Windows 11 Gets a Desktop Watermark on Unsupported Hardware (theverge.com) 149
Microsoft is pushing ahead with plans to warn Windows 11 users that have installed the operating system on unsupported hardware. In a new update to Windows 11, a watermark has appeared on the desktop wallpaper for unsupported systems, alongside a similar warning in the landing page of the settings app. From a report: Microsoft had been testing these changes last month, but they're now rolling out to Release Preview just ahead of a full release to all Windows 11 users in the coming days. While Microsoft doesn't mention the addition of a watermark in its "improvements" list for this update, testers have noticed it's included. If Windows 11 is running on unsupported hardware, a new desktop watermark will state "System requirements not met. Go to settings to learn more." It's similar, but far less prominent, to the semi-transparent watermark that appears in Windows if you haven't activated the OS.
Switched Back to W10 in 36 Hours (Score:4, Interesting)
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Thank you both, I will now not even look at W11 until it cannot be avoided. Such a PoS...
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Hmm... I wonder if there's some sort of PCIE card or similar I can add to my W10 rig that will make it fail the W11 upgrade test ?
I'll be doing my best to block it via my router etc. but it would be really useful to be able to spike it via some incompatible hardware.
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All you have to do is disable TPM in your BIOS, then you are no longer W11 compatible, that's what I did to keep my desktop and laptop from being "accidentally" updated.
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All you have to do is disable TPM in your BIOS, then you are no longer W11 compatible, that's what I did to keep my desktop and laptop from being "accidentally" updated.
Like stepping on a land mine to avoid being told what to do by your general.
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A path not taken. (Score:3)
*shrug* So where's the incentive to upgrade to eleven?
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For now, not unless you have a good reason to. I think there is better HDR support, an improved the Linux subsystem, Android support, maybe a few other things. I think you need it if you want to take advantage of the new Intel CPUs with p/e-cores too.
But in a few years, I expect it to be almost mandatory with the latest hardware. Hopefully, they will have some of the issues addressed by then.
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For now, not unless you have a good reason to. I think there is better HDR support, an improved the Linux subsystem, Android support, maybe a few other things. I think you need it if you want to take advantage of the new Intel CPUs with p/e-cores too.
But in a few years, I expect it to be almost mandatory with the latest hardware. Hopefully, they will have some of the issues addressed by then.
Then Windows ne plu ultra edition will come out, followed by the surprise buttsex version and I'll just note that Microsoft is attempting to create the early 1990's when a computer was obsolete the second you set it up.
I have a less than year old i5 Gen 10 all in one I'm working on for some folks - it is not eligible for W11. Also a 3 year old HP envy - not eligible.
I do remember that when W10 came out, it could be installed on Core 2 duos
But hey - the Stockholm syndrome is strong in many - so if
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*shrug* So where's the incentive to upgrade to eleven?
Stockholm Syndrome. A lot of people have been inculcated with the idea that the bad guys will pwn you immediately if you don't have the very latest Windows software.
It's difficult to understand why anyone w/ upgrade (Score:2)
I'm on the sidelines here, but I haven't seen a great deal of positive things said about the Window 11 update. Most of the news seems to be bad, and most of the good stuff seems to be trivial. Even the advertisement on Microsoft's webpage doesn't seem to point out any major advances (even though it is worded to imply there are).
What's the deal here? Is W11 really just a push for Microsoft Teams, along with a bid by MS to force their users into their cloud products?
Re:It's difficult to understand why anyone w/ upgr (Score:4, Interesting)
It's definitely a bit buggy. They still haven't gotten rid of the Control Panel fully yet, but the settings app is a little more unified.
Microsoft is always pointing at security as the major advantage. Most of the same things that prevent malware are the same things that enable more restrictive DRM. And further locks down hardware for enterprise. Two of those 3 prongs are driven by money, while the third is the public marketing angle.
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security against threats like deviant users wanting to control their system
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All of that stuff can be disabled if you own the hardware (see note about enterprise) but there are no guarantees that heavy-DRM software will allow you to run their software. As long as they leave the owner with their rights, I can't really argue.
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And by unified you mean even more difficult to use because unrelated items are lumped in random places.
There is no legitimate reason to get rid of Control Panel. Everything needed is in one place with everything spelled out what it relates to. It is one of the few good things Microsoft did.
The only reason I can think of shoving everything into Settings is because the incompetent progra
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They still haven't gotten rid of the Control Panel fully yet, but the settings app is a little more unified.
And by unified you mean even more difficult to use because unrelated items are lumped in random places.
You would think they would have learned from Windows 8 with it's whack-a mole administration system. I guess not, as their fans have accepted everything that Microsoft has decided they'll accept. And there is no indications that there is either a limit of abuse given by microsoft, or a limit of abuse the loyal fans are willing to endure.
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I've realized that its resulted in me remembering msc names, just to cope with the issue of not being able to find what I want.
Yup, which is so clunky. It would be tremendous if Windows would just settle on something, then leave it be. At least for keeping the machine working. Even like with device manager - seems to move all around, even in regular updates. I'm usually pressed for time, and muscle memory is my friend.
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And the settings are stupid as a brick compared to the control panel, if you want to know anything or understand anything you won't see the thing you want like software version.
For every version of windows since XP the user interface has become dumber and dumber and if you want to do something you'll end up at the command prompt to figure out the information you need as an advanced user.
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It still needs a LOT of work. But navigating through the Settings app is WAY faster than the Control Panel ever was. I hate the verbosity of Powershell and you can't do nearly as much with the command prompt. Otherwise it would be fine to do the advanced stuff by text command. It's a good trade-off for speed for the simple things vs the Control Panel.
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Control panel with small icons is the easiest way to get a grip on it.
The namings in the settings are often wonky and hard to figure out what they are called in this version.
Re:It's difficult to understand why anyone w/ upgr (Score:5, Insightful)
I didn't do it immediately. Eventually updated one laptop, ran it for a few months, then upgraded my desktop. The changes are generally trivial (I'm convinced most people don't realize you can align the taskbar to the left side just like in win10) and it feels more responsive. There are a host of small QoL improvements to the taskbar/notifications/etc. Despite the # bump, Windows, like all operating systems, are basically just live services at this point. Nobody should expect ground up changes to operating systems. I don't get the "bid to force users into their cloud products". I don't even know in what way they do this. I don't use OneDrive, and other than an icon here or a taskbar app there - so minor I totally forget the specific experience - I disable the day I install it, OneDrive hasn't been a single point of friction for me. I will say this, I really do hate that searches initiated from the taskbar are restricted to Bing but it's that way with Windows 10 as well. I admit that's some shitty vendor lock-in that impacts me.
I'm sure I'll be pilloried for saying positive things about it. It's not some drastic improvement, but it certainly isn't a downgrade from win10, and anybody who says Windows isn't under decent development stewardship these days is an operating system partisan. I use Windows because it's what all the commercial software I need ship on, but it compares favorably to the other options and between windows11 today and windows8 or 2000 or ... whatever, I think people are fucking drunk if they think things were less frictional or more stable back in the "good old days". I'm a c++ programmer, I produce music, I'm a heavy web user (who isn't tho), I game a lot, and ALL operating systems today are just SO much better than they used to be - even a short while ago - Linux distros and OSX included. Anybody sticking to ANY old version of operating systems must be doing so because they're primary use case for a computer is axe grinding.
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I'm pretty sure you can still do that. I meant that you cannot change the web results to use a search provider of your choosing.
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I'm sure I'll be pilloried for saying positive things about it. It's not some drastic improvement, but it certainly isn't a downgrade from win10, and anybody who says Windows isn't under decent development stewardship these days is an operating system partisan. I use Windows because it's what all the commercial software I need ship on, but it compares favorably to the other options and between windows11 today and windows8 or 2000 or ... whatever, I think people are fucking drunk if they think things were less frictional or more stable back in the "good old days". I'm a c++ programmer, I produce music, I'm a heavy web user (who isn't tho), I game a lot, and ALL operating systems today are just SO much better than they used to be - even a short while ago - Linux distros and OSX included. Anybody sticking to ANY old version of operating systems must be doing so because they're primary use case for a computer is axe grinding.
I don't agree. Computers are nothing more than tools to get things done. In the "good old days" operating system updates provided useful value. Today windows changes are just a source of avoidable and unnecessary annoyance for purely selfish reasons that waste peoples time and money for little to nothing in return.
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That sounds like exactly the same thing /. was full of back when Windows 8 was released and people's vision of "everything" an OS should do was satisfied by Win2k. Or what /. was full of when Win2k was released and how it had a bunch of stuff they'd never use/need and how Windows 98 was more than adequate. The more things change ...
Those "avoidable and unnecessary annoyances" (pretty sure I have a decent idea of which features you're thinking of here) amount to a couple of minutes of configuring "No, I don'
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That sounds like exactly the same thing /. was full of back when Windows 8 was released and people's vision of "everything" an OS should do was satisfied by Win2k. Or what /. was full of when Win2k was released and how it had a bunch of stuff they'd never use/need and how Windows 98 was more than adequate. The more things change ...
This line of argument is fundamentally unfalsifiable. One can justify any change no matter how ridiculous by simply yelling "change adverse". My recommendation for what its worth is to stick to the facts. Stick to merit. If something provides value then articulate in specific terms what the value is and why you believe it is worth costs.
Those "avoidable and unnecessary annoyances" (pretty sure I have a decent idea of which features you're thinking of here) amount to a couple of minutes of configuring "No, I don't want to use that" in Windows 10 or Windows 11.
This has not been my experience with Windows 10. As an experiment I tried and it took several days of screwing around just to get it into a "usable" state to say nothin
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The technical core of the system is solid because it's still an evolution of the NT core (...7,8,10) and it keeps getting new interesting features but IMO the UI is worse than that of previous versions and of course Mic
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There's no extra click - there's a near instantaneous ungrouping /w small previews and labels when you hover over the taskbar icon. It took me all of about 5 minutes to get used to and now vastly prefer it. I suppose if you don't use many windows (this might have been me decades ago) there are some workflows in which not grouping them might be preferable. You lose the ability to close all windows belonging to a specific app at once tho, which is a tradeoff I'm no longer willing to make.
BUT ... you *can* ung
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Most of us have had the grouped windows on for a very long time. I want to say at least since Windows 7, but I think you could even group them in the older style UI too. If you have a lot of Windows open, it's just not manageable without the grouping. You just have to briefly hover over the icon and it shows you previews of all the open windows in addition to the names, which tends to be a lot more useful than just the names.
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Win 11 is an optional upgrade for win 10 uses, Win 10 has 2-3 more years of supported life remaining. People are upgrading because of user preference, not a specific business case AFAIK. Vendors are offering Win 11 systems because it's the latest and greatest, and corporate users, as in the past, have downgrade rights to run Win 10 if they prefer.
The issue is Linux advocates mis-representing the situation in an attempt to make their preferred OS (pick a district) look better, and mindless tech 'journalists'
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Yeah, my macbook is happily running on a several versions ago version of OS X. I think it might have popped up a notification that a new version was available, no pressure. If I want to upgrade, it's free, forever. Ditto with Linux.
My mother's Windows laptop popped up some demand that she upgrade IMMEDIATELY OR ELSE. It was threatening enough I got a panicked phone call about it and she was late for a zoom meeting.
Meanwhile Windows, on the rare occasion it's allowed to run on my desktop, now puts up in BIG
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That's what people said about Windows XP when it came out, and Windows 7, and Windows 10. Nobody likes to change. But eventually, each of these releases stabilized and became accepted by Windows users. Windows 11 will too.
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Yes I did. People never fully accepted Vista or Windows 8. Having used Windows 11 personally now since it came out, I don't think it's in that category. Generally speaking, I can easily forget that I'm on Windows 11 vs. Windows 10. I frankly don't use the Start menu enough to care about how it's arranged, I just use the Windows key and start typing whatever app I want, just like I have for years. Performance seems fine, and the rounded corners don't really matter. My biggest beef is the new right-click menu
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Maybe they got annoyed by everyone pointing out that Windows XP lasted for X years so they decided to cycle their version numbers faster.
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I've been running Windows 11 for a while now and so far the best thing I have to say about it is I like the rounded windows corners. Other than that, I really don't recommend people update to it over Windows 10. Unless you just want too.
to arbitrary on hardware requirements (Score:2)
for one thing not all systems really need things like
Graphics Card / chip that can do 3D. Think in embedded systems and severs (they have basic video as part of the IPMI)
TPM (maybe not in embedded systems and not in all servers)
Display: High definition (720p) not need for all settings.
UEFI maybe but some things are in bios mode / usage in some VM's
Storage: 64 GB ok but not for some embedded systems (windows embedded does let you cut down the size)
Processors/CPUs gen limits are to much
Internet Conne
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For all those devices there is the long term service branch of Windows.
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Graphics Card / chip that can do 3D. Think in embedded systems and severs (they have basic video as part of the IPMI)
Microsoft has other things they want you to buy for that rather than Windows 11 Home or Pro. Same for minimum storage. Which is really just base install + download space for major version updates. Do you know how many junk laptops got sold with 32GB EMMC that couldn't get Windows Updates because it was impossible to make room?
TPM (maybe not in embedded systems and not in all servers
It's the easiest way to get full-disk encryption without a startup password. It's really needed for both of those things.
UEFI is also required for the TPM-Bitlocker boot process.
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TPM (maybe not in embedded systems and not in all servers
It's the easiest way to get full-disk encryption without a startup password.
What would be the point of that? Easy access for somebody that steals the whole computer?
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How would they have access when they steal the computer? It's locked with a password.
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Once it boots you can bypass startup and run ntpasswd or some other tool to wipe the user password.
How?
I take it you've never used a TPM-backed FDE setup before. Or at least never looked at what it was doing under the hood. Bypassing startup would not be possible, as then the encryption key would not be available.
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How would they have access when they steal the computer? It's locked with a password.
If an FDE system can boot itself without a password then it is vulnerable to a cold boot attack.
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If you have secure boot on and boot options configured correctly, that cold boot attack would require transplanting the RAM to another computer while keeping it powered on.
But for 99.99% of cases (that aren't heavily targeted attacks), an attacker isn't going to have the knowledge or resources to even handle the cold boot attack. For the rest, you can have TPM + PIN boot set.
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If you have secure boot on and boot options configured correctly, that cold boot attack would require transplanting the RAM to another computer while keeping it powered on.
There is no such requirement. All one has to do is replace the RAM and or install an interposer and then turn on the machine. "powered on" is only necessary for ram you don't control.
But for 99.99% of cases (that aren't heavily targeted attacks), an attacker isn't going to have the knowledge or resources to even handle the cold boot attack. For the rest, you can have TPM + PIN boot set.
If you are going to use boot passwords Class 0 FDE is way more secure and does not use TPM.
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You don't run "servers" on Windows 11.
A monitor with less tan 720p resolution is hard to find, unless you have an old CRT or an Inel Atom era netbook.
Many people got burned by cheap low-end Win 10 tablets with only 32 gig storage which proved inadequate for the average user to even upgrade the OS shortly after purchase. Requiring 64 gigs is perfectly reasonable. MSoffers embedded versions of their desktop OSes that have different requirements more suitable for their use cases. The issue isn't upgrading embe
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MS accounts aren't REQUIRED
Yes. They are (unless we are arguing semantics on what required means). Upgrading from 10 they are not, but for a fresh install you have to really jump through hoops - way beyond unplugging the network cable. You have to kill the task for the network connection flow before it will allow a local account to be created.
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Windows 11 HOME edition does not require an MS Account, Win 11 PRO does.
As you indicate, an upgrade from Win 10 does not require an MS Account.
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Home absolutely requires an MS account. Pro only requires one if it's not domain joined. How many clean installs of both versions of 11 have you been doing?
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Linux? (Score:3)
Yet another reason to jump ship and find your favorite distro.
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It would be so much easier if there was a favourite distro and not the least hated one.
I switched several months ago. It was quite the process to find a distro that fucked things up only to a tolerable degree.
I feel I have found one that is more or less on par with Win10. It's ahead primarily by the factor of sticking it to MS. Which is, all things considered, not too bad a spot to be when you have to relearn an OS and thus new workflows.
But heaven on earth the linux experience certainly ain't.
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Relearning an OS is pretty trivial, the issue is re-learning how to accomplish anything of any complexity beyond basic email and web browsing.
Advocates like to say, for example, open source office applications are just as capable and in many cases compatible with Microsoft office, and if your goal is to merely open and review MS Office documents, spreadsheets or presentation that's fine, but if you are a content creator of any sophistication, you have to lean a new way to create your documents (application
Re: Linux? (Score:2)
I am yet to find something on Linux that does page layout with ligatures without a headache.
Latex is usable for documents, but not so much for postcards or fliers. Scribis is fine for layout, but doesn't do ligatures or true type style versions easily (at all?).
Does gimp do non destructive filter layers yet?
Last time I tried to use Linux for content creation it was a disaster, it was like stepping back decades.
On the other hand, dealing with tabular data and making a presentation in something like Google sl
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Hi Ken,
I get that, you get used to a set of tools and a certain workflow and its time consuming to learn new ones.
You could probably make that same argument for most new versions of Office and major Windows updates as well as migrating to macOS.
You can also run M$ Office in Linux now too.
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Relearning an OS is pretty trivial, the issue is re-learning how to accomplish anything of any complexity beyond basic email and web browsing
True, once you're reasonably adapt at one OS, whether it's WIN, MacOS or Linux and it does what yo need their is no strong incentive to change. In addition, if you have na issue with a MacOS or Windows chances are you can find someone who will help you.
Advocates like to say, for example, open source office applications are just as capable and in many cases compatible with Microsoft office, and if your goal is to merely open and review MS Office documents, spreadsheets or presentation that's fine, but if you are a content creator of any sophistication, you have to lean a new way to create your documents (application commands, menus, options aren't the same).
Besides learning a new UI often the Linux equivalent isn't fully feature compatible for key features so even opening a file, let alone use it, is problematic. I've recommended FOSS over the years to friends how just need a few specific features and have no
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they are not even good for reviewing MS office documents as they change the font to open source ones and the layout goes all wonky (not to mention the stupid colors are usually wrong)
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People running Windows 11 on unsupported hardware would have had to jump through hoops to do so, and their punishment is some size 6 font text in the bottom right of their wallpaper.
Precisely zero people will jump ship over this.
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A field of black suits me fine unless I'm stuck in a cube farm, then its Big Brother, or Pacman. I don't give my windows machines much face time anyway, after 30 years of windows it just keeps breaking things when it updates.
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A text overlay in the bottom right corner, most likely. Just like unactivated Windows 10.
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Nothing to do with black background. Click the link in the story for an actual screenshot of what happens.
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Great. Now all I have to do is wait for my vendors to make Linux builds...
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It's a non-intrusive way to let non-technical buyer know I'd a given system actually supports Windows 11 or if the system is merely capable of being made to run Windows 11 with hacks, by-passes,or even Microsoft-supported exceptions.
Windows 10 has 2-3 years more of fully-supported "life", but isn't it fun to watch Linux advocates rail on about imaginary issues - like MS forcing you to update your system, or MS abandoning current Win 10 user, or my favorite "this is thing that will push millions of windows users to wipe windows off their desktop and 'upgrade' to Linux!"
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If the last 37 years of utter shit from MS didn't force people to move to something else, nothing will. So fuck 'em; we can't allow idiots to define what computing is and if they want to chain themselves to a fourth-rate desktop leave them to it.
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Or maybe the last 37 years of Microsoft output hasn't been "utter shit" and it is just something that you personally don't like. Maybe for those that have continued to use MS software they find that it meets their needs. If the software meets their needs it isn't "utter shit".
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It's a non-intrusive way to let non-technical buyer know I'd a given system actually supports Windows 11 or if the system is merely capable of being made to run Windows 11 with hacks, by-passes,or even Microsoft-supported exceptions. ...
(Emphasis added.) While your description is technically accurate, the problem is that there are very, very few "buyers" of PCs which have been hacked to install Windows 11; the vast majority of unsupported PCs running Windows 11 are run by highly technical users who knew exactly what they were doing, and why. For these majority users, the watermark is nothing more than Microsoft chastising them for doing something that they "weren't supposed to be able to do"... and therefore, an annoyance which serves no p
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First off, Microsoft published a way to bypass hardware checks in Windows 11, explicitly so users could run Win 11 on (otherwise) unsupported hardware.
https://www.theregister.com/20... [theregister.com]
And the issue I'm thinking of is a non-technical person buying a second-hand computer at a flea market when the unscrupulous seller shows them the computer running Win 11.
Windows 11 was released in late October, 2021 (after being announced in July, 2021), the above guidance was published/shared by MS CEO a couple weeks before
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It's also good if you have supporting hardware but not all the features are enabled in BIOS. Either you need an OEM firmware update or go in and change some settings to clear the warning. Otherwise, you'd never really know if you've resolved the issues post-update.
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> imaginary issues ... like MS forcing you to update your system
You mean how MS forced [zdnet.com] Win 10 upgrades on Win 7 users?
Imaginary my ass.
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From your link:
Back then, Microsoft was aggressively pushing Windows 10 as a free upgrade, auto-updating Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 machines if Automatic Updates were turned on.
Wow, a user had his computer set to install any update MS pushed down the wire, then got upset because he wasn't "warned" or asked to opt-in for the update. The guy effectively had a "Kick Me" sign on his back that he knew was there, then got upset when he got kicked. Opting out would have been easy:
- Mark the network connection metered (and MS wont download updates), or
- Turn off Automatic Updates
MS Victims are usually victims of their own ignorance and
Lay off the Kool-Aid (Score:2)
I'm all for ditching some legacy stuff but this is ridiculous and you need to stop excusing it.
Windows users have Stockholm Syndrome.
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MS offers TWO desktop operating systems, must every system support every offered OS immediately upon release of the new software?
The systems MS and MSI sold at Windows 11 release were perfectly adequate for Win 10, and would be for 3+ years while Win 10 was still supported by MS.
When Win 11 was "released" on October, 21, 2021 and was well after it was "announced" on June 24th, 2021 - are you certain you are talking about when Windows 11 shipped (October 21st)?
Windows 10 has end of support scheduled for Octo
It just gets better and better doesn't it? (Score:4, Insightful)
Meanwhile all you fools who consciously opted for this nonsense are racking up a shitload of regrets aren't you?
So what's this all about now anyway? Is Microsoft getting kickbacks from PC manufacturers for goading people into upgrading perfectly usable hardware with some fake-ass message on the screen claiming it's not adequate? LOL.
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Meanwhile all you fools who consciously opted for this nonsense are racking up a shitload of regrets aren't you?
Why would I have regrets? Precisely zero of this nonsense affects me. I don't see adverts since that's turned them off, I didn't shoehorn Windows 11 onto an unsupported system. What's to regret? That my system works just fine? Well fuck me, how horrible.
So what's this all about now anyway?
What happened was that in 2020 a guy by the name of Rick Schumann fell into a coma and somehow missed the countless stories about windows 11 requirements, the discussions on what they are for, and the features of the OS which refuse to work when they aren't
Re: It just gets better and better doesn't it? (Score:3)
There's at least one specific (yet important) thing Linux just can't seem to get right... HiDPI support in multi-monitor-mixed-resolution setups.
Example: 3840x2560 main monitor, flanked by a pair of 1920x1080 monitors. Win10 needs a bit of tweaking, but eventually you can get it to mostly do the right thing... using high-DPI fonts & window gadgets on the big monitor, smaller fonts & lower-res (but natively-rendered) window gadgets on the flanking lower-res monitors... so everything ends up being app
To what end? (Score:2, Troll)
Let's have a practical discussion instead of the usual nuts with their superiority complex announcing the world that they run Linux and therefore we should worship their brilliance. What is the end goal here? What does MS hope to achieve with this?
At this point anyone who runs Windows 11 on unsupported hardware would have shoehorned it on. They would have been made aware of the support during setup, they would have had to manually force the install (since they are blocked from an update), and all for what?
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The obvious answer to me is that it's targeting dodgy shops installing W11 on end of line W10 systems they had lying around (or bought up cheap) then selling it to people as a W11 system.
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No, it is one more attempt for MS to appropriate decisions about your hardware.
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Finally! (Score:2)
This is great! (Score:2)
Palladium (Score:3)
TPM is the nail in the coffin in the war on general purpose computing. Wake up sheeple.
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TPM is the nail in the coffin in the war on general purpose computing. Wake up sheeple.
Your talking point from 2009 is tired and boring. And just like the article from 2002 you link to, nothing every happens. GPL didn't die, Palladium didn't kill it. Take your conspiracy to the Daily Mail where readers care about that kind of crap.
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Hardware support is very limited (Score:2)
Won't Really Change Anything (Score:2)
Their not so subtle nags, reviewed by psycho manipulators, are meant to drive new sales for PC makers.
M$ can pretty much do what ever they want with Windows for 2 major reasons.
1. PC manufactures still install Windows by default.
2. Corporations will not mandate truly open and interoperable file and messaging standards to foster competitive software to Excel, Outlook and Word on the OS of your choice.
They will allow enterprise and school licenses out of ad and tracking "features".
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Wow that takes me back. Hard to believe how long ago that was.
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Right, Linux should stop development - Ubuntu is nuts with this six month release cycle and two year release cycle for LTS versions, just create the OS and stop already.
MS has two, simultaneous, fully-supported, desktop OSes at the moment and for the foreseeable future - a stated 2-3 year overlap - releasing updates and new features twice a year isn't really an unprecedented pace (see Ubuntu).
Win 10 has 20H2, 21H1, 21H2, and soon, 22H1 versions compared to Ubuntu with 20.04, 20.10, 21.04, 21.10, and soon 22
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If Windoze 11 works on the "Unsupported" hardware, why bother with the warning?
Because future updates will rely on TPM hardware missing on some systems, leading to compromised security and incomplete support in the future. Are you advocating for MS to say nothing, add TPM requiring software in the future (to make their OS more secure) and just abandon millions of users who were running Win 11 on what is now unsupported software? Somehow you ding MS for being transparent and telling users what to expect?
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So is Microsoft's plan to downgrade security on the "unsupported" hardware, or leave it the way it is?
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Upgrade!
Why? It works fine..
If it works fine for you then don't upgrade (if the software is no longer supported with security updates then not being secure is on you).
Toss your existing hardware in a dumpster and buy a new computer because what the world needs most is more e-waste.
Why? It works fine..
Again if it is working for you then continue to use it. No one is forcing you to throw out working hardware.
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You have to opt-in for the upgrade.
The upgrade is free.
The preceeding OS (Win 10) is fully-supported until October, 2025.
What is the problem? What software *requires* Win 11 to force you to upgrade?
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And considering the processor chip shortage right now, it make sense for computer owners to use the current hardware till the shortage is resolved!
Considering the state of Windows 11, it makes sense to wait until around October of 2025 to bother with the new OS.
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Windows is already licensed on every computer bought from any store. The only people who would ever see this are those who either built their own system, or went to a shop and had one built. Most people these days don't get their computers that way, because the preconfigured models at the store already have everything most people want.