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Former Facebook Manager: 'We Took a Page From Big Tobacco's Playbook' (arstechnica.com) 115

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Speaking to Congress today, the former Facebook manager first tasked with making the company make money did not mince words about his role. He told lawmakers that the company "took a page from Big Tobacco's playbook, working to make our offering addictive at the outset" and arguing that his former employer has been hugely detrimental to society. His analogy continued: "Tobacco companies initially just sought to make nicotine more potent. But eventually that wasn't enough to grow the business as fast as they wanted. And so they added sugar and menthol to cigarettes so you could hold the smoke in your lungs for longer periods. At Facebook, we added status updates, photo tagging, and likes, which made status and reputation primary and laid the groundwork for a teenage mental health crisis. Allowing for misinformation, conspiracy theories, and fake news to flourish were like Big Tobacco's bronchodilators, which allowed the cigarette smoke to cover more surface area of the lungs. But that incendiary content alone wasn't enough. To continue to grow the user base and in particular, the amount of time and attention users would surrender to Facebook, they needed more."

Tim Kendall, who served as director of monetization for Facebook from 2006 through 2010, spoke to Congress today as part of a House Commerce subcommittee hearing examining how social media platforms contribute to the mainstreaming of extremist and radicalizing content.
"The social media services that I and others have built over the past 15 years have served to tear people apart with alarming speed and intensity," Kendall said in his opening testimony (PDF). "At the very least, we have eroded our collective understanding -- at worst, I fear we are pushing ourselves to the brink of a civil war." As director of monetization, he added, "We sought to mine as much attention as humanly possible... We took a page form Big Tobacco's playbook, working to make our offering addictive at the outset."
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Former Facebook Manager: 'We Took a Page From Big Tobacco's Playbook'

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  • by niftydude ( 1745144 ) on Thursday September 24, 2020 @10:47PM (#60542100)
    If the US ends up in a civil war due to the actions of a bunch of social media "influencers" and marketing teams, then the average american is far more stupid than ever I imagined.

    Does anyone else see this as self-serving crud that Facebook shareholders/management use to push the narrative that they are more influential than they are, and hence push up their advertising rates?

    I know there's some emotionally stunted adults using it and screaming loudly at everything, but in the real world I only know about 2-3 people that use that site or app regularly.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Krishnoid ( 984597 )

      What if it ends up in a civil war due to the actions of a single powerful person who tries to undermine the existing electoral system?

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by knarf ( 34928 )

        I don't think a single person is in control of the DNC. More a group of people who each pull their strings, mostly to the left but not all in the same direction.

        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          The DNC was bailed out of near-bankruptcy by.... the Clinton Foundation back in 2015, as was well-documented on Naked Capitalism. So yes, one person or a very small group of yes-men do in fact control it.

        • I don't think a single person is in control of the DNC. More a group of people who each pull their strings, mostly to the left but not all in the same direction.

          You misspelled "center" as "left" there.

          You know what's at the center? The drain.

      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        What if it ends up in a civil war due to the actions of a single powerful person who tries to undermine the existing electoral system?

        A civil war needs at the very least a lot of useful idiots in addition. If one person tries to stay in power by a criminal act, no problem. Prison time or execution for the traitor, all other can just continue to go about their business as normal.

    • but they're one more match on the fire.

      The main problem is that our oligarchs made effective adjustments to their tactics after their losses to labor in the 40s and 50s and their losses to the Civil Rights movement in the 60s and 70s. They came back with a vengeance in the 80s using wedge issues & bigotry to divide us, they took over the churches (where working class people had been organizing), created a defacto hereditary military class so we wouldn't get drafted to war and fight together, took ov
      • by Powercntrl ( 458442 ) on Friday September 25, 2020 @12:26AM (#60542206) Homepage

        The problem is it took me several paragraphs just to outline what the 1% did.

        The wealthy are a minority, and in a democracy a minority's interests are only upheld when they can sway public opinion in their favor. Can you really blame them?

        • by Shotgun ( 30919 )

          And, for that reason, I regularly thank God that I don't live in a democracy.

        • the wealthy do _not_ govern with the consent of public opinion. This is a common error.

          The wealthy govern primarily by creating caste systems. India's castes, America's racial & religious divides, China's Uighurs, heck when Japan had no obvious castes due to their homogeneity they created one out of whole cloth (the Burakumin).

          This divides the working class and gets them "punching down" (see Beau of the Fifth Column on YouTube for more on this term). It's a basic divide on conquer strat. It's be
          • heck when Japan had no obvious castes due to their homogeneity they created one out of whole cloth (the Burakumin).

            This is what happens when one's sole source of history is YouTube videos. Combine that with some prejudiced stereotyping, and out pops malarkey like this.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Don't underestimate the power of social media though. For example if there is a civil war, or more likely just some violence after the election, a lot of it will be down to QAnon conspiracy nuts and spurred on by Trump's tweets.

        • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

          by Shotgun ( 30919 )

          Sure. And the Antifa/BLM rioters, supported by the DA elected with Soros money, will have nothing to do with it. Wink. Wink.

          All those buildings that burned to the ground were started by a Trump tweet, and a Trump tweet shot Breonna Taylor.

      • Re: (Score:2, Offtopic)

        by DrSpock11 ( 993950 )

        And the Illuminati have been planning this all for hundreds of years to boot...

        Sorry to burst your bubble but your post is filled with misinformation.

        - In the 1980's, Karl Rove was a low-level official who handled direct mailing for the Reagan campaign. He certainly was not in any position to direct a vast conspiracy. He didn't rise to prominence in the Republican party 2000 when working on on George W Bush's campaign. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
        - In 2016, the Republican establishment (includi

    • Again with the “civil war” doomsaying.

      A large majority of Americans don’t even care enough about politics one way or another to even bother to go vote. There may be some absolutely epic online flamewars over politics, but the real-world equivalent isn’t going to extend beyond some angry mobs torching unoccupied buildings. Even then, that only happens because the handful of perpetrators who do that sort of thing are under the (incorrect) impression they’re unlikely to face leg

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by geekmux ( 1040042 )

        Again with the “civil war” doomsaying.

        A large majority of Americans don’t even care enough about politics one way or another to even bother to go vote. There may be some absolutely epic online flamewars over politics, but the real-world equivalent isn’t going to extend beyond some angry mobs torching unoccupied buildings. Even then, that only happens because the handful of perpetrators who do that sort of thing are under the (incorrect) impression they’re unlikely to face legal repercussions for their actions.

        How many stupid demonstrators filling streets and turning buildings to ash do you really think it takes before you are sitting in your home, living in fear, trying to protect yourself and your loved ones?

        Answer: A fuck of a lot less than their justification.

        Good luck with that delusional theory that justice will prevail when the local precinct is the first building torched, and cops logically say "Fuck this shit", and quit.

        • Goldwater, is that you?

          • Goldwater, is that you?

            Common F. Sense is the name.

            I know. A lot of people thought I was killed off by Greed N. Corruption. Not yet.

            Problem is, I have too many stupid enemies now. I've got no chance in hell.

            Neither does civility, morality, or humanity.

            • You've been duped man. Or you have no sense of scale. Maybe you're racist and primed to believe the bullshit. Maybe you're just a naturally fearful person. Enjoy your life of faux outrage, fear, and oppression.

        • by Shotgun ( 30919 )

          Instead of sitting at home in fear, I think the data has shown that a large number of Americans have stocked up on ammo. However, I suspect that is mostly in the suburbs, and the rioting is mostly limited to city centers.

          • Instead of sitting at home in fear, I think the data has shown that a large number of Americans have stocked up on ammo.

            Numbers can be misleading. Could be one angry Texan buying up 10 million rounds. Honestly, given the cost of ammo right now and the unemployment rate, I kind of doubt that many people were blowing a government paycheck on ammo.

            And they're still sitting in their homes in fear. Being armed only makes you feel slightly better about the current shituation. Believe me.

            However, I suspect that is mostly in the suburbs, and the rioting is mostly limited to city centers.

            Violence and crime in city centers is merely being done to make a statement. Very few are benefiting or profiting from it.

            When the money runs

            • Numbers can be misleading, individual NICS checks cannot. Per all available data there are many, many first time gun owners(a much greater percentage than normal black or female per many gun store owners anecdoes) that started buying guns after Burn, Loot, Murder and the Antifatards started burning shit to the ground and Soros funded DA's kept letting them walk.

        • of those that aren't 5% have been identified as out of state agitators trying to stir up trouble. Only about 2% of the protests went violent and most of that was from the early days. There is very, very little violence.

          If violence happens it'll come from the right wing militias. The FBI has a mountain of statistics on this; or had, the current administration has been heavily discouraging the accumulation of data on right wing militias. Even so we know right wing extremists have killed more Americans tha
          • of those that aren't 5% have been identified as out of state agitators trying to stir up trouble. Only about 2% of the protests went violent and most of that was from the early days. There is very, very little violence.

            So far.

            If violence happens it'll come from the right wing militias. The FBI has a mountain of statistics on this; or had, the current administration has been heavily discouraging the accumulation of data on right wing militias. Even so we know right wing extremists have killed more Americans than 9/11.

            So, if the FBI has only been suppressed from collecting right wing data, care to explain how they did not predict or prevent CHAZ/CHOP violence and death? Does BLM even warrant opening a file, or does that deadly violence somehow not count?

            "They're worse than us!" Yeah, like we need more fucking flames. From either side.

            I'm no fan of Right or Left right now. Because of shit-slinging like this. Keep looking Right, and you'll never see the gut punch from the Left. In case you hadn't noticed, AL

            • at this point the only way those numbers are going to change is if the other side (e.g. anti-BLM) goes hot. They've got the ammo for it too.

              As for the CHAZ/CHOP "violence and death"... really hard to stop something that didn't happen. You need to go back on your meds man. Or off them. Or get different ones. I don't know. The point is, see a professional.
              • at this point the only way those numbers are going to change is if the other side (e.g. anti-BLM) goes hot. They've got the ammo for it too. As for the CHAZ/CHOP "violence and death"... really hard to stop something that didn't happen. You need to go back on your meds man. Or off them. Or get different ones. I don't know. The point is, see a professional.

                The deaths related to CHAZ/CHOP are not even up for dispute. Perhaps speaking to a mother of a dead child will convince you. You need to lay off the fucking politics. Or grow up and learn to accept facts. From Wiki:

                "In the early morning hours of June 29, a fourth shooting left a 16-year-old boy dead and a 14-year-old boy in critical condition with gunshot injuries."

                And if you think this was some fucking glorified Burning Man like Seattles mayor views it, go talk to Oklahoma City folks who laid down te

      • I'm not quite sure if your trolling, ignorant or willfully ignorant. On the off chance you happen to simply be ignorant. In the Twin Cities metro area alone there were over 1500 buildings that were damaged, destroyed and burned to the ground.

        https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyl... [yahoo.com]

        The BLM and Antifa rioters didn't target empty buildings. A number of times the lit buildings on fire while people were inside them.
        https://www.kptv.com/news/poli... [kptv.com]

        Sometimes they did so quite deliberately, trying to burn them alive.
        http [dailymail.co.uk]

    • You probably know 2 or 3 that never pull the phone from their face. How many go home and cruise the Information Supersewer for a couple hours every night, and don't make a point to tell you about it?

      Its impact is not to be underestimated. In undeveloped countries, where people are slightly less intelligent, visitors to the village are get called pedophiles or demons etc. on FB and a flash mobs shows up to stone them to death the next day. Do you think India and Africa have more FB users, or less?
      The average

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      If the US ends up in a civil war, it will not be because of the actions of a bunch of social media "influencers", it will be because of the comprehensive lack of actual political input into the US political system from the "small man", who indoctrinated into the notion that the US is "his" country, which it is not.

      The facebooks and the twitters may make the problems obvious and make the radical ends of the political spectrum a bit more visible, but without a bunch of people who are ready to hear the extreme

    • It has happened before, and it's all about money and power in reality.

      A revolution is necessary - in the form of revising the election system to make it easier for more parties to enter the political scene and break the bipolar disorder that exists.

    • by istartedi ( 132515 ) on Friday September 25, 2020 @03:06AM (#60542414) Journal

      There have been plenty of civil wars all over the world before there was social media. Plenty of countries had slaves, but the US seems to be unique in having torn itself asunder and drenched itself in blood over the issue. I don't think you can blame the newspapers, which would be the equivalent of social media at the time. I think it might have had something to do with our (also unique) combination of Puritan heritage which made abolition a crusade rather than a compromise, and on the Southern side there was paranoia about what the North would do if it had the votes to abolish. Religious zeal vs. paranoia. Sound familiar? Nothing to do with media, everything to do with the psychological make-up of our nation. I hope I'm wrong.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Hard to see how you could compromise on the abolition of slavery... Although the US managed it somehow, i.e. it's still legal for prisoners.

        Really it's down to treating capitalism like a religion and individualism being a core part of American values. The proposition was to cause massive economic harm to a bunch of people by ending their source of extremely low cost labour. Look at how upset people get now being told to lockdown or wear a mask, and imagine how people felt when they were told their businesse

        • by Shaeun ( 1867894 )

          Hard to see how you could compromise on the abolition of slavery... .

          Great Britain did... Brazil did.. Quite a few countries did.

      • combination of Puritan heritage which made abolition a crusade rather than a compromise

        We had a compromise.

        Then the slave states realized they'd continue to be out-voted, and did not like that. So they abandoned the compromise, started several insurrections out West, and then started the civil war.

    • by 1s44c ( 552956 )

      The 2-3 people you mention are within your circle of friends, family, and work colleges. These are probably mostly educated professions or reasonably successful and stable smart people.

      There are plenty of people who read a story on facebook or actual hate sites and accept it as true without any further evidence required. Many of those people are extremely angry about supposed injustices. Many of them are armed. You can call these people stupid, and you are probably right, but they definitely exist in very l

      • by Shaeun ( 1867894 )

        The 2-3 people you mention are within your circle of friends, family, and work colleges. These are probably mostly educated professions or reasonably successful and stable smart people.

        There are plenty of people who read a story on facebook or actual hate sites and accept it as true without any further evidence required. Many of those people are extremely angry about supposed injustices. Many of them are armed. You can call these people stupid, and you are probably right, but they definitely exist in very large numbers. I've met plenty of rant about the conspiracy of the day like it's absolute fact and I've seen governments use the same tactics to gather support for military action with entirely fabricated stories.

        This has less to do with stupid people and more to do with a lack of trust in our media institutions. When you can see they are clearly biased who do you trust?
        Some people choose poorly. This does not make them stupid, it makes them ignorant of how to determine truth from fiction (this is a skill)
        but calling people stupid just polarizes them against you and perpetuates the problem

    • by dkone ( 457398 ) on Friday September 25, 2020 @06:07AM (#60542622)

      "If the US ends up in a civil war due to the actions of a bunch of social media "influencers" and marketing teams, then the average american is far more stupid than ever I imagined."

      I just chalk that up to you not having a very good imagination.

    • "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it!"

      • "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it!"

        Sad that much like Orwell, fictional musings turned into a fucking prophecy.

        Intelligence isn't just rare now. It's being targeted and assassinated by stupidity.

        And there aren't enough brains to go around, to prevent it.

        • by gweihir ( 88907 )

          Well, imagine the most stupid thing that can happen. Write it down. Wait a while and see some group of people taking it as an instruction manual.

          The average person is astonishingly stupid. And 50% are below that. That we have some really smart people in the human race is really no indicator for the intellectual competence of the rest.

        • Life imitates art? Life intimates fart?
    • by Myrdos ( 5031049 )

      then the average american is far more stupid than ever I imagined.

      Are you aware they elected Donald Trump as their president?

      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        then the average american is far more stupid than ever I imagined.

        Are you aware they elected Donald Trump as their president?

        They may yet top that pinnacle of stupidity by electing him again...

    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      If the US ends up in a civil war due to the actions of a bunch of social media "influencers" and marketing teams, then the average american is far more stupid than ever I imagined.

      Given recent evidence, that may indeed be the case.

  • by FudRucker ( 866063 ) on Thursday September 24, 2020 @11:07PM (#60542124)
    into theft by lies and deception, they know they can get away with it because the government does not care to go after white collar criminals most of the time, since everything can be bought, if a white collar criminal can make enough money they can buy themselves out of trouble and still make a profit, they just call it the cost of doing business,
    • Straight out - slavery under indentured debt.

      • by Shotgun ( 30919 )

        Huh? Is someone signing your name to credit applications? I mean, we don't even have debtor's prisons anymore. Who is beating you or selling off your children to pay debts?

    • they know they can get away with it because the government does not care to go after white collar criminals most of the time, since everything can be bought

      It's because the government is primarily a bunch of white collar criminals. Pork is fraud, and defrauding the federal government is a felony. These bastards have to keep the system going or they're ALL going to lose their heads.

  • Isn't that annual thing now? Tell a boomer you care about. Tell them what they're really handing over when they upload those family memories. Tell them being in a bubble leads to dementia. Get em unhooked.
  • "We took a page from Adolf Hitler's playbook ..."

    Hopefully Amazon doesn't try to invade Russia with that as a reference. And I'm sure Alphabet is using someone more noble like Napoleon as their inspiration.

  • by mtm10 ( 1530769 ) on Thursday September 24, 2020 @11:39PM (#60542160) Homepage

    Slashdot adds status updates, photo tagging and likes to its comments section...

  • Making a product people love and want to use is bad now?

    Also, aren't facebook users more to blame for this? I mean, facebook was tempted by the fact that users wanted it so bad. If you're broke and someone offers you a way to make money .. wouldn't you do it? Don't lie. You're guilty, but so is the one giving you revenue.

    • Making a product people love and want to use is bad now?

      Fucking hell. Yeah, OK addict. Talk about delusional. There's a reason you "love and want" that shit. And it was manufactured.

      Also, aren't facebook users more to blame for this? I mean, facebook was tempted by the fact that users wanted it so bad. If you're broke and someone offers you a way to make money .. wouldn't you do it? Don't lie. You're guilty, but so is the one giving you revenue.

      OK, so we're going to legalize prostitution for the millions of unemployed in dead industries? Think the women you know will be up for it? Don't lie. If someone offers you a way to make money...

      (Yes. Desperation will get this bad, due to unemployment. People have to eat.)

    • by Rhipf ( 525263 )

      Making a product people love and want to use is bad now?

      Are you talking about Facebook or tobacco in that statement? 8^)

  • by Powercntrl ( 458442 ) on Friday September 25, 2020 @12:38AM (#60542230) Homepage

    Big tobacco profited from selling literal poison that would put you through withdrawal symptoms if you tried to quit. Furthermore, the nasty health effects of smoking are a direct result of consuming the product. The problems caused by Facebook are absolutely not inherent to the platform itself. One can easily find misinformation, propaganda, and toxic social interaction on plenty of other places on the internet, and if Facebook ceased to exist something else would fill the void (ie: Twitter decided to purge racists from their platform and Gab sprung up).

    Facebook is basically just holding a mirror up to society, and it's not Facebook's fault if we don't like what we see.

    • by yassa2020 ( 6703044 ) on Friday September 25, 2020 @01:24AM (#60542282)
      But Facebook *is* poison. It's their algorithm that does the harm. You hold up alternative social media softwares as evidence that "it" is not necessarily poison, but that's what precisely differentiates the non-poison with the poison. Facebook's algorithm. Gab, the example you site, runs Mastodon, which doesn't pick and choose the most vitriolic and most interacted posts in order to decide what to show you, while Facebook does, and so in a sense is much closer to the "holding up a mirror to society" analogy, while Facebook is more like a Black Mirror.
      • poison, noun: a substance that is capable of causing the illness or death of a living organism when introduced or absorbed.

        I'm not trying to be pedantic. The point is that words like "addictive" and "poison" mean specific things and they are being used as weasel words by people who are trying to appeal to emotion rather than making objective, logical and rational arguments.

        It's their algorithm that does the harm

        1) Which algorithm, specifically?
        2) Quantify "harm"
        3) Show a concrete, casual connection between 1 and 2

        Otherwise it's pure weasel speak

        • No. Your handwaving doesn't make the harm go away. It's obvious. It's also obvious which algrorithm so it's also obvious that you are either trolling or a shill, or both.

          I'm not trying to be pedantic.

          And yet you've succeed at it.

          Show a concrete, casual connection between 1 and 2. Otherwise it's pure weasel speak

          Yeah, unless I personally prosecute a case against Facebook beyond any reasonable doubt, I am a weasel. STFU weasel.

        • Cool! Now link the definition of metaphor.

    • > Facebook is basically just holding a mirror up to society, and it's not Facebook's fault if we don't like what we see.

      Mirror implies lack of bias, which is not the case. You have personalized distortion in the mirrors, so that you can see what they want you to see.
      • Actually, scratch that. It's more like using a mirror app on your phone. Records you, sends the data back home, while showing you something with who knows how many filters applied. While advertising itself about how through using it you will see the "real you" or something
    • by geekmux ( 1040042 ) on Friday September 25, 2020 @03:34AM (#60542444)

      Big tobacco profited from selling literal poison that would put you through withdrawal symptoms if you tried to quit. Furthermore, the nasty health effects of smoking are a direct result of consuming the product. The problems caused by Facebook are absolutely not inherent to the platform itself. One can easily find misinformation, propaganda, and toxic social interaction on plenty of other places on the internet, and if Facebook ceased to exist something else would fill the void (ie: Twitter decided to purge racists from their platform and Gab sprung up).

      Facebook is basically just holding a mirror up to society, and it's not Facebook's fault if we don't like what we see.

      Facebook is not merely a mirror. It is the tool creating and propagating this shit.

      You have no idea how much content on Facebook, is even created by a machine. To manipulate. To addict. To control.

      And this isn't "Facebook" we're talking about here. It is all social media. If Facebook ceased to exist, addiction and greed will fill that void when it shouldn't ever be fucking filled again.

      Propaganda machines this powerful usually turn into war machines. THAT is why we need to seriously deal with this. Rampant narcissism and attention whoring are the next issues to address before they destroy our youth.

    • If it is a mirror, it's a funhouse mirror designed to distort, enhance and minimize the reality reflected in it. Humanity has some pretty ugly flaws but Facebook has to own up to its responsibility in shaping that mirror.

  • After he dies in a burning van he can go fuck off and sing Futuristic Sex Robotz "Fuck the MPAA".
    • After he dies in a burning van he can go fuck off and sing Futuristic Sex Robotz "Fuck the MPAA".

      The world needed to hear this. It's worth repeating. Testifying in court with. Again and again.

      And here you are, shallow enough to tie your jealousy over his net worth to continued silence. Every sinner, can find value in redemption. Even you.

  • I'd agree that Facebook and other forms of social media have done about as much damage as big tobacco did to society. It's a pathogen that just keeps on giving. My dehumidifier is more useful than Facebook.
  • by geekmux ( 1040042 ) on Friday September 25, 2020 @03:09AM (#60542420)

    We knew this years ago, confirmed by the very CEOs of social media companies.

    "Do you let your own children use your products?

    Answer: No.

    All social media has become, is a tool to manipulate the masses. It is now a tool of the intelligence gathering communities the world over. It has been one of the, if not THE primary tool used to destroy privacy. And much like the drug dealer wanting to addict a new customer, the concept of giving it away for free the first time, simply stuck.

    Attention Whore is now a valid profession rife with millionaires (yes, we love it so), and narcissism consumes our youth to the point where a considerable negative impact in social media status can initiate suicides rather easily. Enjoy the after-effects of this shit. Psychologists will for decades. Reap what you sow.

  • Watch Netflix's "The Social Dilemma [wikipedia.org]". Fantastic documentary, despite its very depressing content. Tim Kendal is one of the many former social network employees interviewed.

  • Not the root cause (Score:4, Insightful)

    by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Friday September 25, 2020 @06:04AM (#60542612)

    Every company is ultimately playing the playbook of trying to get customers addicted to a product, but there are huge differences between companies like Facebook / Apple / Google, and Big Tabaco. The tabaco companies dosed up people chemically. Whereas *every* other company does little more than exploit the human weakness of being addicted to something that feels good.

    Whether it's the feeling of belonging to a select crowd of shiny iPhone users, or the feeling of happiness when someone hits that like button acknowledging that you exist, or that feeling after you came back from a gym, or just ate something delicious. It all is related to endorphines.

    The root problem is people have this insane need to be acknowledged and recognised. It strokes their ego, and stroking egos releases endorphins, and *that* is what you get addicted to. Facebook is a fucking scourge on society, but providing a system to share something, talk to others, and hit a few likes is not what makes them evil and doesn't remotely equate them to what Big Tobaco was doing.

  • by OneHundredAndTen ( 1523865 ) on Friday September 25, 2020 @08:29AM (#60542858)
    In a celebrated article in the early 70s he put it in black and white: the mission of corporations is to maximize profits for themselves and their shareholders within the law, and without any ethical or moral considerations. Many still think that's a good idea.

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