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Rivian CEO Apologizes, Walks Back Preorder Price Hikes After Customer Backlash (motorauthority.com) 30

cartechboy writes: Rivian's CEO, RJ Scaringe, admitted the company messed up. In a lengthy apology, the executive said the company broke people's trust. Rivian's walking back the large, in some cases 20%, price increases introduced earlier in the week for any preorder holder prior to March 1. [However, the price increases stay in effect for anyone who ordered after March 1.] "We wrongly decided to make these changes apply to all future deliveries, including pre-existing configured preorders," Scaringe said, noting that the company "failed to to appreciate" how customers viewed their configurations and pricing.

Scaringe also acknowledged the company "wrongly assumed" the newly announced dual-motor models and standard battery pack would provide satisfactory price points similar to the original configurations.
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Rivian CEO Apologizes, Walks Back Preorder Price Hikes After Customer Backlash

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  • "Scaringe said, noting that the company "failed to to appreciate" how customers viewed their configurations and pricing" - Is there actually a term like "mansplaining" but for companies trying to explain why they did something indefensible?

    • by Joviex ( 976416 )

      Is there actually a term like "mansplaining" but for companies trying to explain why they did something indefensible?

      Business as usual, or just the short form: Business.

      • Yeah, I know. I'm not surprised at all about what they did, just how poorly they tried to explain it. The term I'm looking for involves digging yourself in deeper than necessary by trying to explain more than is necessary. It's like the difference between saying "Sorry" and "Sorry this upset you". Those 3 extra words do the opposite of helping your apology, and that's exactly what they did.

        • It's like the difference between saying "Sorry" and "Sorry this upset you".

          Sorry they got caught. Sorry not sorry. unashamed. non-apology. unrepentant. unregretful. remorseless. impenitent. or my fave: aholes.

    • by Kokuyo ( 549451 )

      "Being cunts" comes to mind but it's rather universal.

  • Pretty bold move to just completely ignore a sales/build contract ... especially when you're not really proven to be able to produce in the first place.
    If somebody wanted it in pink and it suddenly came in orange they would probably be pissed too.
    The perceived difference between 4 and 2 motors, and 'large' and 'standard' battery packs probably matter a little more than color.

    I'm a huge fan of legit ordering a vehicle the way you want on the internet without having to spend 4 hours convincing some jackass lo

  • Seems to be turmoil in the fledgling EV space. Looking historically there were many car brands that came and went during the dawn of the ICE. Today, GM selling off their shares of the EV truck company at a loss. Ford spinning off its EV division into a separate company. Tesla talking about lithium iron batteries because of cost, better reliability and better safety. Decent amount of churn. Plus the $400million dollar loss of EVs when the Felicity Ace caught fire and sank. Also despite many multi-mill
    • GM selling off their shares of the EV truck company at a loss.

      Sort of, they divested themselves of Lordstown motors stock.

      Ford spinning off its EV division into a separate company.

      This is just plain wrong, internally they will have two divisions (ICE and EV) but Ford's goal is to become an EV company.

      Tesla is by most accounts successful. No churn there either.

      Nothing you mentioned are fledgling companies, at least mention Fisker, Lucid, or Nikola and it's cancelled Badger truck if you are going to talk about fledgling companies that might not make it.

  • by AlanObject ( 3603453 ) on Friday March 04, 2022 @12:30PM (#62326067)

    I drive a Model Y in Fremont, and a few weeks ago I saw a Rivian parked on the street just below the Mission Peak trail head. White paint, dark trim. It is a fine looking truck doing what it is supposed to be doing -- serving the owners that can afford it in their outdoorsy activities. (That trail is quite challenging BTW).

    But people are learning that there are EVs and there are EVs. Currently the demand is so high that anybody who has halfway decent product will pretty much sell all they can make. That probably led the Rivian people to believe they were perfectly safe jacking up the price. After all Tesla upped their prices recently and didn't suffer for it so why shouldn't they?

    Well we just saw why not. You don't renege on deposit contracts. Tesla did not do that at least.

    But I am more interested in why they even tried. It sounds like they have cost-of-goods problems that are serious enough that they wouldn't be able to make a profit on them at the price quoted two years ago. Two reasons for this: 1) the supply chain is crazy, driving inflation: parts when you can get them can cost double what they did just a short while ago and everybody is in the same boat (literally). 2) They did not obsessively cost optimize their product the way Tesla did. What was important to them was getting to market.

    It doesn't get much press but there are dozens if not hundreds of innovations that Tesla has used its engineering/design talent for that was focused on getting the cost of the product down. Add that to the willingness to vertically integrate and spend like drunken Rajas on factory innovations and that gives them a massive competitive advantage for the day - whenever it comes - that supply will catch up with demand.

    Rivian is in a pinch but I think they will do OK. Tesla will continue to cruise to their revenue/profit targets. But Rivian is not Elon Musk just because they have a pretty good EV product.

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