There Are Over 3 Billion Active Android Devices (theverge.com) 66
There are over 3 billion active Android devices in the wild now. Sameer Samat, VP of product management at Google, announced the news at Google I/O 2021 today. From a report: Google added over 500 million active Android devices since its last developer's conference in 2019 and 1 billion devices since 2017. (That was when it hit the 2 billion mark.) The number is taken from the Google Play Store, which doesn't take into account devices based on Android but that use alternative stores, including Amazon Fire devices and the myriad of Chinese Android-based devices that avoid using Google's apps altogether. That means the number of active Android devices is likely much higher than what Samat announced on the live stream.
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"People will never stop making up quotes on the internet." - Abraham Lincoln
Can we stop calling Apple... (Score:1)
...a monopoly? This figure proves they aren't. And shut down that nuisance suit by those grifters Epic.
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Heh. I've never tried this, can you run Apache in Chrome?
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Yes. [google.com]
Numerous lighter weight options exist as well. Apache may not be the best fit for a device designed mainly not to serve Web content but to consume it.
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Call me when Linux makes it to the desktop.
60 million Chromebooks run Linux.
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How much overhead? (Score:2)
I'm curious how well that works. How much I/O and memory overhead does the container impose on a Linux OS running on a Chromebook?
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How much I/O and memory overhead does the container impose
What container?
ChromeOS is Linux. It runs as the factory-installed native OS on Chromebooks.
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All applications in Chrome OS other than the Chrome web browser itself are run in a Crostini container.
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Call me when anyone takes Windows seriously in the mobile or super-computer space. /s
Considering Linux runs on 100% of the Top 500 Super comptuers [top500.org] (since Nov 2017), run on 3 Billion phones, and Microsoft has over 60% of Azure [microsoft.com] running Linux, I'd say that's not bad for "just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu"
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Haha, yeah, I remember reading about that. Wired ran this article [wired.com] back in 1998.
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Circa mid-1990s: Most Windows desktops become thin clients accessing Linux servers. (Previously, they were thin clients accessing Unix servers.) "Call me when Linux becomes the dominant server platform."
Circa early- to mid-2000s: Linux becomes the dominant server platform, mostly obsoleting commercial Unix. "Call me when Linux runs in large numbers on anything besides a server."
Circa early to mid-2010s: Linux becomes the dominant operating system in the world, largely but not exclusively because it is now not only the dominant server, but also the dominant client operating system, thanks to Android, with most of the rest of the market taken by iOS (a UNIX): "Call me when Linux runs on the desktop." (That's where you are now.)
Circa 2021: A majority of Azure instances run Linux. Windows runs Linux (WSL/WSL2). You can install Ubuntu on Windows. You also can install SQL Server on Linux. Linux dominates on low- to mid-range laptops (chromebooks). Among the dominant operating systems for embedded devices and the Internet of Things. Still not dominant on the desktop, and possibly might never be. But it is not only dominant but almost universal everyplace else. "Waah. I have no stupid quips more recent than circa 2010."
Desktops (thin clients for mostly Linux-based apps) are a rounding error compared to the markets in which Linux not only prospers but dominates.
But, recognizing this, Microsoft has become a valuable contributor to the open-source world. Its .NET Core platform is now open-source and cross-platform. Millions of Linux VM hosts run Windows, and even more Windows VM hosts run Linux. You are no longer tied to either platform for new software development projects. With some effort - more than there should be granted - one codebase can work across Android, Linux, iOS, and Windows.
I like how things have worked out. If you don't, feel free to contribute toward making them work in a way that better suits you.
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Agreeing with all of this, except for a couple of things that MS has done better than anyone else: NTFS and Active Directory. To my knowledge no other journaled file system has managed to pass the Pentagon's security testing, which is why almost all of the US military's portable computers run Windows. In the enterprise there is no replacement for Active Directory and Group Policy when managing more than a couple hundred end users.
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Call me when Linux makes it to the desktop.
To which the rest of the world responds with one of the following:
Nerds: Well actually, Windows can already run Linux. We called. You didn't pick up.
Typical Windows user: It's a work PC. I don't know what IT installs on it. They probably already installed Linux if it was a required Windows update.
Typical Mac user: Is that malware? It sounds like malware. I'm pretty sure Macs are immune.
Gen Z: [typing on a smartphone running *nix] What's a desktop?
Kids: [pecking on a school Chromebook running Linux] What's a
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How often is it that we actually hear about a marquee title being developed first for PC vs. how often do we have to wait months or years for a bug-riddled port of the console version that does the bare minimum to distinguish itself as being "for PC"?
It depends on what you mean by "a marquee title". Indie games are PC-first if not PC-only.
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There will be some say that Android isn't a Real Linux OS, but a different OS running the Linux Kernel.
What a lot of people call Linux, is more commonly called GNU/Linux. But Linux is to Android is like BSD is to iOS.
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Linux will never work for mass-market devices.
... nobody's ever said that.
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I wish that were so.
But I still hear it or something like it today. Even in this very thread.
What they might more accurately say is that typical Linux distributions are a suboptimal fit for typical Windows users, especially if they run software or hardware that only supports Windows, which there still is plenty of, although less and less each year.
Or that the freedom and hence choice available to users of Linux and other free operating systems can be overwhelming to new users.
These would be reasonable poin
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The reason nobody thinks Linux is ready for the desktop is the user interface. The picture people have in their heads of a 'Linux smartphone' better resembles Windows Mobile/CE devices (i.e. desktop shrunk down) than the fully-rebuilt-from-scratch iPhone'ish UI Android phones use today.
Using Chromebooks or Android to brag about Linux being brought to the masses is like bragging about how many times you've been laid... by hookers.
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Which user interface?
Some are quite Windows-like. Others are not. Most can be configured to be either. I use XFCE4 in close to the default configuration. It doesn't look exactly like Windows, but it's close enough that I have no trouble moving back and forth between the two.
The real obstacles I see are (a) the proliferation of options and choices rather than the "one size fits all, eat what you are given" mentality of Windows, and (b) incompatibility with Windows-only hardware and software. Neither is
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The Chinese and Indian Linux distributions have settled on an XP-clone interface for their systems, and it appears to be acceptable to end users. The state of Kerala alone saved something like $400 million in MS licenses, with minimal disruption. The big sticking point that I've seen are the gigantic Excel spreadsheets that seem to evolve like something alive which the various open source spreadsheets choke on, but most of those things should have a stake put through their heart and be replaced with a dat
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A slight segue, but this is my experience with the abuse of MSOffice docs, which now goes back nearly 3 decades.
Most of the table-heavy Word docs should be using or embedding Excel worksheets.
Most of the dozen-or-more-tabs Excel workbooks laden with cross-worksheet references and formulas, that break when you insert a row or sort something, should be Access databases.
Most of the abominations consisting of hundreds of not normalized tables spanning multiple Access databases should be actual applications, des
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I've always thought that the reason Excel spreadsheets got so bloated was because the interfaces to all the DB products sucked so badly.
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Access, Paradox, xBase, and FileMaker were just some of the efforts to provide quasi-relational database products easy enough for typical end users to use effectively.
My take is that a lot of folks could not be bothered to learn the relational model, and even today, and even amongst developers, that remains the case much more often than not.
So they ended up re-inventing it, but very, very poorly.
Next on /. (Score:2)
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Next on slashdot, brand loyal cucks keyboard smashing from their parents basement defend predatory practices of multi trillion dollar companies that don't care about them.
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Approximately nobody argues that Apple is a monopoly. People argue that Apple has violated antitrust laws and has enough market power for those violations to seriously adversely affect consumers. A monopoly is neither necessary nor sufficient for violating antitrust laws.
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Oh, no question about it. Amazon has far more power over the average consumer in the broader sense, and far more potential for abuse, at least in theory.
Amazon's saving grace is their general lack of competence, from their search engine that is so bad that I'm constantly searching Amazon using Google, to how hard it is to quickly report problems that should get someone's attention without wasting fifteen minutes on a chat session, to the complete chaos of low-quality products proliferating on their platfo
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An average salary of $103,000/year is slavery? Who'd a thunk it.
https://www.payscale.com/resea... [payscale.com]
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I'm guessing that doesn't include all the contractors (independent or through vendors), who earn a tiny fraction of that.
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Took the words right out of my mouth. Apple has 30% of the phone market. They don't have a monopoly on anything.
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Apple has 30% of the world phone market, mostly because of extremely low-end devices (usually running older versions of Android) that are available cheaply in lower-income countries where Apple doesn't even try to compete.
Apple has 60% of active U.S. mobile devices, which is all that U.S. law really cares about.
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30% of the phone market, but that accounts for 70% of app revenue
It's not a market most app developers can afford to ignore.
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Apple meet Orange.
Why does the headline (Score:2)
feel like a nuclear weapon statistic?
3 billion active Android devices ... (Score:5, Funny)
... and 2.99 billion of them no longer get system updates
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Shots fired! Six year old phones are still getting updates. How many Android phones get updates at even three years?
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My Samsung phone is at least five years old and just got an update last night.
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Herpes (Score:1)
There are over 3 billion active herpes infections in the world. It must be good, right?
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Android reminds me of an active herpes infection.
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No, but the transmission process is so much fun infections will continue.
One of the earliest (Score:2)
I still have a Google Nexus One which I use every day.
so many little bugs (Score:2)
2.9 billion with old versions (Score:3)
Alas.
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My Nexus 6 is still going strong but hasn't seen an OS update since 7.1.1 dated 5 Oct 2017.
It just works, which is why I'm not getting a new phone. I'd be willing to pay Google for updates.
If I got a new phone I would probably get one where I could put LineageOS on it from the start since they seem to support hardware for a much longer period.
Crime against humanity (Score:2)
The thought of three billion people being constantly tracked and spied upon by a single corporation is depressing.