'At This Point, 5G is a Bad Joke' (computerworld.com) 199
An anonymous reader shared this skeptical opinion piece from Computerworld:
Let's start with the name itself. There is no single "5G." There are, in fact, three different varieties, with very different kinds of performance... But, what most people want, what most people lust for is 1Gbps speeds with less than 10 milliseconds of latency... [T]o get that kind of speed you must have mmWave 5G — and it comes with a lot of caveats.
First, it has a range, at best, of 150 meters. If you're driving, that means, until 5G base stations are everywhere, you're going to be losing your high-speed signal a lot. Practically speaking, for the next few years, if you're on the move, you're not going to be seeing high-speed 5G. And, even if you are in range of a 5G base station, anything — and I mean anything — can block its high-frequency signal. Window glass, for instance, can stop it dead. So, you could have a 5G transceiver literally on your street corner and not be able to get a good signal. How bad is this? NTT DoCoMo, Japan's top mobile phone service provider, is working on a new kind of window glass, just so their mmWave 5G will work. I don't know about you, but I don't want to shell out a few grand to replace my windows just to get my phone to work.
Let's say, though, that you've got a 5G phone and you're sure you can get 5G service — what kind of performance can you really expect? According to Washington Post tech columnist Geoffrey A. Fowler, you can expect to see a "diddly squat" 5G performance... ["roughly the same as on 4G LTE," while some places "actually have been slower."] It wasn't just him, since he lives in that technology backwater known as the San Francisco bay area. He checked with several national firms tracking 5G performance. They found that all three major U.S. telecom networks' 5G isn't that much faster than 4G. Indeed, OpenSignal reports that U.S. 5G users saw an average speed of 33.4Mbps. Better than 4G, yes, but not "Wow! This is great!" speeds most people seem to be dreaming of. It's also, I might add, much worse than any other country using 5G, with the exception of the United Kingdom.
First, it has a range, at best, of 150 meters. If you're driving, that means, until 5G base stations are everywhere, you're going to be losing your high-speed signal a lot. Practically speaking, for the next few years, if you're on the move, you're not going to be seeing high-speed 5G. And, even if you are in range of a 5G base station, anything — and I mean anything — can block its high-frequency signal. Window glass, for instance, can stop it dead. So, you could have a 5G transceiver literally on your street corner and not be able to get a good signal. How bad is this? NTT DoCoMo, Japan's top mobile phone service provider, is working on a new kind of window glass, just so their mmWave 5G will work. I don't know about you, but I don't want to shell out a few grand to replace my windows just to get my phone to work.
Let's say, though, that you've got a 5G phone and you're sure you can get 5G service — what kind of performance can you really expect? According to Washington Post tech columnist Geoffrey A. Fowler, you can expect to see a "diddly squat" 5G performance... ["roughly the same as on 4G LTE," while some places "actually have been slower."] It wasn't just him, since he lives in that technology backwater known as the San Francisco bay area. He checked with several national firms tracking 5G performance. They found that all three major U.S. telecom networks' 5G isn't that much faster than 4G. Indeed, OpenSignal reports that U.S. 5G users saw an average speed of 33.4Mbps. Better than 4G, yes, but not "Wow! This is great!" speeds most people seem to be dreaming of. It's also, I might add, much worse than any other country using 5G, with the exception of the United Kingdom.
Except for the UK? (Score:3)
I've heard their 5G infrastructure is blazing fast. Did I misunderstand?
Re:Except for the UK? (Score:5, Funny)
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Can't see why any one phone would want 1 Gbps, but maybe somebody will show me up on that.
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I can't see why somebody would imagine that they'd be using it in a car. With a range of 150m, even if there are base stations "everywhere" you're not going to be moving from cell to cell that fast, with your data transactions moving transparently with you, without either a lot of latency, or a lot of lost network connections. Think about the network load for moving all those connections around and re-transmitting all the lost packets.
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I mean good lord
https://www.standard.co.uk/new... [standard.co.uk]
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Yeah, thank goodness I'll never need that!
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Some of the promotional material that seemed to be circulating in the media a while back was talking about connected devices that would use 5G to communicate directly with each other as well as the broader 'net. In the context of cars, I remember there was a diagram showing some sort of autonomous vehicles that were using roadside beacons to navigate but also using inter-vehicle communications to maintain efficient spacing and respond to emergencies.
Because obviously what you want to rely on to keep you saf
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5G it to control and monitor you at all times, with internet appliance. Don't bother with a router and wires you control, we can control all your devices for you, from 5G, your front door, your back door, you airconditioner, you fridge, your microwave, your TVs, your radio's, your phones, you computers, your game console, ALL OURS FUCKER, 'er', all connected directly to 5G, no wiring, no router, that's all too hard, let us to it for you and no hard disk drive, use ours, we will scan and delete all unwanted
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why the fuck would you change the windows, just an an antennae outside that connects to an antennae inside.
The 5G Covid-crowd going to go totally ape on that one...
"I gotta replace my Covid-resistant windows with new non-Covid-resistant ones?"
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I think the point of the short range 1Gbps stuff is to serve a massive number of people in a small space, like a stadium, without a complete collapse of performance. (Of course with Covid there currently ARE no crowds...)
Can't see why any one phone would want 1 Gbps, but maybe somebody will show me up on that.
Such scenario can be served a lot better with wifi. When there are massive number of people, the bottleneck is always the celltower / router, not the wireless technology part. Gigabit wifi is useful. Gigabit wifi that can serve thousands and thousands of people is useful. Gigabit wifi that connect to 10Gbps internet is useful. Gigabit 5G that is still data-capped is not.
Even if they say 5G tower can better handle crowded scenes, telecoms history give me no faith that they won't underbuild and oversell ag
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You never get a speeding ticket in computing, ever. However, this is about a race between terrestrial vs sat.
Look overhead to see the new data stars in the sky that are competing for your entertainment money. Do you want that cool handheld entertainment in your living room or as you walk? Do you want one with low latency, or one with tens of thousands of links that aren't hampered by your location and the distance to a cell tower?
5G is a battle with the sats, wired cable, DSL, and fiber. If you don't like t
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When there are massive number of people, the bottleneck is always the celltower / router, not the wireless technology part.
Err, no? When you are out of wireless bandwidth, you are out of wireless bandwidth and there isn't much you can do about it. Backhaul is comparably trivial.
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This is, once they get past the LOS limits of 5g mmw.
Another example is where you need LAN speeds on a wireless network. There's a "city" where they test driverless cars. They need the LAN speeds there, but since the cars are mobile, it has to work on wireless.
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I must have 1 Gbps, especially while driving! Because, uh, reasons. That don't involve looking at the screen.
Re:Except for the UK? (Score:5, Funny)
I've heard their 5G infrastructure is blazing, fast.
Fixed that for you, you were missing the comma.
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Man, my joke totally missed. Too subtle? Well, I set you guys up as the straight man. You're welcome.
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If my area is typical, we don't have much 5G infrastructure, because people keep destroying it to prevent the aliens who secretly control our government from giving them cancer and reading their minds.
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The deep-state aliens are secretly reading our minds to give us cancer, and the 5G infrastructure enables the government stop the aliens. So the aliens are destroying the 5G infrastructure and now the government's fighting the anti-5G aliens.
Do keep up.
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Sorry, my bad. It's hard to keep track of anything when there's so much EM radiation coming from all the devices in my house. Someone told me the other day that even my lights are emitting it! I'm afraid we're all doomed.
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It did get burned pretty fast by "coronavirus is caused by 5G" types, yes.
Let me get this right (Score:3)
The first version of a new technology is slow and power hungry? You're shitting me! Brick phones used to have an hour of battery time but tech improved and here we are.
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Why did the chicken cross the road? (Score:2)
5G
Sorry, bad joke
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I was surprised it went to great effort to point out how you might lose the super fast connection while driving. Well.. duh? If you're driving, you don't need the internet (and neither does your car). Your passengers can manage to survive without it too for brief instances; give the kids a book. If you're a commuter on mass transit, they'll give you wifi in some other way, but it's far better to just take it easy than try to work while commuting, sheesh.
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Well.. duh? If you're driving, you don't need the internet (and neither does your car).
If you're walking you or away from your desk you don't need internet either. - Your post contexualised in 1990s terms.
Funny thin is your post is so shortsighted that you don't seem to realise that cars have required and benefitted from communication systems before we even got the idea of throwing a SIM card in them.
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Being able to work while commuting on a train (which is going to be faster than your car in most circumstances) is a norm in much of the world today.
But it's often limited by spotty connectivity. Fixing this would be a great asset to work efficiency.
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It's not so much that your phone can get 1 Gbps, it's that 100 phones in an area can all get a usable 10Mbps. And not just phones, mobile broadband adapters are being sold as an alternative to a fixed line for use at home.
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Brick phones had no competition, there was no other way to make mobile phone calls so they were considerably better than nothing.
In 2020 we already have 4G and WiFi so 5G better be pretty spectacular if it wants to be desirable, a reason to upgrade your phone or switch carrier.
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5G doesn't have to be pretty spectacular. Phones get replaced on about a 3 year basis, so we are about 4 years away from near-total 5G handset domination.
And yes, someone will chime in how much they love their 900MHz-only Nokia 2110. They are in luck, 2G is likely to stay alive in Europe significantly longer than 3G. It might beat 4G too.
If 5G isn't noticeably worse than 4G, it will automatically win.
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It's still better even when not used on millimetre wave. There are other improvements in 5G.
The problem is the millimetre wave is basically "we're running out of useful spectrum, and what we can squeeze out of the existing one with current technology". 5G is basically "maximum of what we can squeeze out of existing wavelengths with current technology" AND "millimetre wave". Pretty much all of 5G already deployed and in use that you can find is the former, and that part is just clear cut better than 4G. Latt
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There are other improvements in 5G
And yet all they ever advertise is faster, more speed, quicker video etc.
If there really were significant improvements worth the expense of changing all the hardware, wouldn't they have advertised that by now?
You need: A new phone, bigger battery, runs hotter. And no one is seeing any improvement yet. Why are we doing this?
Probably has better user tracking, I mean that is pretty much all anything is invented for in the past few years.
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I think we can all agree that marketers don't know shit about technology, and engineers have a hard time trying to even comprehend what it is that marketers decided to sell something as this time.
New technology not available or mature is a joke (Score:2)
news at 11. Seriously at this point 5G is what every wireless technology was at their comparable points. Get over it.
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Yes, but how are you going to get around the laws of physics?
They don't need to, they have Murphy's Law to blame when they fail.
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Yes, but how are you going to get around the laws of physics?
Exactly, the limits are not in the encoding scheme or technology, but in the bandwidth available.As long as 5G runs in the same bandwidth as 4G, don't expect miracles.
See Shannon's Law. Good explanation can be found here: https://www.waveform.com/blogs... [waveform.com]
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The major point of 5G is to avoid Shannon's Law by doing massive MIMO. 4G doesn't support that. 5G is going to be feel like a miracle for festivals, stadiums and dense cities. It will pretty cool at 700MHz for rural areas too. Suburbs and smaller towns are fine with 4G.
Re:New technology not available or mature is a jok (Score:4, Informative)
What law of physics needs to be gotten around? Are you one of those people who thinks 5G = high frequencies? If you are, please go and read up on the technology, what is is, what it does, how it works, and the several hundred changes that have been introduced that themselves have nothing to do with the air interface.
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always oversell (Score:2)
Move to a developed contry * (Score:5, Informative)
Like South Korea or Japan, and see 5G in all its glory.
More seriously: The article shows a complete lack of technicall understanding from the author. Saying that 5G is three standards depending on the frequency is like saying that GSM was 5 standards because there are implementations in 450Mhz, 800Mhz, 900Mhz, 1800Mhz and 1900Mhz. No, in GSM (and indeed in all cellular standards) the signanling, framing, etc is done in the same way, no matter which frequency the operator happens to use. Besides, 5G is called 5G because is the ONLY 5G standard worldwide. In 4G we had 2 standards, in 3G he had 3, and 3 standards also in 2G.
And this also neglects other benefits that 5G brings to the table, both for users (network slicing, improved latencies), operators (new markets, possibility to have more users attached to a single tower), or industry (autonomous freight trucks, edge computing).
So no, 5G is no joke, is simply in its early stages, wait and see.
* In terms of Telecoms. The USoA is a developed country allright, but in terms of telecoms in general, and Cellular in particular, you guys are middle of the pack at best.
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How is 5G in Israel? Aren't they the world leaders, or at least the most invested in this technology, co-operating with China?
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I'm not sure what you think you're talking about, but Israel is about as late to the party as a country can get. Hell they only auctioned off the spectrum for 5G *last month*!
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Then I propose Israel as the leader in trying out 5G. I will be eagerly awaiting their findings.
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For bottom of the pack, see "Canada".
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Forgot to add our carriers moto: "Yesterday's technology at tomorrow's prices!"
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Forgot to add our carriers moto: "Yesterday's technology at tomorrow's prices!"
Mod parent up as funny. while I do not live in the USoA, I see a lot of media from there. And what you say is true.
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I see complaints about low bandwidth in the US all the time on slashdot. I have few problems with bandwidth, cost, or reliability in Europe.
It's like shared infrastructure is built in Europe but derided as 'Marxist' in the US.
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Americans have a "lone wolf" mentality, "if you need help it's because you're weak", "only communists share resources", etc.
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For bottom of the pack, see "Canada".
I live in Venezuela. You telecoms "plight" is just 1st world problems. You get no simpathy from me. ;-) :-P
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https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of... [numbeo.com]
Internet (60 Mbps or More, Unlimited Data, Cable/ADSL)
Venezuela: 10.38$CAD
Canada: 76.53$CAD
And I have no idea where they took their "60Mbps for 76.53$CAD" numbers. I'm paying nearly 60$CAD for only 15Mbps right now.
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So no, 5G is no joke, is simply in its early stages, wait and see.
There better be obvious benefits soon, or 5G's claims will enter Quantum Computing promises territory...
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Why is it cool to dis on 5G now? (Score:2)
I was, and still am, skeptical from its promises and premises from the start. However everyone voted my posts down on here. What happened?
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Logical fallacy.
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Because Marketing promised the moon, and delivered 100-Base-T from 1998 (or there abouts).
https://dilbert.com/strip/1999... [dilbert.com]
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I was, and still am, skeptical from its promises and premises from the start. However everyone voted my posts down on here. What happened?
What makes you think it's cool? Blatant ignorance is constantly voted down, just like it is now. Your skepticism is sharing good company with all the other people who dis on 5G without having a clue what they are even talking about or what the technology is about.
Sorry what? (Score:2)
If/when driving, what exactly are you requiring 1Gbit sub-10ms connectivity for? What is the non-completely-tiny-niche use case?
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Real time upload of video from self driving cars maybe?
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Maybe you could share it with 100 other people to get 10mbit for each of you, you selfish "it's only me" prick!
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You are not. Your car may. Why does everyone think that 5G is about some person with their phone and internet connection? You are literally not at all the target market for 5G. Nearly all of the upgrades 5G brings over 4G benefits IoT applications, high density applications, time sensitive applications, broadcasting / multicasting applications, or public safety applications just to name a few.
Not everything is about *you* as a common consumer.
What were people expecting? New Physics? (Score:2)
What were people expecting? New Physics that can help put electromagnetic field theory on its head? A breakthrough in information theory that would allow communication at rates higher that Shannon's theorem allows? Whoever is complaining is just ignorant.
I'm staying with 1G thank you very much (Score:3)
Anything more than 1G feels kinda heavy.
Remember 4G LTE? (Score:4, Insightful)
Now remember the first flat screen TV's.
All the sudden everyone was buying a new TV and the TV manufacturers where delighted and amazed.
They stopped making box TVs and started making flat TV's.
Then everyone had a flat TV and sales tricked off again. Then they tried a whole shit load of gimmicks , better resolution, LED, backlit LED.
Then they tried the "curved" display. Because no one had one of those , surely it would work.
Todays 5G is a like a curved TV. Sure it might be optimal in some applications but for now it's a gimmick.
I have no complaints about my current 4G LTE service. Or my non-curved TV.
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Remember when 4G LTE was going to be the end-all be-all? the LONG TERM evolution?
How long did it last? about 6-7 years in real world deployments.
We were supposed to be able to stream movies, upload photos at blazing speeds, and browse the internet much faster due to lower latency.
And yet, here we are. WiFi is still around because Unlimited Data for phones doesn't really mean Unlimited Data after you've finished streaming your first movie on netflix.
Now we're supposed to believe 5G has "industrial" uses and
Not speed. (Score:5, Insightful)
>"But, what most people want, what most people lust for is 1Gbps speeds "
No, that couldn't be more wrong. Very few people want or expect 1Gps. What we want is not even 1/10th that speed, but:
1) Reliable- where we actually get real 10, 25, or 50Mbs continuously. Not 1Gps for 2ms every now and then, and 1Mbs the rest of the time.
2) With range and coverage- where we actually STAY connected with reasonable speed, regardless of where we are.
3) With reasonable power requirements- where we don't drain our battery in just a few hours.
Super blazing speed that only works in one square block and only outside, without moving, and without anyone else on the network, is useless.
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I'll take 1Gbps speeds when such speeds don't cost 1Gdps and throttle my connection within seconds.
What nonsense (Score:3)
what most people want, what most people lust for is 1Gbps speeds with less than 10 milliseconds of latency...
Really? Who are these "most people"? What are they planning to do with this startling performance?
What most people really want is just a stable connection providing reliable performance. As with home broadband, anything above about 40 Mbps is not going to be noticed. For what one actually does with a phone, 10 Mbps is ample.
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My mobile only gets used for text. That needs bugger all bandwidth, but it does need signal strength. If I were to design a mobile radio device just for text, it would need so little bandwidth that I could crank up the sensitivity, and probably get all the way from Birmingham, England to Sydney, Australia in one hop. Radio amateurs have been doing this narrowband text stuff for years.
1 Gbps on a mobile, why? (Score:2)
Can someone explain why I should care about 1 Gbps on a mobile device? It just seems so pointless.
5Mbps should be able to comfortably stream HD video whilst doing background app updates at the same time. I already get more than 20 Mbps with 4G.
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Thanks for the informative answer. You really contributed to the discussion.
From Bad to Worse (Score:2)
Every new G starts this way (Score:2)
5G = why you don't see smaller phones (Score:2)
Phones are getting bigger. Today, you can see only a handful of smartphone models in the market that are considered "compact", for people with smaller hands or which are suitable for one-handed use.
What is "compact" today was the norm a few years ago, and what was "compact" then is no longer available.
One contributing reason for this is 5G. It requires more power, and bigger batteries.
5G is still novel, so not all new phones are 5G phones, but you can't have a product-line where products with this fancy new
A bad joke? (Score:3)
I'll say it's bad - what with the CIA hijacking the bandwidth for mind control and the signal teleporting Covid into people's ears, there's barely enough bytes left for a simple website.
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I agree we don't need this. But, the IoT is exactly why we don't. I have upwards of 40 WiFi devices in my little 1600 sq ft home. I pay $65 per month for my internet. There is no way the idea of putting every device on 5G and paying the phone company for the service could ever compete. Even at $2 per month per connection I'd be losing money.
My phone service is also fine. Though we go beyond 20 GB of usage on each of our phones, we get by on less than 1 GB of actual mobile data usage because the phones conne
Re:I still don't get why we even need this? (Score:4, Informative)
[...] But, the IoT is exactly why we don't. I have upwards of 40 WiFi devices in my little 1600 sq ft home. [...]
The whole 5G thing is just an attempt to replace free WiFi with something that phone companies can charge monthly fees for.
No, the IoT devices that will attach to 5G will not be y(our) toys and gadgets at home, will be the smart power, gas and water meters from your utilites, smart weather and seismic sensors for scientists, Smart HVAC control systems for your building, the elevator's monitoring sensors. The autonomuos trucks, vans and drones that will deliver your shopping. The tracking systems of your car in case of theft. The traffic lights and emergency buttons in your city that currently use a bespoke RF system. You see, 5G not only has High Bandwidth modes, it has low bandwidth - low power - LOW LATNECY modes that were simply not available in the Gs before (well, in 4G those were bolted on as an afterthough late in its life, and did not get popular). In 5G, those modes are very versatile, and developed from the ground up for the protocol.
Let me give you an example. In GSM (2G), be it plain GSM, GPRS or EDGE, you DO NOT have power control for data timeslots, only for voice. This means that devicies using a 2G modem (up until now, the most popular modem for IoT) consume a lot of power, and, since there is no power control, the noise floor is raised when you have a lot of devices (like all the metters in a apt building) transmitting data on the same cell...
Also, in GSM the latency is 300~1000ms, while in 5G is 10~20ms INDEPENDENT OF THE FREQUENCY (the article's aurthor is wrong). As long as both the radio is New Radio, and the Core is a 5G core (5G is the first G that let's you mix and match core and radio if you wish, see Stand Alone 5G vs Non-Stand-alone 5G)*. By the way, 4G's latency is 20~50ms (if memory serves).
Your toys at home (like y(our) vacuum robot, mop robot, chromecast, cell phone, desktop**) will still hook up to your home wifi, do not worry, 5G will not replace your wonderfull WiFi with something that the phone company can charge monthly fees for... ;-)
So, next time remember, IoT is not only about toys and gimmicks for consumers, it has legitimate use cases.
PS: If you want a 100% Stand Alone 5G network, wait for Dish, since they are unencumbered by the past, they will surely launch a 5G Stand Alone Network, the core is actually cheaper (because of the cloud native implementation) ;-) .
* You can deploy a 5G core (5GC) with only 4G towers and still call the resulting thing a 5G network. You will get improved latencies, and the benefits of a cloud based core architecture, and certain other goodies, but with the speed of 4G. Likewise, you can deploy 5G NewRadio cells to a 4G core (EPC Evolved Packet Core), and call the resulting network 5G. As a matter of fact, all operators in the USoA are using 5G NR towers conected to a 4G core, in what is known as NSA 5G (i can't recall the mode, there are many, i think in the USoA all are using option #3)
**My desktop connects to the internet via wifi, the two eth ports go bonded and direct Attached to the DS1515+, and only the DS.
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No, the IoT devices that will attach to 5G will not be y(our) toys and gadgets at home, will be the smart power, gas and water meters from your utilites, smart weather and seismic sensors for scientists, Smart HVAC control systems for your building, the elevator's monitoring sensors. The autonomuos trucks, vans and drones that will deliver your shopping. The tracking systems of your car in case of theft. The traffic lights and emergency buttons in your city that currently use a bespoke RF system. You see, 5G not only has High Bandwidth modes, it has low bandwidth - low power - LOW LATNECY modes that were simply not available in the Gs before (well, in 4G those were bolted on as an afterthough late in its life, and did not get popular). In 5G, those modes are very versatile, and developed from the ground up for the protocol.
Sorry, I just don't see all that happening, or it's all being done some other way and why would they change it? Also many of those things should not be on the Internet in the first place, they should airgapped from the internet at all times for safety reasons. I think this is a disaster waiting to happen and I hope it all just falls apart.
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I did not need a mobile phone when I was a lad, for the reason that they had not been invented. Now get off my lawn.
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Yeah who would ever fill up a 10 megabyte hard drive? Who would ever need multiple cpu cores? Who would ever need a GPU for displaying pixels...
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Yeah who would ever fill up a 10 megabyte hard drive?
You arent making a point. There were lots of people who filled their first 10meg RLL or MFM disks and could articulate why they needed to do so.
So have not articulated a need for 5G.
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As others have stated, say an event at a stadium.
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You're so angry because you're wrong. Apparently the entire cell phone industry is wasting money. You better shoot them an email and alert them.
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Maybe your anger stems from being on a poorly configured 5G tower.
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[...] and I don't want to hear about 'All the industrial uses for Internet of Things' because I just don't believe that, either, what we already have should serve all those things more than adequately. [...]
With network Slicing, 5G allows you to give QoS guarantees to the Industrial IoT in ways that were not possible in 2G, 3G and original 4G. In latter 4G (LTE Advanced) that was bolted on as an aftertought, but were not nearly as versatile and well integrated as in 5G.
Let me give you an example: In GSM (2G), be it plain GSM, GPRS or EDGE, you DO NOT have power control for data timeslots, only for voice. This means that devicies using a 2G modem (up until now, the most popular modem for industrial IoT applica
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Seriously, why do we even need this?
In the next 5-10 years, you will find out.
Nope, I do not have a crystal ball so I cannot tell you what those new things will be. But I know that no one predicted or expected Amazon, Facebook, TikTok, etc, before Internet access became as widespread as telephone. Nobody predicted Twitch before broadband became widespread.
The only thing slowing down 5G rollout in a country would achieve, is to let startups in other countries establish themselves first, in the same way FB and Google gained dominance in the U
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It's a trade war, not a cold war. And China already won.
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I'm not seeing who/what you reply to, but I see you're in a box, in a box... so your parents have been deleted.
You make a simple (or not so simple if you have more time) script that will look for annoying users, or look for known patterns in the posts and delete them, very simple
I would have left
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"He", nice samefagging.
Your inconveniences are because of constant VPN and TOR usage, which has been endlessly abused by trolls, spammers, and all manner of cunts because the internet has been going to shit since the late 2000s.
Re: Couple of reasons why today's Internet is usel (Score:2, Informative)
Ya but he does it 35 times a day no fuking wonder everyone on the planet hates him
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Those that will "need" 5G on their mobile phones change them every 1-2 years anyway. For us who keep phones for significantly longer (mine is closing in on 5 years), we really do not care about the G number.
Also, as others have explained, the improvements in 5G are not mainly for the mobile phone uses. It is for use where low latency is needed, as described in other posts.