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Microsoft Releases Windows 11 a Day Early (theverge.com) 67

Posted by msmash from the how-about-that dept.
Windows 11 is now officially available to download. While Microsoft is launching Windows 11-powered hardware worldwide on October 5th, the company has made the OS update available early for eligible devices in New Zealand and beyond. From a report: If you've purchased a Windows 10 machine recently, that means you should be able to upgrade to Windows 11 right now. For everyone else, the rollout of Windows 11 will be gradual. Microsoft says existing Windows 10 devices that are eligible for the Windows 11 upgrade will start to be able to upgrade today, but it will be mostly new hardware that will receive the upgrade immediately. Microsoft says, "We expect all eligible Windows 10 devices to be offered the upgrade to Windows 11 by mid-2022."
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  • So that's why Facebook crashed today.... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Indy1 ( 99447 ) on Monday October 04, 2021 @03:41PM (#61860981)

    :)

  • Cue all the comments about how people are never going to upgrade and will stay on Windows 10.

    And half of those will be from people who swore they would never upgrade from Windows 7.

    • Re:Here we go (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Ostracus ( 1354233 ) on Monday October 04, 2021 @03:58PM (#61861083) Journal

      I'm still on seven and will continue till the heat death of the universe.

      • I'm still on seven and will continue till the heat death of the universe.

        ...or at least the heat death of your hardware.

        I remember when I lost my virtual copy of Windows XP with all appropriate updates installed for VirtualBox. I lost one piece of software which wouldn't work under Wine or have a native Linux version. It sucked for a couple months and then I got over it.

        Now it's essentially a Microsoft-free household. Probably. I may have a Microsoft mouse somewhere that I've misplaced.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Or until your hardware dies or needs upgrading and you can't find anything with Windows 7 drivers.

        Well, there's always eBay...

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by IWantMoreSpamPlease ( 571972 )

        Might I suggest Windows 9?
        https://www.eastcoast.hosting/... [www.eastcoast.hosting]

        It's all the positive of windows 7 and 10 (usb 3.0 native support, nvme native boot support, updates that are security only), with none of the negatives.
        I use it for my main system, and it's fantastic. When it goes out of support in 2024, I will consider the move to *nix.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by Reziac ( 43301 ) *

          I have 8.1 Enterprise on a laptop, and I can't really explain why but it's sure been better to use than any others of the 8-through-10 family. Somehow just lacks much of the annoyance.

    • Well, sort of.

      I ran Win7 until the updates started crippling my PC, and then I said *fuck this* and switched to Linux.

      That was almost 3 years ago, so Win 11 has no allure for me, none, zero, zip, nada.

    • Using Linux exclusively since 2010. Started using it in 2004.
      You were saying...?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by mysidia ( 191772 )

      And half of those will be from people who swore they would never upgrade from Windows 7.

      Note that most of those people probably upgraded directly from Windows 7 to Windows 10 Not from Windows 7 to Windows 8 (If they upgraded)

      Past performance is no indication that they'll opt to go from Windows 10 to Windows 11. It might be years away (when Windows 10 is going EOL), before people willingly upgrade

    • The difference is that Windows 10 is a huge step down from Windows 7, so people were reluctant to downgrade. Windows 10 == Windows 11 so it won't make any difference if you sidegrade or not. The only reason to not do so for at least a year is Microsoft's track record of never being able to get a new release right, so wait as long as possible to avoid being the canary in the coalmine. Or just stay on 10, which is the same thing anyway.
    • I mostly use Linux Mint, and some Windows 10 because stupid clients pay me handsomely to develop software for it.

      Windows 10 (and 8 before it) is awful with its schizophrenic interface (it can't decide on being a touch or mouse centric).

  • It's not a day early (Score:5, Informative)

    by Lanthanide ( 4982283 ) on Monday October 04, 2021 @03:49PM (#61861041)

    The release date is October 5. Today is October 5th in New Zealand. It's exactly on time.

  • Excellent (Score:3)

    by zenlessyank ( 748553 ) on Monday October 04, 2021 @03:53PM (#61861053)

    Let the good billable time begin!!

  • No Meaningful Reason to Upgrade to W11 (Score:5, Insightful)

    by BrendaEM ( 871664 ) on Monday October 04, 2021 @03:58PM (#61861087) Homepage
    This was the wrong time for Microsoft to put yet another wrapper on Windows 7. They were overconfident because of the Covid home-computer boon. The privacy is still betting worse, with a webcam required for the honor of installing a operating system : P . So many people don't have TPM, or TPM enough that MS will drive people into Linux's arms. With a 25% percent gaming performance loss on preinstalled system, why install it? Why?

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by imidan ( 559239 )

      I hadn't heard about the webcam requirement, but it also sounds like for now it's just a recommendation, and desktops are exempt. I'm guessing they're going for some kind of face-recognition login. I've seen it on MS Surface portables.

      But, looking at the list of features new to Windows 11, I don't see anything that interests me. They're doing a lot to try to tie the OS in more with cloud services like Azure, OneDrive, and Office 365, which I don't need or want. They have a new terminal app that looks kinda

      • I like the new terminal, but it's also available on Windows 10 from the Microsoft store. It's also GPU accelerated, so it tends to be snappy. Hooray for tabs.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by PCM2 ( 4486 )

        I hadn't heard about the webcam requirement, but it also sounds like for now it's just a recommendation, and desktops are exempt. I'm guessing they're going for some kind of face-recognition login. I've seen it on MS Surface portables.

        As I understand it, a standard webcam is not sufficient to do Windows Login. The one on my Surface has an additional (infrared?) light to do the face recognition.

        Ironically, at this time, something like half or more of all Surface tablets are incompatible with Windows 11. Mine meets most of the requirements, but the processor is not supported.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        The reason to upgrade will be that they stop updating Windows 10. If you want new features you will need 11, and they will make things like new versions of Direct X exclusive to it.

        On the other hand, that means 10 is now stable, the UI won't change, it will carry on working like it does now until end of life. If you like that it might be a reason not to upgrade.

        By the way, the new terminal is available for 10 and you can run WSL sessions in it, i.e. a Linux terminal.

      • So what's the big motivation to upgrade?

        The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and... It's one bigger, isn't it? It's not ten. This one goes to eleven.

    • Re:No Meaningful Reason to Upgrade to W11 (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Camel Pilot ( 78781 ) on Monday October 04, 2021 @04:52PM (#61861275) Homepage Journal

      What you aren't excited about having all the settings functionality rearranged and distributed differently for no particular reason? i don't know why GUI designers have to move things around and change presentation without some clear improvement or intuitive layout.

    • You don't require a webcam at all, where the fuck did you get that from?

    • So many people don't have TPM, or TPM enough that MS will drive people into Linux's arms.

      No they won't. They'll just sit and use their Windows 10 until their computers give up sometime in the next 5 years and buy the next one with Windows 11 installed.

      This obsession with the idea that people jump at the thought of updating an OS is quite strange. You have a UI low enough to remember a time where you only ever got a new windows with a new computer. When did the older techies suddenly become entitled millennials who need to have everything?

      with a webcam required for the honor of installing a operating system

      There is no requirement for a webcam to install or use Wi

  • The Real Question (Score:5, Insightful)

    by organgtool ( 966989 ) on Monday October 04, 2021 @04:00PM (#61861097)
    The real question is when will Microsoft start attempting to shove it down everyone's throats?
    • Perhaps they will do it politely:

      Reintroducing Clippy ... "I see you're trying to use an old operating system. Would you like some help with that?"
  • Maybe Tom Warren doesn't know how time zones work. It looks like he is in the UK which is currently 13 hours behind New Zealand, which is the first major population center by time zones.
  • https://www.microsoft.com/en-u... [microsoft.com]

    Windows 11 Installation Assistant
    Create Windows 11 Installation Media
    Download Windows 11 Disk Image (ISO)

  • Hopefully less buggy than the preview build (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Camel Pilot ( 78781 ) on Monday October 04, 2021 @04:48PM (#61861261) Homepage Journal

    I have been running Windows 11 Insider Preview Build on my X1 laptop and have had to do hard boots every few days. Chrome locks up all the time and had to kill and restart it. I hope the official release is better.

  • Interesting? I only knew zero-days!

  • https://www.theverge.com/2021/... [theverge.com]

    No way that I will EVER use an OS that requires a cloud account/login in order to function. To top it off, there are no compelling reasons to switch to Windows 11 from Windows 10.

  • All the (many different) versions of Windows 11 just got uploaded to Microsoft's Visual Studio Subscriptions site (was MSDN) if you have a login there. Downloading the ISO now...

    Here is the full list of ISOs uploaded:
    Windows 11 IoT Enterprise
    Windows 11 Hardware Lab Kit
    Windows 11 Windows Driver Kit
    Windows 11 (business editions)
    Windows 11 (consumer editions)
    Windows 11 Software Development Kit
    Windows 11 Enterprise Windows Driver Kit
    Windows 11 Assessment and Deployment Kit
    Windows 11 Hardware Lab Kit

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