Major Ethereum Upgrade Set To Alter Supply, Fix Transaction Fees (reuters.com) 66
Ethereum, the second-largest blockchain network, is about to undergo a technical adjustment that will significantly alter the way transactions are processed, as well as reduce the supply of the ether token and sharply boost its price. The scheduled coding revamp will go live on Aug. 4. From a report: The upgrade known as Ethereum Improvement Proposal (EIP) 1559 is similar, analysts said, to a bitcoin "halving" event in which periodic adjustments reduced the supply of bitcoin. Each halving helped propel bitcoin's price to higher records. While bitcoin is the preferred store of value in the digital ecosystem, Ethereum has emerged as the leading financial infrastructure, settling over $12 billion of daily transactions, according to a Grayscale report released in February this year.
Andrew Keys, managing partner at DARMA Capital, said ether's current price has yet to factor in the looming software upgrade. He estimates that the expected software adjustment next week, coupled with another upgrade in the first quarter of 2022, should "easily quintuple the price of ether" by next year. On Thursday, ether was up 0.6% at $2,312. EIP-1559 is a software upgrade that fundamentally changes the way transactions are processed on Ethereum by providing clear pricing on transaction fees in ether paid to miners to validate transactions and "burning" a small amount of those tokens. The burned tokens will be permanently taken out of circulation. In token burning, miners would typically send the tokens to specialized addresses that have unobtainable private keys. Without access to a private key, no one can use the tokens, putting them outside the circulating supply. By reducing the number of tokens, the currencies that remain in circulation become rarer and more valuable.
Andrew Keys, managing partner at DARMA Capital, said ether's current price has yet to factor in the looming software upgrade. He estimates that the expected software adjustment next week, coupled with another upgrade in the first quarter of 2022, should "easily quintuple the price of ether" by next year. On Thursday, ether was up 0.6% at $2,312. EIP-1559 is a software upgrade that fundamentally changes the way transactions are processed on Ethereum by providing clear pricing on transaction fees in ether paid to miners to validate transactions and "burning" a small amount of those tokens. The burned tokens will be permanently taken out of circulation. In token burning, miners would typically send the tokens to specialized addresses that have unobtainable private keys. Without access to a private key, no one can use the tokens, putting them outside the circulating supply. By reducing the number of tokens, the currencies that remain in circulation become rarer and more valuable.
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Solidity:
"As a relatively young language, Solidity is advancing at a rapid speed. We aim for a regular (non-breaking) release every 2-3 weeks, with approximately two breaking releases per year. You can follow the implementation status of new features in the Solidity Github project. You can see the upcoming changes for the next breaking release by switching from the default branch (`develop`) to the `breaking branch`. You can actively shape Solidity by providing your input and participating in the language d
Artificial scarcity. (Score:2)
This is how you trigger getting regulated out of existence.
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The EIP 1559 paper, available on GitHub, introduces a new type of transaction that does a number of things. It makes some claims, but they are dubious. Most of the text covers the intent of the changes which does not align with the actual impact it will have.
tl;dr - adds a neat way to keep prices of using the Etherium network low but throws in an unrelated tax on the poor and actual users to benefit the rich early adopters who hoard their tokens.
Most of the changes are unrelated, but just bundled into
Incorrect. (Score:4, Insightful)
Ponzi scheme:
Ethereum is decentralised to the point of having nearly 5000 unique nodes, so, you know, stab a guess at who is behind this "ponzi" scheme.
Promises of high rates of return have never been made by the creators of Ethereum and the risk associated with cryptocurrency speculation is widely known and widely expressed.
At least do a little bit of research, before making such assumptions.
If you said cryptocurrencies are a wild west casino, that are easy to manipulate, with little to no real regulations - sure, I'd go along with that.
But it isn't as snappy as reaching for an ill-informed comparison, such as "ponzi scheme".
Cryptocurrencies are in their infancy and it is a dangerous market to meddle with, the entire house of cards could crash down.
There are thousands of bogus projects that are indeed somewhat like Ponzi schemes - no doubt there!
But you cannot dismiss the entirety of this phenomena as being a flash in the pan and a "get rich quick" scam - that would be silly.
There are some very interesting aspects within this market that are potentially highly disruptive, one of the key ones being, cutting out the middle men.
But, DYOR - it is a fascinating financial movement, absolutely full of scammers, but there is certainly more than a nugget of some grand ideas at play here.
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Thanks for that - interesting food for thought there, for sure!
I can't help but agree with every statement made, you have educated me with that link.
TIL.
I think GP's point was (Score:2)
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Etherium specifically is moving to proof-of-stake, a scheme in which existing holders have no ongoing risk but merely deposit coins to purchase no-risk perpetual gains at the expense of new investors. At that point it really is a Ponzi scheme.
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There are some very interesting aspects within this market that are potentially highly disruptive, one of the key ones being, cutting out the middle men.
How does it cut out the middleman if I have to pay a miner to record a transaction? If I pay someone cash some hand doesn't magically appear to take some of the cash as it changes owners (ignoring taxes in this scenario).
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^^^ This. With staking, the middleman are the whales/early adopters who can afford to lock up (stake) thousands of ethereum in proof of stake validators.
You can become a validator with as little as 16 ETH.
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Oh, so only $32000? Which you can afford to lose if your internet connection is interrupted for some reason? That's just pocket change, anyone can do it then.
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Being able to afford to lose $32k due to a connection problem without batting an eye, does really qualify you as a whale (imo).
Just being offline (for example your internet provider having a temporary outage) is enough to lose your stake. You would need quite a bit more than 16 ETH for that risk to be worth it.
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Being able to afford to lose $32k due to a connection problem without batting an eye, does really qualify you as a whale (imo).
Just being offline (for example your internet provider having a temporary outage) is enough to lose your stake. You would need quite a bit more than 16 ETH for that risk to be worth it.
Yes, having an internet outage where you are staked is a risk, but I think you are being hyperbolic. You don't lose it 'without batting an eye' (which implies a very short time). Based on my understanding, you could lose 50% of your stake if you are offline for 21 days.
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OK, in that case I guess it's not such a big deal. My bad.
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Well, cryptocurrencies as they're implemented today are nothing more than Ponzi schemes.
Nah, you just think you're informed because you've seen a few negative headlines fly by. You've been on this site long enough to know better.
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Why would I want that in a currency? Or even a stock?
First of all: there's nothing "artificial" about the scarcity - it is just the same for Bitcoin as with Fiat such as the US Dollar, There do not exist an infinite number of them, they have a regulated Finite supply. The only difference really with cryptos Is you are given a definitive, predictable policy on how many more can be printed and at what rate over the lifetime of the currency, Instead of allowing a single entity to decide to print as much
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There isn't a finite supply of US Dollars in the same way that there is of Bitcoin. The U.S. Federal Reserve can print as much money as it likes, and banks create money too. In contrast ~83% of all Bitcoins there will ever be already exist. It's true that printing too much money could devalue the currency or cause undesirable levels of inflation - people argue all the time how much it _should_ print - but the fact remains that it can print any number.
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There isn't a finite supply of US Dollars in the same way that there is of Bitcoin. ...
Incorrect, they really are both finite in the same way - Actually, there are not "different ways" of being Finite.. Something is either Finite or Not. Bitcoin is Finite in the same way as with traditional currencies - Precious metals such as Gold and Silver which contain a value that derive from Scarcity... the Natural state required for any resource to have value, and cannot be so easily stolen by governments by
Market manipulation? (Score:1)
undergo a technical adjustment that will significantly alter the way transactions are processed, as well as reduce the supply of the ether token and sharply boost its price
So, it's basically market manipulation (same as with Bitcoin).
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No, it's a Non Sequitur. It's nothing more than some Xyz company deciding to stop printing infinite shares of their stock - it prevents the value from going to $0 purely by dilution of existing shareholder's percentage of the equity. The market determines the overall price of each currency, and there is no guarantee about How and If Ether's price will be affected by the move.
If Ethereum turns out to be worth anything and gets used, then cutting the printing of more will make it more useful for transact
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Hoax (Score:1)
When you look here [coinmarketcap.com] you'll see a progress bar next to Bitcoin which shows how many BTC have been created and it's finite. There's no such progress bar next to Ether because its owners can make as many Ether for themselves as they like!!
It's one big rip-off and anyone stupid to fall for it is gonna get burned. Like third-degree burned.
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"When you look here..."
Nearly 6000 different crytocurrencies !
decentralized (Score:5, Insightful)
Call it decentralized but manipulate it just like a central bank?
Re:decentralized (Score:4, Interesting)
Good point.
The move from POW to POS could be the undoing of Ethereum - miners that have been manipulating the serious issues ETH has with scalability, absolutely creaming it on 'GAS' fees, are certainly not looking forward to the London hard fork.
Fact is, ETH is broken - ridiculously high transaction fees and ridiculous slow transactions.
The London fork is part of an attempt to 'fix' this issue, as ETH moves toward POS.
I wouldn't say it is being 'manipulated', rather, it is trying to solve a problem of its own making and popularity - complete lack of scalability.
There are a good few far better options that do what ETH have attempted far better, infinitely better in fact, but they don't have a ridiculously large market cap.
"Too big to fail" - where have we heard that before? ...
Oh yeah, the 2007/2008 financial crash
Re:decentralized (Score:4, Insightful)
... and the absolute irony of what ETH is supposed to represent and what it really is right now, never ceases to amaze me.
The idea of decentralised currency with no transaction fees, of financial services with no middle men.
It's off to a great start ( /s ) -
* onramp with FIAT at an exchange = FEES.
* Use that FIAT to buy ETH = FEES.
* Send that ETH to another wallet = FEES.
* The other wallet sends that ETH to an exchange = FEES.
* Offramp that ETH to FIAT = FEES.
Joe: "Hey, John, I'm going to send you $200 via this awesome cryptocurrency thing! So, it'll take me about 25 minutes and cost $10 - have you got everything setup your end? No? Ok, you need to have a wallet - here's a link with a 50 step process. You also need to get an account on an exchange - here's a link with a 10 step process, it could take a few days for your KYC to pass though - no, John, not that kind of KYC... but then you are good to go!"
Joe: "Hey John, did you get that $200 I sent?"
John: "Er, yeah, but I only ended up with $180 and it took 5 days!"
JUST LIKE BITCOIN!!!! (Score:1)
Joe: "Hey John, did you get that $200 I sent?"
John: "Er, yeah, but I only ended up with $180 and it took 5 days!"
HOLY SHIT - YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED BITCOIN!!!
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And the fiat to ETH will eventually handled at the merchant imo. The price will stabilize (eventually, much higher) and the merchant can offer your change in cash or crypto. Or, you could get it from the customer service station at the grocery store (the same place they sell
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It costs money to handle money. Even with blockchain based system, someone has to pay for the machines that add blocks to the blockchain (usually called "miners"). That means every transaction you do has fees because that money needs to go to the people who keep the network running and maintenance of the blockchain.
Everything has a cost associated with it. Some companies choose to eat the fees because they
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> There are a good few far better options that do what ETH have attempted far better, infinitely better in fact, but they don't have a ridiculously large market cap.
Any examples?
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Well, there's this crypto call PYRITE that has a supply about the same size as all of the grains of sand on Earth, that is currently trading at $0.00000001.
I have my eye on that sucker, it's going to revolutionise DeFi with a smart contract that runs all the other smart contracts.
The good thing is, one of the key developers on the project is super smart and has their own github account with lots of projects on it.
They used to work on the FLSGLD crypto project.
I reckon it'll hit $40,000 this Christmas, with
Gamers Paying Price for Your Mining (Score:2)
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"Halving event" analogous to stock split? (Score:2)
Is a "halving" event" similar to a stock split, which, in theory, has no effect on the value of the assets owned?