Her Instagram Handle Was 'Metaverse.' Last Month, It Vanished. (nytimes.com) 249
Five days after Facebook changed its name to Meta, an Australian artist found herself blocked, with seemingly no recourse, from an account documenting nearly a decade of her life and work. From a report: In October, Thea-Mai Baumann, an Australian artist and technologist, found herself sitting on prime internet real estate. In 2012, she had started an Instagram account with the handle @metaverse, a name she used in her creative work. On the account, she documented her life in Brisbane, where she studied fine art, and her travels to Shanghai, where she built an augmented reality company called Metaverse Makeovers. She had fewer than 1,000 followers when Facebook, the parent company of Instagram, announced on Oct. 28 that it was changing its name. Henceforth, Facebook would be known as Meta, a reflection of its focus on the metaverse, a virtual world it sees as the future of the internet. In the days before, as word leaked out, Ms. Baumann began receiving messages from strangers offering to buy her Instagram handle. "You are now a millionaire," one person wrote on her account. Another warned: "fb isn't gonna buy it, they're gonna take it." On Nov. 2, exactly that happened.
Early that morning, when she tried to log in to Instagram, she found that the account had been disabled. A message on the screen read: "Your account has been blocked for pretending to be someone else." Whom, she wondered, was she now supposedly impersonating after nine years? She tried to verify her identity with Instagram, but weeks passed with no response, she said. She talked to an intellectual property lawyer but could afford only a review of Instagram's terms of service. "This account is a decade of my life and work. I didn't want my contribution to the metaverse to be wiped from the internet," she said. "That happens to women in tech, to women of color in tech, all the time," added Ms. Baumann, who has Vietnamese heritage.
Early that morning, when she tried to log in to Instagram, she found that the account had been disabled. A message on the screen read: "Your account has been blocked for pretending to be someone else." Whom, she wondered, was she now supposedly impersonating after nine years? She tried to verify her identity with Instagram, but weeks passed with no response, she said. She talked to an intellectual property lawyer but could afford only a review of Instagram's terms of service. "This account is a decade of my life and work. I didn't want my contribution to the metaverse to be wiped from the internet," she said. "That happens to women in tech, to women of color in tech, all the time," added Ms. Baumann, who has Vietnamese heritage.
play the race card (Score:5, Insightful)
play the race card
Re:play the race card (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, this has nothing to do with her gender and amount of pigment in her skin, and everything to do with Facebook going "Your stuff is now our stuff because we want it more."
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Was your father's family home in Mexico, or the US? It doesn't make it any better that it got bulldozed, but if in Mexico then it could hardly be attributed to his being a minority (though things like lower economic status could clearly still be at play).
It's true that it's often the poor neighborhoods in the US that get freeways cut through them, but at the same time eminent domain is hardly an issue that only affects poor/minority areas. As an example, we could debate the merits of the border wall (but
Re: play the race card (Score:3)
Re: play the race card (Score:2)
Lie down with Zuck,
Get up with fleas.
Re: play the race card (Score:4, Interesting)
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Why not both [youtu.be]?
I had no idea that Vietnamese women were women of color. Or that everyone is closing their accounts because of their skin color and their vagina.
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I had no idea that Vietnamese women were women of color.
To be fair, anyone who isn't Norwegian or Irish is a person of colour.
Those cute Irish chicks with the freckles though. Multicolour? Sorry, I just adore freckles!
Re:play the race card (Score:5, Insightful)
She didn't claim that this happened because of her race or gender, she just pointed out that this is particularly common for people of her race and gender.
Is it really? Is it not also common for anyone who isn't rich and/or famous? Seems it's common for neither, because it's pretty rare for you to choose the future name of a company's product as a handle a decade in advance on a platform that the company will eventually own before the company decides on that name, but after you created the handle.
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Re:play the race card (Score:5, Insightful)
play the race card
You're being modded down, but you're correct: She IS playing the race card, and her being a woman or Vietnamese has nothing to do with what's going on. Facebook would have stolen her account if she were white, black, or purple and polka-dotted. She had something that their company wanted, and they took it because they could get away with taking it. Doesn't matter what's between her legs or what pigment her skin is. She had. They wanted. They took. There's really not anymore to it than that. They would have stolen it from a white man of similar income and status just as quickly.
Her stupidly playing the race card is going to be a distraction from the very real wrong that was done to her, and hinder her in her fight to set things right.
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Her account has already been restored. As well-fitting as the "rich person takes from poor person" narrative seems to be, it is much more likely that this was the fault of an automated enforcement system. All the big players are using them now, and further erect very solid barriers between the end-users who are impacted by failures of enforcement and the staff who could fix the error. It saves them a lot of money this way. Google is absolutely notorious for this, which is why I have de-googled my life.
I
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You're being modded down, but you're correct: She IS playing the race card, and her being a woman or Vietnamese has nothing to do with what's going on
Really? Does Instagram regularly suspend people's accounts and refuse to engage with them in any way when people contest it, for periods in excess of a month? Is being contacted by the New York Times a prerequisite for an audience with the Grand Arbiters of All Things in the Instagram world? I wouldn't know, I don't have an account there and probably never will, but is that is what it takes to get a response from a fucking SOCIAL media company?
Re:play the race card (Score:5, Insightful)
Do you think they (probably some mid-level manager) would have done it if it were a rich and famous white man?
No?
The rich and famous part obviously has more to do with it than the white man part. It's not like Beyonce's instagram handle is in any danger.
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Yes, actually,,, they would have. The only difference that status would make in this regard is the amount of effort that it might take on the part of someone to get things rectified, A person of sufficient notoriety could probably get the whole thing sorted out with a phone call or two on his or her end. This woman had to do a bit more legwork than that to get her account back, but regardless, i
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If she was famous then may not. Honestly, I really doubt that they went through all the posts to verify if she was a women of color and safe to delete.
Re:play the race card (Score:4, Informative)
If she was famous then may not. Honestly, I really doubt that they went through all the posts to verify if she was a women of color and safe to delete.
Her face is all over the account [instagram.com]. The moment they looked at the profile picture they would have known race + gender.
And it's not something explicit like "oh, Vietnamese women, safe to delete". It's basically deciding if the account holder deserves to keep their the account even though it it overlaps with the company's branding.
That weighing of whether someone deserves something is exactly where subconscious race & gender bias sneaks in.
Ars? (Score:5, Interesting)
Weird that you went with the NY Times when this was posted on Ars Technica yesterday.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-p... [arstechnica.com]
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Weird that you have a problem with it.
Re:Ars? (Score:4, Informative)
It's also a larger, more well-known news organization to the general public. Nothing to do with a mystical "progressive pecking order"
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Re:Ars? (Score:5, Informative)
Or because the NYT ran the story first? Contacted Meta first? Because the Ars article quotes the NYT article? All of those are true, so...Choose.
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Except it's not free. I cannot read the article at all. There is a huge popup blocking it.
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you're
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you're
That flink's a looser.
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Got me!
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Got me!
Ah - glad you didn't take offense, cuz none intended. Sometimes me fingers just have a mind of their own.
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me fingers just have a mind of their own.
Well at least you have one somewhere! I was starting to worry.
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me fingers just have a mind of their own.
Well at least you have one somewhere! I was starting to worry.
My special purpose in life is to be everyone's punchinello. 8^)
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What did flink's a looser do this time? Those things never stay where you put them...
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you're
That flink's a looser.
Loser. Unless he goes around untightening things, that is.
Spoiler: She got it back. (Score:5, Informative)
And Instagram had no (none) (really) idea what happened. It was allll a mistake, and they really didn't know why this happened. No clue at all.
Re:Spoiler: She got it back. (Score:4, Insightful)
she got her handle back, but where do I get my reputation back? she blamed it on the racism and sexism of white men, and that's all most people will remember
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She's not wrong.
They saw someone powerless with something that they wanted and so they figured they just take it.
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Do you actually believe that the dictatXs-that-be at InstaBookAWhatsaMetaGram that be really knew or cared about her gender, color, pronouns, wokeness, victimness, income, or anything else? They saw, they took, and it would have been exactly the same if the account holder had been a RSWCMGOA (rich straight white Christian male gun-owning American), the most hated, triggering combination for the woke liberal crowd.
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Re:Spoiler: She got it back. (Score:5, Insightful)
The problem is that she's being over-specific. Does anyone here really think Facebook would have hesitated for even a nanosecond if she was a strait white dude from Alabama?
Or conversely that Facebook wouldn't have seriously hesitated if she had a yacht for every season?
The 99% (or perhaps even the 99.9%) are disadvantaged enough without so willingly falling for divide and conquer tactics.
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As the AC said, you missed it. Facebook was clearly in the wrong. But they didn't do it because she is a woman or because she is Vietnamese or because she is Australian. The did it because they have buckets of cash and she doesn't. They would have done the same to a white man or a black woman from the U.S. They would have done it if she was Native American. They would have done it if she was Japanese. The only case where they wouldn't have done it is if she was very wealthy. The disparity of wealth and powe
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She's not wrong.
They saw someone powerless with something that they wanted and so they figured they just take it.
So it is not sexist and racist to call white men sexist and racist? Explain how specific statements based on skin color and brandishing a penis are what makes a person racist and sexist.
In wokeworld, only white men can be racist, and you can hate them because of their skin color and penis.
Now defend your belief. I say that the statement is extremely racist and as prejudiced as it is possible to be.
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So it is not sexist and racist to call white men sexist and racist? Explain how specific statements based on skin color and brandishing a penis are what makes a person racist and sexist
Friendly tip, from someone who is also male and white. Do not brandish it. Not even just the tip.
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So it is not sexist and racist to call white men sexist and racist? Explain how specific statements based on skin color and brandishing a penis are what makes a person racist and sexist
Friendly tip, from someone who is also male and white. Do not brandish it. Not even just the tip.
8^0
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Well, some of us might have wondering if you were racist and sexist if you'd kept your mouth shut, but now we can be sure that you are.
My dear prejudicial rando on Slashdot.
Race, is the largest social construct that humanity has ever foisted on itself.
Defining people by the amount of melanin in their epidermis is ridiculous and just a sort of tribal need to define an "other". A leftover.
A dark skinned human is just another human. Genetically about as identical as you can get. A superficial distinction based on geographic separation with minor differences at best.
Might as well call albino people a different race. Might as well call d
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It's not sexist and racist because we deserve it because of things we didn't do, to people we never met, in a time period we never lived in.
Get with the program.
Pretty much this. What amazes me is that they don't see that they are as racist and sexist as the KKK. Just a different "race" and sex they hate because of a person's "race" and sex.
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That had zero, fuck-all to do with race and color. It could have been the whitest, straightest, most middle-aged nothing of a man and it still would have happened if they had the handle metaverse. It's seriously dumb to have tied this story to race/gender/orientation/anything other than Facebook owned property = shit sandwich for the users.
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Try criminial charges (Score:2)
They stole her work. That's theft.
Re:Try criminial charges (Score:4, Insightful)
No, Meta didn't steal her work.
It's more like she had a gratis lease on a building and either party could cancel the lease with no notice and Meta decided to exercise their cancellation right.
Re: Try criminial charges (Score:3)
And the moral of the story is, dont put any work whatsoever to making the Internet rich with content, as someone can always invoke their cancellation right.
Like if the roads were privately owned, and the owner decided to rebrand as *I Be Manly* and shut down the roads to a business owning the acronym of the name IBM who existed for years prior. The moral of the story is, if the roads are private dont build a business there. Dont build a structure on a platform that doesnt belong to you.
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The moral is don't have the only copy of your work on the internet. Always have local backups. If one site is canceled, just re-upload somewhere else.
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I wonder if she has "Metaverse" as a username on Slashdot on some other non-Meta site. If so, she could sue the name out of them in trademark court.
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They stole her work. That's theft.
On the internet?
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The work she posted on someone else's platform for a decade that she paid $0 for?
The work that is so important that she had made zero backups of while posting it on a free site that she has no agreement with regarding protecting and retaining her life's work?
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Wrong, dear. The sheep are tasked to elect a master from a mere two candidates, both of which are there only to give the illusion of a choice, while working to promote the interests of the corporations that sponsor them, to slowly make you believe it's your place to own nothing, and be happy.
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Relax, sugar. I explain it more clearly, since I have a penis.
Rather important point to leave out here... (Score:5, Insightful)
The headline is pure clickbait.
From TFA:
On Dec. 2, a month after Ms. Baumann first appealed to Instagram to restore her account, The New York Times contacted Meta to ask why it had been shut down. An Instagram spokesman said that the account had been “incorrectly removed for impersonation” and would be restored. “We’re sorry this error occurred,” he wrote.
Two days later, the account was back online.
They restored her account. Possibly because the New York Times was on it and they didn't want the negative press, but that's not my point.
Stop posting these bullshit headline clearly designed to drive anger and rage clicks. It's despicable.
Re:Rather important point to leave out here... (Score:5, Insightful)
Possibly because the New York Times was on it and they didn't want the negative press...
Ya think? That kind of *IS* the point. A sneak thief who says they're sorry (they got caught) when the lights go on is still a dirty thief. The rage is deserved.
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Amongst the reasons that do give legitimate and real justification for anger and rage; being falsly accused of wrongdoing is right up there near the top of the list. I'm not normally one to cite scripture; but that one has been considered so heinous for so long there's a commandment on the topic. I'd even say that merely witnessing false accusations should rightly anger and enrage someone; because just because you're not the target now, the false accuser may decide to get his jollies by inventing some fak
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They restored her account. Possibly because the New York Times was on it and they didn't want the negative press, but that's not my point.
Stop posting these bullshit headline clearly designed to drive anger and rage clicks. It's despicable.
Sounds like rage clicks might have solved the problem on this one. Kind of sad the way everyday people are legally steamrolled over whenever a large corporation or billionaire has some new whim and this provides the best chance at some accountability. Well, at least until it’s mildly inconvenient anyway.
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Dear Dipshit,
Please note that the word "was" is past-tense. Now get the fuck off my lawn.
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Not only a free service, but a free service that she has no agreement with regarding archiving, protecting, and retaining her life's work.
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Even if it wasn't free, as soon as they cut it off there were no more "ads and data collection" related to her work.
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"I didn't want my contribution to the metaverse to be wiped from the internet," she said. "That happens to women in tech, to women of color in tech, all the time," added Ms. Baumann, who has Vietnamese heritage."
Oh give me a fucking break, lady. Beyond the pretentious, self-centered, self-important tone of this bullshit, you had to hang on the coat tails of the civil rights and the women's rights movements too, as if you're Coretta Scott fucking King because some toolbag at Facebook fucked up?
Should Facebook fix the account issue? Yes.
Did they fix it? Yes.
Is this moron Georgia O'Keeffe? No.
Is she the victim of a hate crime? No.
But she is very typical of heavy social media users in thinking they're God's gift to the humanities. Get down off your high horse and get back to polishing your mountain of participation trophies.
Re:I didn't want my contribution to the metaverse (Score:5, Funny)
pretentious, self-centered, self-important tone of this bullshit
Well, she is an artist...
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Re:I didn't want my contribution to the metaverse (Score:4, Insightful)
She may be a pretentious git. But that doesn't justify closing her account and falsely accusing her of fraud. The false accusation is especially heinous. Someone, perhaps more than one someone, at instagram deserves to burn for that.
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Nobody accused her of anything. Somebody hit a wrong button and somebody else undid it.
Quit blowing simple shit out of proportion. She's not a hero overcoming the Goliath of tech in an epic struggle gaining victories for women and minorities; she's a fucking user whose account was mistakenly closed temporarily and is now fine.
Someone deserves to burn for that? You want to light a human being on fire because a free Internet service account was temporarily unavailable? You want to set someone on fire? What th
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Nobody accused her of anything. Somebody hit a wrong button and somebody else undid it.
The service accused her of "pretending to be someone else". It's pretty fucking naive to think that facegram didn't go after @metaverse on purpose. You think someone just did that shit accidently? That there is some stupid shit.
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"I didn't want my contribution to the metaverse to be wiped from the internet," she said. "That happens to women in tech, to women of color in tech, all the time," added Ms. Baumann, who has Vietnamese heritage."
Oh give me a fucking break, lady. Beyond the pretentious, self-centered, self-important tone of this bullshit, you had to hang on the coat tails of the civil rights and the women's rights movements too, as if you're Coretta Scott fucking King because some toolbag at Facebook fucked up?
Should Facebook fix the account issue? Yes.
Did they fix it? Yes.
Is this moron Georgia O'Keeffe? No.
Is she the victim of a hate crime? No.
But she is very typical of heavy social media users in thinking they're God's gift to the humanities. Get down off your high horse and get back to polishing your mountain of participation trophies.
Hell hath no fury like that of a white guy who's worried that someone is playing the race card.
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Hell hath no fury like that of a white guy who's worried that someone is playing the race card.
I'm a white guy, and 99.9% of the time (go read my comment history if you don't believe me) I'm on the "other" side of this one. But this is ridiculous. The assertion that this was done to her because she's a minority female, or that this wouldn't have happened to her if she was an average white male, is laughable. When all you have is a handful of race cards, and play them any time something doesn't go your way, eventually you're gonna run out of them.
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Hell hath no fury like that of a white guy who's worried that someone is playing the race card.
I'm a white guy, and 99.9% of the time (go read my comment history if you don't believe me) I'm on the "other" side of this one. But this is ridiculous. The assertion that this was done to her because she's a minority female, or that this wouldn't have happened to her if she was an average white male, is laughable. When all you have is a handful of race cards, and play them any time something doesn't go your way, eventually you're gonna run out of them.
I've made the comment elsewhere [slashdot.org] but I absolutely think it's possible (even likely).
Basically the person needed to decide if she was important enough to keep the account.
This wasn't a situation where there's a clear standard, this was someone making a judgment call in a unique situation which makes it more likely that unconscious bias comes into play because there's no existing standard to compare your actions against.
Note, I don't think this was really a decision by Meta or Instagram or whatever, it was jus
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That's so meta of her.
Ah the race / sex card (Score:2, Informative)
Like is it was a white man they wouldn't have done it. That's the disgusting problem with this world.
Normal Person: Fired from job. Reason: Showed up late for work 30 times over an hour. - "Well I knew it would happen from being late all the time".
Feminist: Fired from job. Reason: Showed up late for work 30 times over an hour. - "They fired me because I'm an independent women"
Racial Activist: Fired from job. Reason: Showed up late for work 30 times over an hour. - "They fired me because I'm not white."
We c
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Total nonsense.
Re: Ah the race / sex card (Score:4, Insightful)
I know some white right wingers who cried that they got fired because everybody in the company was a leftist.
Crying and blaming is the only thing that seems to be universal nowadays, crossing race, gender, political side, and everything else.
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I've seen some leftist cry so hard they burn neighborhoods and cities in full riots
And I've seen righties so mad they overran a Hall of Congress.
Let's face it, if you're an extreme radical, it doesn't matter which side you're on, they're fucking retarded and a danger to everyone.
Right on. (no, seriously. 100% agree with you. I'm done with the firebrand politics on both sides.)
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Normal Person: Fired from job. Reason: Showed up late for work 30 times over an hour. - "Well I knew it would happen from being late all the time".
Well, actually, if comparing more closely, that first bullet point would be "They fired me because I'm a white man and they are just pandering". One thing all races and genders and such have in common is for some of them to manage to find unfair persecution in otherwise mundane bad things in their life.
Some of them have justified concerns about such persecution, others like the account holder in question do not, at least in this specific instance.
However, Instagram certainly has a bias issue: they are biase
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Well, actually, if comparing more closely, that first bullet point would be "They fired me because I'm a white man and they are just pandering". One thing all races and genders and such have in common is for some of them to manage to find unfair persecution in otherwise mundane bad things in their life
No, they said NORMAL PERSON. Whether that person is male, female, white, brown, gay, Chinese or Canadian they can be "normal". And a normal person who is late 30x and gets fired says "Yeah, I knew it would happen."
You are right though that straight white guys can play the "help help im being opressed" card to cover for their shitty personality and work ethic -- same as anyone else.
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Sure, but the omission of that class makes a certain implication, and best to be explicit that unfounded whining about persecution based on race/ethnicity/gender/class/etc can come from any sort of person.
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Like is it was a white man they wouldn't have done it. That's the disgusting problem with this world.
Normal Person: Fired from job. Reason: Showed up late for work 30 times over an hour. - "Well I knew it would happen from being late all the time".
Feminist: Fired from job. Reason: Showed up late for work 30 times over an hour. - "They fired me because I'm an independent women"
Racial Activist: Fired from job. Reason: Showed up late for work 30 times over an hour. - "They fired me because I'm not white."
We can do without these people. There are people who are racist and or sexist, but your car didn't run out of gas because it's racist.
Right Wing Apologist: White men regularly show up late and are subject to teasing from the manager, black woman shows up late a few times and gets fired. - "I'm so outraged that you're bringing up race & gender when you can't conclusively prove that it was the deciding factor!!!"
watch Zuckerberg (Score:2)
He'll come along claiming she hijacked the name and claim it for his newly renamed meta company. And with his resources she won't be able to stop him. She'd better backup everything off that name and find a new home for it or he'll claim that's all his, too.
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Instagram is already a Metard company, so that's exactly what happened. The media getting involved was a bit too much, though, apparently.
WTF slashdot (Score:2)
Thus has already been resolved (from the media attention if course), quite changes the whole thing:
âoeThis account was incorrectly removed for impersonation, and weâ(TM)ve now restored it," Stephanie Otway, a Meta company spokesperson, told Ars. "Weâ(TM)re sorry that this happened.â
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Translation: "OOOPPS, our bad. We're so sorry you caught us!"
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You mean
We are sorry we were caught.
We will try again next year,
you are the product (Score:2)
You have no recourse when this kind of thing happens because you are the product, you are not the customer. You are the product as long as it is convenient, if some interest out weighs you as the product then you are done and that is it.
Giant internet based corporations that make billions of dollars need to have processes to address issues like this, that do not involve calling them out in the media.
People still think they are customers (Score:2)
They are not. They are the product, to be profiled, categorized, advertised to, and manipulated by the platform. Nothing more.
Mark Zuckerberg sold Meta Platforms Inc. stock (Score:2)
Morale of the story... (Score:2)
1. Don't hope a service or web site you don't pay a nickel to over a decade will preserve your work indefinitely. This is especially true if you don't have a documented agreement with them to archive whatever you've placed on their site.
2. You are responsible for backing your stuff up. Not anyone else.
3. If you happen to pick a user name the company who is hosting your content likes and/or hates, it may get taken back. Plan accordingly.
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Ok, grabbed her acvount (Score:2)
So, why did they not just give her a new account name and notify her of the change? Instead, they stole her account name and closed her account. Their actions were simply unnecessary.
Had she been rich and famous with the resources to fight back, they would have taken the gentler approach.
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give her a new account name
"Trump" isn't being used right now.
Is there any way to downvote the article poster (Score:2)
Ask for a few million friends
Not that Facebook thought (Score:2)
Legality, corporate good-will, ownership (Score:2)
First, Meta (FB) may have been within their legal rights to take it. Before you reach for the pitch-fork, hear me out. It's their web site, so it's their rules. What does the ToS even say about handles? It's like istartedi here on Slashdot. Who really owns it? It's a doo-hicky on somebody's else's web site, and if Slashdot wants to wipe out everything I've ever posted it seems like they're within their rights even though it would be immoral.
The tricky part is that my ramblings here aren't worth much i
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She should now back up anything important. (Score:2)
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