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Google Bans Location Data Firm Funded by Former Saudi Intelligence Head (vice.com) 17

Google has banned SafeGraph, a location data firm whose investors include a former head of Saudi intelligence, Motherboard reported Tuesday. From a report: The ban means that any apps working with SafeGraph had to remove the offending location gathering code from their apps. SafeGraph markets its data to government entities and a wide range of industries, but it also sells the data on the open market to essentially anyone. The news signals Google's continued crackdown on location data firms who sometimes, in violation of Google's policies, pay app developers to include their data harvesting code and then sell the collected data to companies or government agencies. "They are willing to sell extremely fine-grained data and anyone with a credit card can start buying it," Zach Edwards, a researcher who has closely followed the supply chain of various sources of data, told Motherboard in an email last year, when both he and Motherboard were separately investigating SafeGraph.

SafeGraph collected at least some of its location data by having app developers embed the company's code, or software development kit (SDK), into their own apps. Those apps would then track the physical location of their users, which SafeGraph would repackage and then sell to other parties. Google confirmed to Motherboard it told app developers in early June they had seven days to remove SafeGraph's SDK from their apps. If they didn't do this, Google told Motherboard the apps may face enforcement. This can mean removal from the Play Store itself. Beyond its own data, SafeGraph also offers customers the chance to buy related data sets from other providers to enrich the location information, such as the names of property owners in the U.S.

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Google Bans Location Data Firm Funded by Former Saudi Intelligence Head

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  • Every time I look at Slashdot, there's a new article about something being banned by somebody. Why not just keep a page with a running list of what's been banned and by whom? It'd make it easier to keep up.

    • At some point it is easier to just list the acceptable and ignore everything else.

      NOTE: I do not necessarily want this nor have I implied it is a good idea. See your party's leaders for what is or isn't acceptable.

  • It is ours. We are going to make ads with it.
  • Beyond its own data, SafeGraph also offers customers the chance to buy related data sets from other providers to enrich the location information, such as the names of property owners in the U.S.

    Whew, just under the wire.

  • This is essentially Google saying, "We can grab and sell all the data. You can not."

    Regardless of who it is that's trawling data and selling it, it's just massively funny to me for them to "crack down" on data miners of any kind when that's seemingly their primary function.

    • by Somervillain ( 4719341 ) on Thursday August 12, 2021 @12:18PM (#61684531)

      This is essentially Google saying, "We can grab and sell all the data. You can not."

      Regardless of who it is that's trawling data and selling it, it's just massively funny to me for them to "crack down" on data miners of any kind when that's seemingly their primary function.

      The difference is they will sell to your divorce attorney, your stalker, your boss, or whomever. Google collects my data for their algorithm. You can't read it. You can't tell I am typing this from home. My boss, parents, wife, coworkers can't buy it. Take the Grindr priest example that recently happened. This company will sell the detailed data on the open market.

      I have no problem with Google collecting my data to sell me ads. I have a HUGE problem if it leaks. I have an even bigger problem if someone is selling spy services based on the data.

      Let me start by saying, I am a boring person. I only fuck my wife, I do nothing illegal or even really very interesting. I don't even lie to my employer. However, it doesn't take much imagination to see how this will be abused.

      1. How about a service that tracks employees entering rivals' offices? Something that will let your boss know you've gone on an interview.
      2. How about an app that correlates your location to your sick days? Oh, you called in sick but went on a road trip? I hope your boss likes you
      3. How about an app that maps out which hotels and houses you visit most often for your wife to see?
      4. How about an app that just lets some stalker track you, or your daughter, or your wife.
      5. How about an app that disproves any excuse you tell to friends?..."oh, I can't go to your improv set Saturday, I have to visit my family" or "sorry, I can't hang out tonight, I have to work"...and they see you actually hung out with a different friend or never visited your family.
      6. How about an app that provides detailed location data to law enforcement? Yes, they can get a court order for it today, but they need reasonable suspicion. Now they can figure out everyone who was within a mile of the crime scene and bring them in for questioning.
      7. How about an app that provides location info for assassination targets...not a huge issue in the US, but yeah, I think a lot of journalists and Putin critics would be VERY nervous (or critics of any authoritarian leader).

      Whenever we have this debate on slashdot, someone invariably says...well if you don't want to get caught, don't do anything wrong.

      I will add this. I don't do anything interesting the app will find. I'm not looking for a new job. I don't have a mistress. I don't do anything illegal. However, this is an unregulated app from shady people.

      1. What if they screw up the data? OK, I was at home working, but it says I at some woman's house for 2h. My wife is with me and knows my lack of charm, dad-bod, and dad-of-small-children persona is enough to ensure no one else wants to suck my dick. However, what if that other woman's husband was out of town and now he's tracking me down asking me questions?
      2. What if another error makes me the suspect of a crime and the police come into my office to ask questions? OK, they find I'm innocent, but that damage to your reputation is real. Half of my floor knows me and would laugh at the thought of me being a criminal, but the other people who just see me in the hall? Accusations can damage lives...they don't even have to be remotely true.
      3. Would you want to know of everyone's private life? OK, so I am not impacted and the data is correct. I don't want to know my cousin is having an affair. I don't want my "confirmed bachelor" coworker to be outed to his family as gay.
      4. I don't want to see coworkers retaliated against because they went on interviews....suddenly I have to take on extra work because they think my teammate may leave the company, so they start the knowledge transfer early and ensure he has less and less tasks each
  • But it's OK, because they're our spooks, the good spooks.

"And remember: Evil will always prevail, because Good is dumb." -- Spaceballs

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