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Ask Slashdot: What Do You Remember About Windows ME? (computerworld.com) 269

"Windows Me was unstable, unloved and unusable," remembered Computerworld last year, on the 20th anniversary of its release, calling it "a stink bomb of an operating system." Windows Me was a ghastly, slapdash piece of work, incompatible with lots of hardware and software. It frequently failed during the installation process — which should have been the first sign for people that this was an operating system they shouldn't try.Often, when you tried to shut it down, it declined to do so, like a two-year-old throwing a temper tantrum over being forced to go to sleep. It was slow and insecure. Its web browser, Internet Explorer, frequently refused to load web pages.
But they ultimately argue that it wasn't as bad as Windows Vista, which "simply refused to run, or ran so badly it was useless on countless PCs. Not just old PCs, but even newly bought PCs, right out of the box, with Vista installed." And they conclude that the worst Microsoft OS of all is still Windows 8. ("You want bad? You want stupid? You want an operating system that not only was roundly reviled by consumers and businesses alike, but also set Microsoft's business plans back years?")

Slashdot reader alaskana98 even remembers Windows ME semi-fondly as "the last Microsoft OS to use the Windows 95 codebase." While rightly being panned as a buggy and crash-prone OS — indeed it was labelled as the worst version of Windows ever released by Computer World — it did introduce a number of features that continue on to this very day. Those features include:

-A personalized start menu that would show your most recently accessed programs, today a common feature in the Windows landscape.
-Software support for DVD playback. Previously one needed a dedicated card to playback DVDs.
-Windows Movie Maker and Windows Media Player 7, allowing home users to create, edit and burn their own digital home movies. While seemingly pedestrian in today's times, these were groundbreaking features for home users in the year 2000.
-The first iteration of System Restore — imagine a modern version of Windows not having the ability to conveniently restore to a working configuration — before Windows ME, this was simply not a possibility for the average home user unless you had a rigorous backup routine.
-The removal of real-mode DOS. While very controversial at the time, this change arguably improved the speed and reliability of the boot process.

Love it or hate it (well, lets face it, if you were a computer user at that point you probably hated it) — Windows ME did make several important contributions to the modern OS landscape that are often overlooked to this day. Do you have any stories from the heady days of late 2000 when Windows ME was first released?

Slashdot reader Z00L00K remembers in a comment that "The removal of real-mode DOS is what REALLY made ME impossible to use for most of us at the time. It broke backwards compatibility so hard that the only way out was to use any of the earlier versions of Windows instead!"

Is this re-awakening images of the year 2000 for anyone? Share your own memories and thoughts in the comments.

What do you remember about Windows ME?
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  • by Entropius ( 188861 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @02:48PM (#62072789)

    "The first iteration of System Restore — imagine a modern version of Windows not having the ability to conveniently restore to a working configuration" ... System Restore has never restored to a working configuration. No matter what you do with System Restore, you're left with a Windows system afterwards.

    • by xlsior ( 524145 )
      Having worked for an internet provider during the Windows ME years: System Restore was a good idea in theory, but horribly implemented in the initial windows ME release. It wasn't just a matter of whether or not it could reliably roll back your configuration, but it was literally a 50-50 crapshoot whether you would end up with an unbootable system after initiating a rollback. I've talked to countless customers who got burned by it.

      Worst feature ever, since it gave people a false sense of security. "Nah, I
  • It (Score:3, Insightful)

    by oldgraybeard ( 2939809 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @02:49PM (#62072795)
    Sucked!
    • Re:It (Score:5, Funny)

      by shanen ( 462549 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @02:52PM (#62072811) Homepage Journal

      Yeah, but what I remember is that I want to forget it.

      • That's you. I, on the other hand, celebrate it. Why, you ask? Well, when it comes to IT, sometimes you need a little help backing up your threats. To this end, MS has delivered. No one, and I repeat, no one has, to date, taken me up on my promise to upgrade their machine to Windows Me if they found their current situation unsatisfactory. It has cut down, dramatically, on the complaining, and the fighting.

        And so, the Windows Me install media, complete with Certificate of Authority, collects dust in my desk d

    • Re:It (Score:5, Interesting)

      by cyberpunkrocker ( 1649121 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @03:06PM (#62072861)

      Actually, I really have to be thankful for Windows ME. It is the sole reason I've been using Linux as the main, and most of the time, only OS for the last 20+ years. If Microsoft had released XP instead of ME at that time, it is (just barely) within possibility that I would be mostly-Microsoft guy today.

      • by Muros ( 1167213 )
        Would be right there with you, if Windows support wasn't a large part of what I have to do every day. Whatever cunt in TFA argued Vista was worse is a lying sack of shit. ME was fucking horrible, Vista less so, and Win8 less so again. MS may be slow, but they do learn.
      • When you have anesthetic during surgery, I expect you're asking for sulfuric ether. After all, that was way better than the standing alternative in 1846.

    • I wasted countless days reinstalling WinME and WinXP. Eventually, I just gave up and when asked, just said sorry, I don't do Windows.
  • by Z00L00K ( 682162 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @02:50PM (#62072797) Homepage Journal

    The inability to run real mode DOS really caused trouble for me so I backed to 98.

    • Not an actual inability, mind you; it could be fixed with some transplanted files. They just removed all the methods to access it that they could.
  • I remember (Score:5, Funny)

    by pele ( 151312 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @02:50PM (#62072801) Homepage

    Having to reinstall it 3 times over the weekend instead of getting laid. It was her new laptop...

  • by Dirk Becher ( 1061828 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @02:51PM (#62072803)

    I ignored in favor of 2000.

    • I ignored in favor of 2000.

      Yes. The number one thing that made Windows ME irrelevant was Windows 2000, which was much better.

    • by leonbev ( 111395 )

      Yeah, I think that the reason that Windows ME gets bashed so hard is because they released Windows 2000 just a few months earlier. Windows 2000 was sooo much better! It had a stable Windows NT core, and Plug and Play hardware detection actually worked reliably for the first time. Windows ME just felt like warmed over/reskinned Windows 98 SE in comparison.

    • I had Windows Me for a while, then decided after a while that it was just too unstable to use. I switched to 2000 soon after, even though it wasn't designated as a consumer OS. What a difference in stability there was, even with an occasional bluescreen due to buggy network drivers.

      Other than that, I remember it as the only version of Windows I had contributed some code to. I did some contract work at Microsoft on one of the apps that shipped with Me. I... um.... left that off my resume, as you can prob

    • Same here. I went from Win98 to 2000 to XP to Linux. Bypassing the shittier editions of Windows.
    • Ditto. There was a perfectly cracked version of Windows 2000 easily available. The best OS Microsoft ever released.

  • I ran Windows ME since it was in beta and never had any issues. It was basically Windows 98se with some minor changes. I don't think it was really any worse than Windows 98se. During this era I dual-booted with Windows 2000 as there were still apps and games that ran better on 9x. Was ME really "bad" compared to 98, or was it just that the NT-based operating systems that came afterward (XP, etc) were so much better?
    • by burni2 ( 1643061 )

      Same memories here:
      1.) used it since beta
      2.) WinMe behaved basically like Win98se
      3.) dual-boot w. win2k to play certain games - yes

      Basically Win2000 was the real game changer from the initial release (and even beta3 and some RCs) and Win2k continued to be the stable working horse for a long time on as it walked side-by-side with WinXP, because the WinXP initial release was really a piece of garbage - which really changed over time (SP2+).

    • I ran Windows ME since it was in beta and never had any issues. It was basically Windows 98se with some minor changes. I don't think it was really any worse than Windows 98se. During this era I dual-booted with Windows 2000 as there were still apps and games that ran better on 9x. Was ME really "bad" compared to 98, or was it just that the NT-based operating systems that came afterward (XP, etc) were so much better?

      Yeah, Windows ME was basically Windows 98 TE (third edition), or Windows 95 fourth edition. It is a good point that people look back on Windows ME with so much disgust because of the NT codebase variants that came out later (granted Windows 2000 did come out many months before ME).

      But if memory serves, people really did think ME was a steaming pile of dog doo at the time, just comparing it to (most likely) Windows 98 SE. I think part of the problem is Microsoft actually charged people money for it. It

    • I came across a Laptop with ME installed and hated it there and then, and this was after I had used Win98 for a couple of years. All I remember 18-19 years later is that it was amazingly unstable, but that I could not "downgrade" it for Win98 because the laptop needed some special drivers. My guess at the time was that everyone knew the Win95 - 98 - ME line was going to stop there and they were worried about being let go once ME was released, so the good programmers all themselves reallocated to the Win20

  • 1) I never installed it because heard it was full of cruft while doing little to fix 98's problems.
    2) I marveled a little at how few people actually used it.

    I don't think I ever came across a computer with it installed.

    IIRC, If ME had improved upon 98 with better memory management, it would've been the go-to OS. Instead, we all eventually switched to the much more stable NT5.0 (Win XP).

  • I can't even remember to ever have used Windows ME. Windows 95 yes (albeit not on my on devices), Windows 98 (actually only Windows 98 SE), Windows 2000 and then Windows XP. But I never even witnessed Windows ME on a device that was in my vicinity.
  • by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @02:57PM (#62072831)
    because everyone even MS abandoned it. Seriously every time I came across it when helping a friend with their computer, I recommended they replace it with 98SE or even 2000. Back then it was easier to get a working, pirated version of Windows. And they were so much happier when they replaced ME. It was clearly a rushed in-between product for MS.
    • by bloodhawk ( 813939 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @05:35PM (#62073309)
      The funny thing is Vista wasn't actually bad, Windows 7 IS just vista with a mild facelift (most some of the prompts removed) and it was loved. What made Vista look bad was hardware manufacturers were too slow in getting stable drivers out for the new architecture, especially the GPU makers.
      • After many, many updates, Vista was not that bad as long you were not one of those people that got a "Vista Capable" PC. Like many Windows versions, it takes a while before all the beta testing is done on consumers. UAC was toned down; drivers were ready, etc. "Vista Capable" was solvable if the consumer could add an external video card; laptops and some desktops could not.
      • by Voyager529 ( 1363959 ) <voyager529@ya[ ].com ['hoo' in gap]> on Sunday December 12, 2021 @07:23PM (#62073597)

        What made Vista look bad was hardware manufacturers were too slow in getting stable drivers out for the new architecture, especially the GPU makers.

        This is oversimplification...

        On the consumer front, GPU drivers weren't as much of an issue as the press says it was. Yeah, it didn't do the Aero effects, but Aero only lasted for Vista and 7; it was a lot of sizzle that made for lovely screenshots but wasn't a massive selling point.

        No, the issues with Vista had to do with far greater amounts of growing pains.

        The amount of disk I/O that Vista needed over XP was quite measurable. With 5400RPM drives still super common in consumer desktops at the time...and they were still being sold with 1GB of RAM or even 512MB to boot. OEMs were

        Vista also forced everyone to fix the fact that everything ran as admin by default. This made a de facto requirement for software to run in a user context, but anyone installing their vintage-2005 software on Vista got UAC prompts for everything...meaning that UAC was its own worst enemy for years and commonly got disabled. Speaking of things that got disabled, driver signing started to become more commonplace after Vista, but in the XP era, companies as large as Creative Labs couldn't be bothered.

        Vista was the 'sacrificial lamb'; Windows 7 was liked as much for its optimizations as for the changes that were made because of it. 2GB and 4GB of RAM became normalized, applications were not only revised to run in user mode, but began to get improvements for running multithreaded. Chrome and Firefox were drop-in replacements for IE9. DDR3 RAM, quad-core processors hitting the mainstream, and faster bus speeds complimented SSDs becoming affordable. More hardware started to become class compliant, and yes, Intel finally figured out how to make Aero compliant integrated graphics chipsets in their budget CPUs.

        Vista was a line in the sand, and it was unliked because of it. Put Vista on a 1st-gen i5 with 4GB of RAM and a 128GB SSD and it was solid. Run it on a Celeron with 512MB of RAM and a 5400RPM hard drive half-filled with Sony shovelware and there's nothing likeable about that experience.

  • After years of cobbling together white boxes with their attendant compatibility issues (but they were cheap!) I went out and bought my wife a Compaq Deskpro with Windows ME. I figured that a professionally-built system *had* to be better, right? After all, Top Men were entrusted with the integration testing and everything...

    Then the WinME bugs started to show. After about a year of fussing around with it and trying to work around the bugs I figured "There's so many bugs there must be a service pack, righ

  • Do you ever get the impression that Microsoft doesn't really plan ahead for their operating systems, but just sort of slaps together something whenever they feel like they need a new one?

    I mean, Windows 10 came out 6 years ago, but when they released Windows 11, it really wasn't that different and a large portion of the features they touted hadn't even been finished yet.

    • Do you ever get the impression that Microsoft doesn't really plan ahead for their operating systems, but just sort of slaps together something whenever they feel like they need a new one?

      I mean, Windows 10 came out 6 years ago, but when they released Windows 11, it really wasn't that different and a large portion of the features they touted hadn't even been finished yet.

      That is the real mystery. Microsoft has lots of people and lots of money. This is not some tiny start-up working out of someone's garage. That is a company worth almost a Trillion Dollars, and yet they continue to turn out useless crap, with each new version of Windows being worse than the previous one.

  • MS CEMENT (Score:4, Informative)

    by daniel23 ( 605413 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @03:05PM (#62072855)

    Those days MS tried to solidify their market dominance, like: set it in stone. There was Windows CE, Windows ME and Windows NT. I actually bought a llicense for ME but never installed it, I was on the NT line since NT 3.51 and NT 4.0 was rock solid. There were no crashes, the ui was acceptable.
    Those who changed from 95 to ME and on to w98 complained and complained but my boxen did fine.

  • ME was a terrible experience for IT staff in SMBs who had yet to migrate away from Windows 9x to NT based systems. In fact ME led to us providing a lot of free support to clients to migrate them away from ME to XP as soon as we could. We handled upgrades for any client who purchased ME or a ME based system from us at no cost as long as they purchased the license. We didn’t do the same for those who wanted to go back to 98 or 95 as we were trying to get rid of those at the time.

  • Windows ME was so bad I gave up on Windows completely. Switched to Linux and MacOS... even ChromeOS. Never even considered going back.
    I don't think Windows has gotten any better (just different problems... whack a mole) over the years.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by ufgrat ( 6245202 )

      I don't think Windows has gotten any better (just different problems... whack a mole) over the years.

      You could not possibly be more wrong. ME was simply the worst OS ever released by Microsoft, include Xenix.

      Nearly all the complaints about Windows from the 95 era were totally gone by the time XP SP 2 came out, and Windows 7 was a superb OS.

    • I don't think Windows has gotten any better

      You can't say that with a straight face. Seriously Windows ME is the only OS ever released which got worse when you rebooted.

  • Since WinME basically felt like "Win98 /w extra bugs", and this was around the time that Win2k was coming out, I mostly managed to skip it. I basically went straight to Win2k, and never looked back. Of course I was also fortunate enough to be one of those people who actually chose what his computer ran, rather than being stuck with whatever some big box vendor chose to pre-install for me.

  • I remember a copy sitting on a shelf in the office.

    It remained unopened for a few years until it was eventually thrown out.
  • When I started my job, I had the choice of which Windows I wanted to run. ME was the only version of Windows I hadn't tried yet, so I chose it. Frankly, I never had any more problems with it than I had with 3.1, 95, or 98. Not exactly high praise, since they all sucked pretty bad.

    By far, though, the best part of ME was the pinball game that came with it.

  • I remember the W2K startup splash screen clearly said "Windows 2000 Professional - Built on NT Technology", the implication was that there was a Windows 2000 Home Edition.

    That was until Microsoft and the PC industry decided that W2K was too beefy to run on most of the dreadful home PCs of the time. So the lighter Windows 98SE was slapped with a new coat of paint and the fancy features like System Restore were jammed onto it. What a mess it was. Blue screens after installation. Awful multitasking compared

  • by OldUserBackAgain ( 6505346 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @03:33PM (#62072935)

    Microsoft seems to have had their version of Intels tick tock model [wikipedia.org] for the consumer line of Windows OS:es. Memory tends to remember in weird ways but this is my recollection:

    Windows 1 - ok, new for PC and an improvement to DOS only
    Windows 2 - well, ok but meh
    Windows 3 - less meh
    Windows 3.11 - usable
    Windows 95 - unstable until service pack 2 which more or less became '98
    Windows 98 - usable
    Windows ME - garbage
    Winows XP - usable
    Windows Vista - garbage
    Windows 7- usable
    Windows 8 - garbage UI
    Windows 10 - pretty ok
    Windows 11 - time will tell...

    Luckily I spent many years working on Unix, Linux and Os X so I didn't suffer much by skipping every second version of Windows on my gaming computer.

    • With every second version of Windows being garbage, my first thought when they went from Windows 8 to Windows 10 was that they were skipping the "good version" and going straight to the next "garbage".
      It took a couple of months before I realised why they had skipped Windows 9: Microsoft had an "approved way" programmers could check which version of Windows their program was running under, but that "approved way" changed several times over the years. A fair number of programmers simply ignored them and chec

    • I found Windows NT quite solid for its time. If I remember right, it was impossible to run DOS programs on it but at least what was supposed to work on it, actually did.

  • Vista was fine (Score:4, Informative)

    by ufgrat ( 6245202 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @03:34PM (#62072943)

    The problem is, Vista actually enforced the Win32 spec that all the vendors, driver authors, and software authors had been completely ignoring for years.

    Then you had AV products that randomly broke device driver installs.

    I ran Vista just fine for several years on a new, but not extreme, spec PC that was about 6 months old when Vista was released.

    Not the snappiest OS ever, but once I figured out my AV software was blocking two .dll's for my NVidia driver, I had no issues with the OS.

  • by spaceyhackerlady ( 462530 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @03:36PM (#62072953)

    I never used Windows ME, never even saw it. I used Windows 98 at the time when I wasn't using Linux and recommended it to non-technical users. Among other things, it had USB that worked. Some people claimed there was an implementation of USB on Windows 95 but after careful study I came to the conclusion that they were mistaken.

    At work it was mainly Windows 2000. Then XP, Windows 7, now Windows 10 with Windows 11 breathing down our necks. In the meantime our server development has evolved from Solaris to Linux.

    ...laura

  • I ran Win 2000 at this time, followed by XP. I kept XP until 7, and then ran 10. These were all dual boot with some version of Linux as the primary OS. I still have some needed programs that only run windows. I have no plans to use 11.

    • I had Win95 and Win98 at home - before moving to XP and following your progression.
      At work it was Windows for Workgroups 3.11, Win98 (I think we skipped 95), NT4.x, Win2000 and finally Windows 7. At that point I pretty much stopped using Windows at work.

  • I even remember Windows 1.03

    Also at that time, DJs were called Wurlitzer.

  • But you could bring it back with a command prompt scandisk and defrag, usually.
  • by bb_matt ( 5705262 ) on Sunday December 12, 2021 @03:52PM (#62073003)

    Never heard of it ... /s

    Avoided it completely, as I'd switched to win2k long before it shat itself onto the world.

    And, as everyone knows, win2k was the best version of windows microsoft ever released - XP and win7 were just iterations of it - and as we know, it was borne out of windows NT.

    Nothing microsoft have released since, has surpassed just how damn good win2k was.

    • CHTST (Came here to say that)

      Win2k was the first Windows OS that I found could stay up for an entire week without becoming unstable (as a desktop). After a week? YMMV. If used as a server, it could stay stable longer, depending on what it was running.

      I got the firm to start doing a weekly bounce on the Win servers, and that decreased the number of "random" failures during the week (during a previous decade I used to have to do that to some of my Unix boxen, too--the ones operating as monolithic servers, but

  • What Do You Remember About Windows ME?

    Blue, lots of Blue .... with white writing on it.

  • Simply wrong, Windows Me - was based off Windows 98 however with a bit more hiding accessability to the initial DOS-Boot.

    https://www.computerworld.com/... [computerworld.com]

    And btw. it wasn't that bad nor did it run worse than Win98.

    I used it on this configuration
    - Celeron333A
    - 440BX
    - AGP/Voodoo Banshee
    - 128mbyte
    - SB16

    And it worked quite well.

    But when I discovered the Beta3 of Win2k - WinME was forgotten.

  • No one cares about Windows ME (except to draw hate on it).

    Windows 2000 came out the same year and still has some love.

  • Absolutely nothing, since I switched from Windows 98SE to Mac OS X.

    In fact, I've never used Windows ME in my life, not even for a second.

  • at the time and remember making sure to always tell TechData and other wholesale outlets to make sure all systems ordered came with 98se and NOT Me. If any system did happen to come in with Me it was instantly upgraded to 98se. Windows Me was a disaster, especially for techs having to deal with it. My shop simply said no. If a customer wanted Me we happily referred them to the local competition. Let them deal with it. (Which, LOL, they did to us too!)
  • You bought a Windows ME computer and a matching printer and throughout his entire life with the computer never had a problem with it. Literally everyone else I knew found Windows ME was a horror show.

    Also and I can't prove this, but I'm fairly sure that Windows ME was only released because there are marketing department was worried people would get out of the habit of buying new Windows software every year. And that the product had been worked on and discarded as too unstable and too low quality to rele
  • That was probably the point were I realized that Microsoft is just a bunch of 2nd rated amateurs when it comes to software and operating systems. Since then, I have seen nothing that would change my mind on that.

  • Let's see. I bought a Compaq desktop machine at Best Buy one weekend because I needed another PC to use as a test machine for some software I was working on for work, and I needed it right then. It came with ME pre-installed. Got it home, turned it on, and went straight to a BSOD, again, right out of the box. Said "Nope, fuck this", grabbed a 2000 workstation install CD and, yea, that sums up my experience with ME.
  • Before 2013, most of our employees had desktop computers and each office had a sharable laptop. I as sent for training on a new CMS that was being developed and we had to bring a laptop. Ours were taken and there was a power differential between the admin staff and lawyers. I couldn't make even a polite request.

    I brought my new computer from home and used it. After the training was over, I got a call from network security. When I got there, the officer showed me a list of login counts for the department.

  • I did desktop support at a company with thousands of Windows 95/98 clients, and I encountered quite a few Windows ME boxes in the mix... so I built a few to mess with them in our work area.

    Windows ME would kill itself in three steps:

    1) It took forever to shut down, so users would eventually force shutdown.
    2) After a forced shutdown, it would run CHKDSK.
    3) CHKDSK would eventually decide that the System32 directory was corrupt, and delete most or all of it.

    It looked like they were going to use it a
  • I've used most versions of Windows since 95, and the only ones I've skipped are Windows ME and the base Windows 8.

    I went straight from 98 to 2000, which was a significant improvement.

    I used ME once, on a secondhand machine I was repairing for a friend. Fixed it by digging out a copy of 98 (and later a lightweight Linux distro) for it. Both worked better than ME.

  • I remember it being nice when it worked, and how spectacularly terrible it was when it failed. Thankfully I'd just learned the habit of keeping data separate from the system drive as much as possible, because I was re-imaging often. Every so often, for reasons I could never quite nail down, it would vomit up my video card's drivers and refuse to work with them right without a great deal of effort and swearing. It was far easier to just have an image, then slash and burn. Once I got my hands on 2k I was ecst
  • For people not using NT. As far as Windows operating systems lucky enough to have gone from WFW to NT 3.5.1 never to look back. The whole 95/98/ME misadventure was not something I personally suffered thru.

    Felt a lot better once XP became mainstream. Now I feel much worse since Windows has been weaponized against end users to treat them like shit and track/spy/stalk them.

    There was a time where I looked forward to new shit even new Microsoft shit. Now I just want to throw up.

  • I was had been running Windows NT and Windows 98 at the time, and had no compelling reason to upgrade.

    I did get sucked into both Vista and Windows 8 unfortunately. At least Microsoft admitted the mistake with 8 and gave you a free upgrade.

  • I remember it was panned for no reasons as it wasn't more unstable than Windows 95, 98 and 98 SE before it. In fact it had features which allowed it to be more stable, e.g. it first introduced system restore.

    Personally I liked it, though even more luckily Windows XP soon followed and ended the era of OS'es based on MS-DOS with no real memory protection and no real multitasking.

  • I don't remember much about Windows me, because I went from 98se straight to Linux and never back, whereas at work it was NT and xp alongside UNIX for real work. But I do remember using VaroDVD to watch movies. No special card required.
  • One of the things Windows ME came with, which separated it from W98, was the Secure Audio Path DRM stack, where media can require that all hardware drivers be signed before it would be allowed to play. This was back in the days of a push for a SDMI standard (basically cross-platform DRM across everything that would disallow copying stuff from a device to a computer, max two devices, or three total a song could be copied to at a time, heavy watermarking, etc.). At this time, Apple wasn't even in the MP3 pl

  • ME was the only OS from microsoft that lasted less than 2 days on my machine. it was that unstable. However, I loved the concept of system restore and the UI looked better than 98/2K.

    i had a very old compaq laptop at the time that came with 95 i think. I kept getting tired of the bluescreens, so i eventually installed XP when it was released. However, XP didn't run well with 64 MB of ram even after manually disabling services. So i thought to install windows 2000 as it was supposedly very stable.

    2000 driver

  • by Bert64 ( 520050 ) <bert@[ ]shdot.fi ... m ['sla' in gap]> on Monday December 13, 2021 @12:49AM (#62074211) Homepage

    ME didn't actually remove DOS, it just made it much harder to access it. DOS was still there underneath the ui, and was used for the boot process. The old "exit to dos" option was gone.

  • by mikeebbbd ( 3690969 ) on Monday December 13, 2021 @01:17AM (#62074251)

    I just sat on Windows 98SE. It was a good, pretty much stable OS that most stuff in ME could be installed to (like the moviemaker) as well as a number of utilities from 2000. It served me well for at least 5 years in a couple of computers, until XP reached SP2 and was worth upgrading to. At the time, MS charged real money (about $100) to upgrade to a new OS version, so you really wanted to be sure it was going to provide some benefit before doing so. I still have 98SE, with all the patches and updates and a few that I didn't even know about at the time (there still a small enthusiast collection for it) running in VirtualBox, for a couple of games from back then. I also understand that there's a fork of DOSBOX that supports installation of all of the DOS-based versions of Windows including 98 and, with some caveats, ME, which I have to investigate and which might make the VirtualBox hack unnecessary. And it's funny, the first laptop I got assigned to me at work was a heavy, gray beast with a 486 running Windows 98SE - it ran Word etc. - what passed for Office at the time - and ran for about 4 hours on a battery charge.

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