Twitter account cites the Digital Attack Map, which tracks the "top daily DDOS attacks worldwide" offers a visualization of the map of these attacks, but some, like cybersecurity expert Marcus Hutchins, claims that the map is "badly plotted" and does not currently "indicate an attack against the US." All major carriers are listed on Downdetector, but Verizon claims its problems are being artificially represented through attempts to connect to T-Mobile. [AT&T also cites "other carriers' networks" as posing problems for users.]
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It is not a DDoS attack. T-Mobile's problems are self-inflicted from work to merge their network with Sprint.
CloudFlare has a lot of visibility about these sort of things, and they say there is no major DDoS. No Internet Exchanges are showing any increased traffic levels verses recent levels.
https://twitter.com/eastdakota... [twitter.com]
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He's so much smarter than you that you can't even figure out if he's posting under a new handle, or just not posting here anymore.
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I had an intranet app go down yesterday. (It was a standout because it rarely goes down.) It would look like A DDOS attack but the fact that I stopped and restarted the app it worked fine. I couldn't find any high usage. I didn't give it much thought, except for me trying to find the RCA on why it hung is difficult.
There may be a glitch in some software. I would probably see if the others reporting the DDOS were all using the same software/os/hardware combination.
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I've been watching live attack maps for the past two days. Cloudflare needs to maybe pay some fucking attention. The majority of shit was coming out of Brazil. T-mo and Sprint barely have jack shit there. Reddit was knocked out, most of my game servers were throwing 1,000ms+ pings, I even had problems getting slashdot to load.
Wanna try again when you actually have information?
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There is no data to support your assertions. Do you have any?
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I believe sqrt(X), my President believes X-1 because he not sophisticated enough to express something more complex.
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I believe in sqrt(-abs(X)).
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That is impossible.
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You beliefs are imaginary
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Wow, 150, that's a lot of waxing you had to do to make that list, jeeze.
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Mayb we just like to argue. We agree on most of it (Score:3)
We Americans sure do like to argue. I understand a few years ago Russia was taking out ads taking extreme positions of both sides of contentious issues I ordet to further encourage our tendency to figure out things to diagree about.
For example pretty much everyone in the world agrees on these important things:
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
Thou shalt not covet (jealousy isn't good)
Heck, most of us would even agree a
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He's a businessman. America is so aflush o'them, one had to come up as a P-resident sometimes. OTOH, it is so often, that I reconsider if kagebists are sponsoring him, or is he authentic disruptive nuts. Anyway.
Now, you speaking values. Good stuff!
My reason writing here for the price of my karma is to point to the difference of:: muscle flexing now, there, any moment allowed, and building into distance. There is a mental difference between Russia and China. Come from that, and you got these offenses sorted.
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He is mentally ill. Even among businessmen he is quite odd. He seems dedicated to be the parody of the big businessman. From everything I see from him, he seems like a Narcissist which is a mental disability. Which is extremely dangerous when they are in positions of power. Because they think they are smarter then they are. Not respect people or their feelings. Attracted to others in high power. Do not reflect on their actions.
I have worked with successful businessmen in the past. They are not like Tr
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"Thou shalt not kill" - Problematic for those country's with a death penalty, and also with respect of euthanasia.
"Thou shalt not commit adultery" - Why, other than the historical property aspects, what consenting adults do is up to them
"Thou shalt not steal" - Problematic with respect to property rules. Israel and Palestinian land, USA and Native American land etc.
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" - yep, but gets complex when you extend it to marketing, which is often evolved lying.
Fuck your wife (Score:2)
> "Thou shalt not commit adultery" - Why, other than the historical property aspects, what consenting adults do is up to them
You're asking why I shouldn't fuck your wife?
You don't think that just maybe adultery, married people cheating, maybe has caused some problems?
> Thou shalt not covet" - Well thats consumerism done then
In the consumer culture, the United States, the average American is in the top 5% richest people in the world in terms of income - and the bottom half in terms of wealth. We make
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"You're asking why I shouldn't fuck your wife?"
No I am asking why you think you should have any say in it as opposed to it being up to your wife to decide what she does with her body.
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You're a professional context murderer. This mentality is the reason that we can't have nice things.
Gladly doing away with the BS "Thou Shalt" business, I"ll re-word it for today's understanding...
Don't murder - prety simple to understand
Don't cheat on your spouse - "cheating" is the keyword here. It means that you've cheated someone out of their devotion to your relationship
don't steal - this is as plain as can be. Don't steal land either
don't lie - this is also as plain as can be. Don't say things tha
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We'd agree on those listed items, if any of us used the words "thou" and "shalt". But since none of us speak bible around here, it sounds as goofy as you're saying the president is. wtf?
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That happens to be the traditional phrasing, from a particular list that most people in the world agree on.
You may have heard of that list called the Decalogue or thr ten commandments.
Muslims find them listed in Quran 6:151â"153,
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I get it, but it's still goofy. Speaking "normally" in all aspects of the conversation, until you get to a list of things to not do is just ...goofy! Imagine going to a resturaunt and the following conversation unfolding:
Waiter - Hi welcome to DerkyDerk Eatery. How are you today?
You - I'm just fine, thanks for asking. How's everything been today?
Waiter - We've been slower than normal, due to COVID-19, but we're making ends meet.
You - I understand. Luckily I've not been infected, and no one that I know
X-Files (Score:2)
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How about the rest of the world pisses on your fucking server farms, You hypocrite.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
This facility will greatly increase the NSA's ability to store and process millions of emails, IMs, SMS, and phone calls made daily by people around the world and in the United States.
And just FYI - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org].
As a result of these NSLs big us companies are in bed with the NSA et al.
So tell me again why should the rest of the world trust the usa.
I am sick and tired of arguing with people like You. You think you're the "greatest" country on this planet. Well - you're fucking not.
A little humility on Your part would go f
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You're probably replying to someone actually Chinese or Russian, you know?
usual conspiracy theories (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:usual conspiracy theories (Score:5, Funny)
It's caused by swamp gas reflecting the light of Venus shining off bigfoot's balding head.
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It's caused by swamp gas reflecting the light of Venus shining off bigfoot's balding head.
This chart [external-preview.redd.it] says it's a weather balloon.
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Not experts, some anonymous Twitter accounts.
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I especially like the idea that it's China attacking a private US company, which is a subsidiary of a German telecom, because North and South Korea are having a spat.
What the fuck?
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Yes, we've been under one massive DDOS attack initiated November 8, 2016 by a Russian botnet consisting of 48% of zombiefied voters.
Ha! Love it.
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And.... you have link evidence?
Oh, of course you don't. That's why your 7-digit lying ass had to use so many words to try to make a point that can't exist.
Meanwhile, we've got a whole intelligence committee that says Trump actually colluded with Russians. And we have a lame-shit congress that won't stop it.
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Having worked with people who had directly worked with Hillary Clinton, Both Conservatives and Liberal I have always gotten a consistent message from them. She actually cares about the problems you bring up, she may not agree with your solution, but she cares about the problems. She is very organized and smart.
Campaigning she doesn't seem to show that traits about her. Which is why I feel a lot of people see her disingenuous.
Re: No shit (Score:2)
John Adams: contentious, but generally highly respected
John Quincy Adams: generally seen as failure
George H. W. Bush: contentious, but generally respected
George W. Bush: generally seen as a disaster (at least before Trump)
Bill Clinton: contentious, but generally respected
X Clinton: why do we keep doing this? I get that you might have forgotten about the 1800s, but do you really not fucking remember 2008? Jesus Christ, why are they even running?!
2016 in a nutshell.
Some believe that life here began out there... (Score:1, Funny)
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....far across the universe. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man, who even now fight to survive .
Is that why researchers are looking for intelligent lives with instruments pointing _away_ from the earth?
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You just had to introduce politics into this huh?
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I was stating an objective fact.
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Non-stop spam calls, 5 to 8 times a day for years. (Score:1)
Then, starting yesterday: silence.
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That's called going deaf. You should see a doctor.
Probably not, but it could have been (Score:1)
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Ah, but all their lowest-paid, most disgruntled and most bribeable employees have always had ample reason, and lacked only coordinated timing. I believe that is what we're seeing now.
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then, so even more, are comments
create an account, or welcome as an ac, and you are that voice missed
then, intelligence still can tell the difference, thus ruin shallow kagebistic hopes
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Fortnite event? (Score:2)
My 10yo was disappointed because he couldn't join a big fortnite event on a US server last evening (we're in Europe).
Could the Fortnite event have been mistaken for a DDOS attack? I don't know how massive these things get...
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Could the Fortnite event have been mistaken for a DDOS attack? I don't know how massive these things get...
Probably not, there were only about 1M reported online.
Hmm if it was 12 million players, yes absolutely (Score:3)
I was writing up a traffic comparison to show why a Fortnite event would be much smaller than a significant attack, and probably less bandwidth than an episode of Stranger Things. Then I saw an article that said the event hit it's cap of 12 million players before it started. 12 million sure is a lot of people.
Articles say Fortnite uses about 100 MB per hour per user. With 12 million users, that would be 1200 million MB.
A very large DDOS was reported to be 1.3 Tbps.
That's 450 million MB.
Yeah, the Fortnite
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Where do you see an error in my math?
Fortnite is reported as MBs per hour, so I converted thr ddos to the same unit.
The biggest ddos, against GitHub, is reported as 1.3 Gbps. Do you see an error in my conversion?
There might be an error, but no I didn't totally forget to convert units.
* Tbps (Score:2)
I said it correctly in my original post. The GitHub DDOS was 1.3 Tbps, as I recall. Of course that's just from memory, so I could be wrong.
"Some believe" - "Others are skeptical".. really.. (Score:2)
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This is a traditional example of how not to write a headline or argument.
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What level of writing is this? If SOME believe, then it means not ALL believe, which means OTHERS don't believe. Including your "Some are skeptical" part is ridiculous and unprofessional.
Um, no, if "some" believe, it means some believe, period. You can not infer the beliefs (or disbelief) of anyone else form that. You are incorrectly applying logic to degrade others.
woooo adjectives (Score:2)
Of yet, the would-be source of these attacks is still unknown.
Christ on a cracker. Does Forbes not have copy editors?
Can’t speak to the T-Mobile problem (Score:2)
But I was working all day, remotely, using my Comcast connection to connect to our university’s servers. I saw no issues, and seemingly neither did any of our other staff or faculty (at some point we would’ve heard about it, guaranteed - even if they had to find a landline and call us).
I’m sure there was a cell phone issue, given the coverage... but let’s not make it bigger than it is, Forbes.
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Are we now seeing Comcast's revenge for Trump's tweets being cast upon all other service providers?
Throw the bums in jail - Who? (Score:2)
"Fortnite" is a company? (Score:2)
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Why would someone bother? (Score:2)
If you had the capability, why would you demonstrate or test it in a way that would cause such an impact ahead of an actual conflict?
Anonymous? (Score:3)
@YourAnonCentral, a popular Anonymous twitter account, speculates that it, "may be China as the situation between South and North Korea is currently deteriorating."
Only an imbecile would make a statement like that. Not that Anonymous had much credibility in the first place, but this is just lame. So China is going to show their hand and demonstrate their cyberwarfare capability to cause some minor inconvenience to a handful of US companies because the Koreas are having their usual spat of the month? Absurd, and such nonsense shouldn't have even been mentioned in the summary.
If I had a nickel for every time... (Score:2)
DDOS happens, but it is rare in my experience.
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A nickel? Maybe just a penny... DDoS and "cyber attack" are always used as the convenient excuse. DDoSes do happen all the time, all day long -- but they are usually not big enough to cause much of a problem except for their target. Any volumetric DDoS under the single digit gigabits per second is not a problem for the Internet as a whole. If you or your website server is the target, it will knock you offline, and maybe also your neighborhood for a bit, until your ISP blackholes the destination IP. Y
Covid? (Score:2)
Some Believe the US Has Been Hit By Large-Scale DDoS Attack
Yes. It's called Covid-19.
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Get laid. It won't fix your list of complaints, but you'll feel better.
Oh look.... (Score:2)