QAnon Groups Hit by Facebook Crack Down (nbcnews.com) 242
Facebook on Wednesday banned about 900 pages and groups and 1,500 ads tied to the pro-Trump conspiracy theory QAnon, part of a sweeping action that also restricted the reach of over 10,000 Instagram pages and almost 2,000 Facebook groups pushing the baseless conspiracy theory that has spawned real-world violence. From a report: Facebook also took down thousands of accounts, pages and groups as part of what they called a "policy expansion," seeking to limit violent rhetoric tied to QAnon, political militias and protest groups like antifa. QAnon is an elaborate, unfounded conspiracy theory alleging that President Donald Trump is secretly saving the world from a group of prominent Satanic cannibals that run the world. The group has been linked to several violent, criminal incidents, including a train hijacking, kidnappings, a police chase and a murder. The new policy states that "Pages, Groups and Instagram accounts associated with these movements and organizations will be removed when they discuss potential violence." QAnon, militia movements and violent movements tied to protests will now no longer be allowed to purchase ads on Facebook. QAnon ads, which often pushed merchandise, were allowed on the platform before Wednesday's announcement.
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Where's the link to the story?
Missing Link (Score:2)
Good riddance (Score:4, Insightful)
You're so beautiful (Score:4, Insightful)
QAnon is an elaborate, unfounded conspiracy theory alleging that President Donald Trump is secretly saving the world from a group of prominent Satanic cannibals that run the world.
Remember when 1.5 million people signed up to do a Naruto run into Area 51, and only 150 people actually showed up? The number of people believing this nonsense is much smaller than the people actually posting about it.
Re:You're so beautiful (Score:4, Informative)
QAnon is an elaborate, unfounded conspiracy theory alleging that President Donald Trump is secretly saving the world from a group of prominent Satanic cannibals that run the world.
The number of people believing this nonsense is much smaller than the people actually posting about it.
I'll just leave these here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/j... [forbes.com]
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/12... [cnn.com]
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07... [cnn.com]
https://www.thedailybeast.com/... [thedailybeast.com]
Yep. No one believes in QAnon....
Re:You're so beautiful [and crazy] (Score:5, Interesting)
Trying to guess what the Subject means.
Just replying with anecdotal evidence. I do have one old friend who is into Qanon. She has often been a bit of a religious nut, but this Qanon stuff is over the top for incoherence--but she's convinced me she is sincere about it, even if what "it" is has no detectable meaning or sense.
My theory is that it's a psyop, though I'm not sure who's running it. On the surface there is no relationship to religion, but somehow it is extremely appealing to them anyway. And no, I don't think I can define "them" better than that. Even with the non-personal evidence added in, I can't get any clear image of how the psyop targeting is working or even who the targets are.
I do think that part of "the appeal" is Internet mediated. I don't think she could say that stuff directly to my face. The responses on my face would inhibit her, but via the Web, almost anything goes (and comes and goes).
Re:You're so beautiful [and crazy] (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not going to replace one conspiracy theory by inserting another, but Evangelicals in America do in fact feel fairly threatened. They view gay marriage, abortions and in general modern mores as a direct attack on them, and most of them have been raised from infancy to believe that dark forces are working to destroy their way of life. They're like the Know-nothings of times past, imagining vast conspiracies, because the truth is too hard to bear; that society views them as vestiges of an archaic age, and their influence is waning simply because the majority just simply don't agree with them, and don't want them to wield influence far beyond what their actual numbers represent.
Re:You're so beautiful [and crazy] (Score:5, Interesting)
And yet their disapproving views on "modern mores" have somehow induced them to support a thrice-married serial adulterer who pays porn stars for sex while his wife is home with their child, and brags about grabbing women by the pussy.
I am convinced that "gay marriage, abortions and in general modern mores" is really just cover for good old fashioned racism and bigotry. It would not be the first time that the Bible has been used to give cover to such people. Evangelicals, now as ever, are really just seething with hatred. Catholics, Jews, blacks, gays, women, what-have-you. They worship a messiah who preached love by practicing hate. It's not a religious movement at all, it's plain old identity politics and political correctness.
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Re:You're so beautiful [and crazy] (Score:4, Interesting)
My wife has someone she was friends with growing up who posts/likes/shares QAnon conspiracies on Facebook. My wife said a recent one was one about the Getty museum having secret underground chambers where children are abused.
The irony here? Her friend is a long time employee of the Catholic Church. I wonder how she would react to being told about the underground spaces in the Vatican and the suppression and denial of child abuse in the Catholic church.
I often wonder if the QAnon phenomena isn't really some kind of mass denial/projection phenomena, where QAnon adherents are really just reacting to the crumbling of the structure of their own belief systems by creating an external vehicle in which they can package the flaws of their own cherished institutions.
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I think you may be on to something, for at least some adherents. The one thing that it is clear is that social conservatives are losing influence, and they know it. The days when the pulpit practically had the force of law, are disappearing. Not only have these social conservative institutions like the Catholic Church and the Southern Baptist Convention shown themselves to be anything but residents of the moral high ground, but society itself is moving away and diminishing their importance by the day. Socia
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The counterfactual argument is that conservative social institutions are mostly beyond reproach, no scandals or coverups. The police are an effective and just force for civil order with few biases, religious institutions provide a respected moral framework and their leaders are benevolent and honest, the market economy is fair and business and corporations operate fairly, and compete on the quality and usefulness of their service and don't engage in rent-seeking or corruption. Politicians are intelligent
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A lot of known Russian bot accounts were amplifying QAnon. It's not clear if they started it or are just boosting it because it suits them.
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It takes discipline to maintain objectivity. One must reject a pleasing belief based on lack of evidence, no matter how much one wants to believe. That is hard. Harder for some people than others, but requiring of education in all cases.
Critical thinking is a learned skill. Many don't have it. Those who don't have it are very vulnerable to conspiracy theories like this. Even really crazy ones (like one popular one that involves an all-powerful being who forces almost everyone into a pit of fire, where
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Trying to guess what the Subject means.
It means, when I get an email informing me I have a reply to a message on Slashdot, the subject of the email is going to be positive and make me feel good. Much better than "Dumb idiots" which was my first thought.
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I'd like to believe that only a tiny handful of people actually believe that crap, but one of them is a close friend who routinely posts their updates and has threatened to block anyone who argues with her about their validity.
This move is too little, too late. The genie is already out of the barn door, and you can't unring a cat out of the bag. At this point if the founders who started QAnon identified themselves in public and admitted the whole thing was a hoax just for lulz, Q people would either assume
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That's the same for any dogmatically driven group. Belief in something is so profound that denying their tenets is effectively heresy, and they will use their own personal brand of psychological/physical/emotional assault to "bring you to the light".
It's the reason I left facebook (because there are so many people who will absolutely do their best to make you miserable, just because they believe they have the light of the universe shining out their arse, and if you don't agree with them, you need to be bea
Re:You're so beautiful (Score:5, Insightful)
Once someone has wholly invested themselves in a crazy idea, nothing can really turn them from it. Some finally wise up and realize they've been played, but most just lack the capacity for self-reflection. There are people still insisting Big Foot exists, even though they guy that started the whole crackpot idea admitted it on his death bed.
In the past crackpot ideas were pretty hard to disseminate. White supremacists outside relatively safe areas in the South had to work on the sly, through pamphlets and magazines distributed in brown paper wrapping so the neighbors wouldn't find out that they lived next door to a Neo-Nazi kook. But Facebook has allowed a relatively small number of crackpots to magnify their message, and thus give the perception that somehow there are vast numbers. This scares the crap out of people, who don't seem to understand how easy it is for a relatively small number of people to make themselves look like some vast army.
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There are people still insisting Big Foot exists, even though they guy that started the whole crackpot idea admitted it on his death bed.
Source?
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one of them is a close friend who routinely posts their updates and has threatened to block anyone who argues with her about their validity.
There is nothing there to indicate that your close friend actually believes it.
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You mean the QAnon conspiracy believers are themselves a conspiracy to make people believe in QAnon believers?
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This seems like a solid step but I think labeling accounts as having been subscribed to this garbage would be better for everyone. The easily mislead should come with a warning label.
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I suggest a pointy dunce-cap above their avatars.
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When the "QAnon" finally putters out, they'll still be easily mislead by the next crackpot group. It would be nice to know who you shouldn't bother associating with before wasting time getting to know them.
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...we had them peacefully contained on facebook groups only senile old farts read. Now they've flushed them out and they will scurry everywhere else until they can build a new nest.
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Started on 4chan, spread to Facebook and Twitter, then Trump rallies. It's too late, it's loose.
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Facebook ... Bad. (Score:3)
i canceled Facebook long ago... I have from time to time thought of creating an account specifically so I can read certain groups or have discussions about certain topics. However, I have no desire to create an account that requires me to de-identify myself and give up anonymity. aka I will not give out my phone number which no one even has a right to know exists. I actively encourage everyone to quite Facebook until they enable anonymous account creation.
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The real conspiracy is their attempts to discredit QAnon by making up nonsense stories about supposed "antics" they are blamed for.
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But isn't that the point of QAnon - to be so vague that anyone can extract whatever meaning they want from it and then get into the supposed antics?
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QAnon nutters are always good for a laugh until they start shooting people.
Seriously, believing in QAnon stuff should make you ineligible to vote, drive a car, or breed.
Stupidest Conspiracy Ever (Score:4, Insightful)
Look, I believe in conspiracies. I am absolutely certain that a bunch of violent southern secessionists tried to not only kill the Republican President but actually succeeded. Not that you hear it in Big Media today. (God Rest Abraham Lincoln).
That a bunch of people in Florida planned to destroy 4 major landmark buildings - and only took out 3 due to the good work of the passengers on flight 93.
That a bunch of business men plotted a coup but an honest General refused to participate (Semper Fi indeed, Major General Smedley Butler )
But the idea that: a. The world is ruled by a bunch of secret pedophiles/cannibals (how many satanists out there that you have to say these are the satanic pedophiles, rather than the satanic arsonists?) , b. The President of the United States thinks he has to keep the fight against them SECRET (because why? does he think it will make him less popular), and c. That someone helping the President has to TELL THE WORLD ABOUT HIS SECRET FIGHT?????
Stupidest conspiracy ever. Absolutely none of it makes any sense at all and I fully the idiots to die thinking it was true. Because anyone that believes something that silly simply does not have the brains to realize he is an idiot.
Re:Stupidest Conspiracy Ever (Score:5, Interesting)
There have been plenty of crazy conspiracy theories before this. Some of them gained enough traction to cause some folks serious problems. The whole Satanism thing during the 80s and 90s evolved from some crazy ass books published in the 1970s and early 1980s (the height of nonsense like alien's visiting the Mayans and the like) is a pretty obvious predecessor to the super-powerful pedophile ring nonsense (if I were more interested, it would be interesting to see at what point in time they intersected and one evolved into the other).
But the belief that secret cabals of Satanists quickly became a pretty good example of mass hysteria, and all got started with the Kern County child abuse cases back in 1982. It ruined some folks lives, as self-professed experts acted as expert witnesses for overzealous prosecutors, and incompetent police used wildly ridiculous tactics to question young children. In the end, it was all revealed to be a pile of bullshit, but folks went to prison and their lives were destroyed, all because of an incoherent and idiotic moral panic, bad police work, self-aggrandizing expert witnesses and prosecutors more interested in getting high profile convictions than in actually looking at how the evidence was even being gathered.
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But the idea that: {a} The world is ruled by a bunch of secret pedophiles/cannibals, {b} The President of the United States thinks he has to keep the fight against them secret (Because why? Does he think it will make him less popular?), and {c} That someone helping the President has to tell the world about his secret fight?
Stupidest conspiracy ever. Absolutely none of it makes any sense at all
Finally. Someone who gets it.
I wasn't aware of the Business Plot, though I'm with you on the other real conspiracies. I'll add to that one of my own: Russian interest in Syria was primarily about creating as many refugees as possible, with a view to acrimony in Europe and the USA over how many asylum-seekers to accept. Maybe it's just hindsight bias, but it seems to have worked out too perfectly not to be a plan.
It Runs Deeper (Score:4, Funny)
The TDS is Strong with this One (Score:2)
These weekly Qanon stories show that too many people are permitting Trump to live rent-free in their head
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America has long been a literal font of conspiracy theories. All a foreign actor has to do to get things moving is just give the resident nuts a bit of a boost.
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An analysis of the "encrypted" messages supposedly from QAnon show they are consistent with someone mashing a QWERTY keyboard.
Re:Q's statements are being realized (Score:5, Informative)
The Q postings appear remarkably authentic and seem to come true,
Q predicted Republican success in the 2018 US midterm elections and claimed that Attorney General Jeff Sessions was involved in secret work for Trump, with apparent tensions between them a cover. When Democrats made significant gains and Trump fired Sessions, there was disillusionment among many in the Q community. Further disillusionment came when a predicted December 5 mass arrest and imprisonment in Guantanamo Bay detention camp of Trump's enemies did not occur, nor did the dismissal of charges against Trump's former National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn. For some, these failures began the process of separation from the QAnon cult, while others urged direct action in the form of an insurrection against the government. Such a response to a failed prophecy is not unusual: apocalyptic cults such as Heaven's Gate, the People's Temple, the Manson Family, and Aum Shinrikyo resorted to mass suicide or mass murder when their expectations for revelations or the fulfillment of their prophecies did not materialize. Psychologist Robert Lifton calls it "forcing the end". This phenomenon is being seen among some QAnon believers. View echoes the concern that disillusioned QAnon believers might take matters into their own hands as Pizzagate believer Edgar Maddison Welch did in 2016, Matthew Phillip Wright did at Hoover Dam in 2018, and Anthony Comello did in 2019, when he murdered Mafia boss Frank Cali, believing himself to be under Trump's protection.
Prominent QAnon follower Liz Crokin, who in 2018 asserted that John F. Kennedy Jr. faked his death and is now Q, stated in February 2019 that she was losing patience in Trump to arrest the supposed members of the child sex ring, suggesting that the time was approaching for "vigilante justice." Other QAnon followers have adopted the Kennedy theory, asserting that a Pittsburgh man named Vincent Fusca is Kennedy in disguise and would be Trump's 2020 running mate. Some attended 2019 Independence Day celebrations in Washington expecting Kennedy to appear.
You've got a really low bar there. The "JFK Jr didn't die and is actually Q" part is my favorite.
Re:Q's statements are being realized (Score:5, Informative)
The one thing I learned a long time ago about conspiracy theorists is that there is no evidence that could ever disprove the theory. If you provide evidence that the claim is rubbish, or demonstrate that a supposed prediction didn't come true, they just double down, and insist the evidence against the conspiracy is in fact evidence for it. Cognitive dissonance is a real thing, and we're all vulnerable to it, and to compartmentalizing dissonant beliefs, but in a conspiracy theorist, that feature of the human psyche is magnified.
I worked for a guy who believed fervently in the New World Order conspiracy. He believed firmly that Y2K was going to be the moment when the NWO types, using the United Nations, would take over America. They'd use the failure of infrastructure to gain control of the US government and there would be US troops marching down the streets of major cities imposing the New World Order via a puppet regime in Washington. He was a member of a few Usenet groups and mailing lists with dozens of other fellow NWO conspiracy theorists posting, and it was just astonishing to get a glimpse at the lunacy, fallacious thinking and out and out nuttery that was being shared.
My observation was that conspiracy theorist came in three different groups:
1. Genuinely mentally ill people; probably schizophrenics and extreme bipolar types who are genuinely delusional. (My boss was a sub-type, a recovering alcoholic that had clearly replaced the bottle with the conspiracy theory, but the addictive personality just found a new outlet).
2. Losers. By that I mean basement dwellers, people with less profound personality or behavioral disorders that made them outcasts, and well, just plain losers who found a community of a kind in the conspiracy theory movement, as well as gaining an inflated sense of self-importance because they had access to the Truth, unlike all the dull-witted sheeple.
3. Assholes. Some of these guys were clearly just having a ball manipulating Types 1 and 2. I'd say some of these guys at the very least were anti-social personality types, but either way, they get their kicks out manipulating the mentally ill and the socially isolated.
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I don't think it's enough to just be a loser. You have to be mentally ill and/or developmentally disabled to buy that kind of bullshit without any evidence.
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I think the defense that is sometimes made is that Q is so high up that he has to throw in false predictions because, if everyone he made was correct, they could identify who he is. So if a prediction doesn't come true, well, then it was just intentional disinformation. And yeah, group 3 is a big reason why Q has gotten so big: people have used it to make a lot of money.
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Q's very first prediction, the big one that started it all was that Hillary Clinton was/is going to be arrested and detained.
She's giving a speech tonight at the DNC.
That should tell you everything you need to know. Q is a conservative fan-fiction grift, they just want your money and your vote. You are free to let it go and I would encourage you to put your research time into helping actual anti-child-trafficking organizations if you are actually concerned on that front. The Q people are actually making i
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Re:Q's statements are being realized (Score:5, Interesting)
The Jeffry Epstein case demonstrated that they don't bother to even hide what they are doing, no code words such as "pizza." They just went right ahead and continued doing what they were doing as if there was nothing wrong with it. Any complaints got paid off and covered up.
The only thing Qanon seems to add to the discussion is to make people who want it all to end vote for Trump. I honestly don't know how anyone expects the guy who spent half his life hanging out with Epstein and even leaving thinly veiled comments to the press joking about what it was Epstein was up to will suddenly want to crack down on it.
Well I'm at it, I absolutely despise people who want to turn Epstein to their political advantage. The crimes don't appear to have restricted themselves to party lines and the only moral sulution is to burn everyone involved regardless of party affiliation.
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QAnon though, seems to me at least, to be to be running interference.
So... QAnon is a fake conspiracy that has been created by the actual conspiracy in order to hide behind the QAnon smokescreen?
That's so meta. I love it.
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Re: Q's statements are being realized (Score:4, Insightful)
Oh sure... care to provide some unambiguous evidence of specific predictions that came to pass? Something concrete, and not just conservatives fantasizing about child sex dungeons in the basement of a pizza shop that actually has no basement.
Hey, remember when Q Anon predicted that John Podesta would be indicted on November 3, 2017? Or how about the mass arrests of Trumpâ(TM)s opponents (you know, like how dictatorships do things) on December 5, 2018? Or was that supposed to be January 19, 2019? Or maybe March 19, 2019? Or have all those many failed predictions just gone down the memory hole?
By the way, you can often learn a lot about someoneâ(TM)s darkest desires by paying attention to what they accuse their opponents of doing. It says a lot about you guys that you instantly assume people with power would use it to prey on young kids, eh?
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Re:Yet antifa gets a pass (Score:4, Informative)
Yet antifa gets a pass
From the article:
Facebook also took down thousands of accounts, pages and groups as part of what they called a “policy expansion,” seeking to limit violent rhetoric tied to QAnon, political militias and protest groups like antifa .
RTFA.
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RTFA.
You must be new here.
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There have been exactly zero deaths in Portland related to the protests and the "violence" is mostly graffiti and firecrackers. Yes a few more serious incidents and if we were going to use that as an excuse to condemn the entire lot then we should also apply the same standard to Trump supporters as there are numerous incidents of them committing violence nationwide.
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They did attempt to block police officers in a building and set it on fire. Luckily that was thwarted. Even the cowardly mayor called it attempted homicide. But rather than actually condemning the violence, he just said that they're providing Trump with video fodder.
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They did attempt to block police officers in a building and set it on fire.
Yeah, well, granite doesn't burn. Obviously you've never seen that building, or you think the protesters are dumber than you are.
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There have been exactly zero deaths in Portland related to the protests and the "violence" is mostly graffiti and firecrackers
The only way you can believe this with your eyes and ears covered, with your head shoved up your ass.
Even the most superficial news search shows this has been night after night of violence, arson, and looting.
Here's the top line from the first Google hit, and this is a month old:
For more than fifty days, protests in Portland have carried on. While many have been peaceful, those demonstrations have also been marked by violence, vandalism, arson, arrests and allegations of police brutality.
These are not "peac
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Sounds a bit like the lead up to the American Revolution. There were high minded types who tried to use at least quasi-legal tactics to fight back against the imposed taxes and monopolies the Crown was invoking. And then you just had angry gangs who tarred and feathered Crown tax collectors and drove Loyalist officials out of town. Uprisings tend to go in both directions, and often there's a quite a bit of conflict between the moderates, who recognize the anger, but don't think busting windows is a fruitful
Re: Yet antifa gets a pass (Score:3, Insightful)
You are shifting the goal post. We all get it - you support the violence because it aligns with your goals. Just don't say there was no violence.
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I had a great uncle who went to Spain to fight the Nationalist during the Spanish Civil War. In other words, he was the 1930s version of an Antifa member. I don't agree with their methods, but acting like there's some moral equivalency between anti-fascists and the neo-nazi goons and their fellow travelers is something I reject utterly. The anti-fascists of the 1930s got labeled similarly when they confronted American Nazis in street battles... that is until the US entered the war and beating the shit out of Nazis became not only acceptable, but mandatory.
Just because people call themselves "anti-fascists" doesn't make them so. This is just branding, similar to "Black Lives Matter".
It's like a mining company special interest group calling themselves "Save the Earth".
It's why the pro-abortion people call themselves pro-choice, and the ant-abortion people call themselves pro-life.
Owning the language drives the narrative.
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You can't make that argument while shouting slogans like "ACAB" (all cops are bastards), we're not even going to listen. You guys treat rules as things that are only for other people.
No, that's what the cops do.
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Then why are all the cops from the Floyd incident in jail while a whole lot of people who burned down Portland, Baltimore, etc. walk free?
I note that you didn't argue with any of the points made, which I'm going to take that as being unable to do so.
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According to Trump's FBI, there are nobody associated with Antif in Portland. Not a single person.
As for claims that people associated with the BLM aare responsible for violence, name one. Because the only people convicted so far have no more connection to BLM than you have to the Russia.
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It's just the old false equivalency fallacy. Every time nasty types like the white supremacists or QAnon come up, inevitably someone will trot out "wahhh, what about Antifa?"
We went to war 80-odd years ago to wipe fascism off the map, and we did a pretty good job what with Hitler shooting himself in his bunker with Soviet troops marching into Berlin, after Allied bombing had reduced it to ashes. Italian Partisans did a rather nice job of it on their end, with Mussolini's body hanging off a meathook.
Now suddenly, actual followers of Fascist creeds are delicate snowflakes that need tender loving protection from Facebook and Twitter. I wouldn't punch a Fascist in the face, like an Antifa member might, but I sure ain't gonna cry any tears when an Antifa fist meets a Neo-nazi's jaw.
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According to Trump's FBI, there are nobody associated with Antif in Portland. Not a single person.
Citation required.
Unless there are more than one group associated with black-bloc tactics, burning US flags, and calling each other comrades?
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Yes a few figureheads got swapped out. But the machine is still the politicized/corrupt machine it always was.
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If you're trying to imply that the protests caused these deaths, you could have easily found the entire list of all the people killed in July and the circumstances of their deaths and verified that none of them had anything to do with the protests. They're all the various things you expect, mentally ill people, domestic violence, misadventure and criminals that stumbled into their death.
https://www.oregonlive.com/cri... [oregonlive.com]
Furthermore, overall crime rates are down compared to July of last year and the lowest r
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You’d have to install a fascist regime (see: China, North Korea, middle eastern “shitholes”) if you want to completely quell protesting. The irony probably escapes you, but you might want to look up the etymology of “antifa”.
“LOL!”, indeed.
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I doubt Antifa is changing that many minds, and I can't imagine a lot of voters are going to "Well, I was all ready to vote for Biden, but then some Antifa guy lit a garbage can on fire".
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I definitely prefer the fungus.
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So what? You figure it was the aliens? Those sneaky little bastards!
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I will agree the circumstances of E's death are "curious" or "odd"*. However, that's not a reason to conclude there was likely a conspiracy. And even if there were a conspiracy, there is no way to tell which variation is correct.
He had so many enemies at that point it's hard to figure out which of them would be the one who would go to that extent to take him out.
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We are not banning conspiracy theories that lead to violence. We are banning conspiracy theories that a. Lead to illegal actions, b. Have no evidence. and c. Whose conspiracies have zero INTERNAL logic.
The racists cop theories a. do not lead to illegal actions, b. have a ton of evidence. and c. are at least internally consistent.
If the president is trying to keep something secret that means people revealing the secret are not helping him. That is what the word SECRET means.
If you can't understand that, p
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The racists cop theories a. do not lead to illegal actions, b. have a ton of evidence. and c. are at least internally consistent.
a) See here [twitter.com]. Roving, violent mobs destroying property, assaulting, and killing people are illegal actions.
b) Not in the cases of George Floyd [dailymail.co.uk], Rayshard Brooks [youtube.com], or Michael Brown [wikipedia.org]. There are many others as well. But, those are some of the bigger lies that acted as catalysts for your violent mobs.
c) I don't follow Q stuff. Not sure what you consider inconsistent or not. Given the above two points though, you seem like an idiot, so I wouldn't trust your opinion on what is or isn't "internally consistent".
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We are banning conspiracy theories that a. Lead to illegal actions, b. Have no evidence. and c. Whose conspiracies have zero INTERNAL logic.
No, thats not it. How to determine if you conspiracy theory is banned: Is it on your side of the political fence? NOT BANNED.... Is it on the OTHER side of the fence? BANNED... The only criteria is partisanship just like all things in the USA. Libs of FB and twatter cant handle the QAnon stuff, nuff said, ban it to keep the sheep.
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Let’s see, one’s a crazy conspiracy spawned by some 4chan nutters, and the other is folks who are more than a little concerned that the country is sliding into fascism.
It’s a good thing we’re not tear gassing protesters so the president can get a photo op at a church? Oh right, that did happen.
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folks who are more than a little concerned that the country is sliding into fascism
I've been watching and it's difficult to tell them apart.
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And the ones burning and breaking windows in Jewish businesses?
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And the President is going to try his own version of burning the Reichstag by trying to delegitimize November's vote.
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people who fight Nazis?
Their name is disgenius, they dont fight Nazis, they ARE Nazis.
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Depends on if you're walking the walk or just talking the talk.
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Russian jokes seem appropriate for QAnon believers.