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Nvidia Won't Make You Sign Into Steam or Epic To Try Its Free New Cloud Gaming Demos (theverge.com) 33

An anonymous reader shares a report: Cloud gaming isn't for everyone, but it's getting easier to tell if it's for you because Nvidia and Google are now letting you try their virtual gaming PCs for free. Following Google's recent announcement that any Stadia developer will be able to offer an instantly accessible free trial of their game without needing to log into a Google account, Nvidia's GeForce Now is now pushing reduced-friction demos as well -- starting with Chorus, Ghostrunner, Inscryption, Diplomacy Is Not an Option and The Riftbreaker: Prologue. Typically, you'd need to log into an Nvidia account, then log in again to a Steam, Epic Games, or Ubisoft account to play one of these demos on GeForce Now, and you'd have to search for them as well. Now, the Nvidia account is all you'll need. Demos will automatically appear in a new "Instant Play Free Demos" row and won't require the second login.
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Nvidia Won't Make You Sign Into Steam or Epic To Try Its Free New Cloud Gaming Demos

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  • by kunwon1 ( 795332 ) <dave.j.moore@gmail.com> on Thursday April 07, 2022 @12:20PM (#62425924) Homepage
    Honestly, this would be far easier to use if it required just a Steam account. The fact that they're requiring an nvidia account, which most people won't have, is a higher barrier to entry
    Just about everyone interested in PC gaming already has a Steam account
    • by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 ) on Thursday April 07, 2022 @12:34PM (#62425966)

      nvidia geforce experience

      • Thats specifically why I don't touch geforce experience. Why do I need to give them my information to get driver updates? for the other features? maybe if I were a streamer wannabe.
        • by blahplusplus ( 757119 ) on Thursday April 07, 2022 @02:08PM (#62426342)

          Thats specifically why I don't touch geforce experience. Why do I need to give them my information to get driver updates? for the other features? maybe if I were a streamer wannabe.

          Uhh, you already bought into client server software with mmos/steam/windows 10, so why wouldn't nvidia get in on the action of violating your privacy, have you read the terms of service of windows 10? You no longer own your PC and they are turning it into locked down device,

          • Not the GP, but...

            mmos

            You're equating a real-time multiplayer service to a driver download?

            steam

            You're equating a storefront for game purchase and management, multiplayer lobby, and chat functionality, to a driver download?

            windows 10

            You're equating an operating system which still allows for local-only accounts to a driver download?

            so why wouldn't nvidia get in on the action of violating your privacy

            Because they sell hardware?

            have you read the terms of service of windows 10? You no longer own your PC and they are turning it into locked down device,

            So, your argument is that Microsoft is trying to emulate Apple and Google way more than they should, and since that's technically-permissible, calling out Nvidia on the pr

            • You're equating a real-time multiplayer service to a driver download?

              Ever piece of software from your driver to your games and OS can be split into two exe's and run over a network, it's called the mainframe model of computing. You don't seem to get you can have multiplayer without giving up ownership, you clearly don't understand basic facts about PC's.

              Limiltless multiplayer does not require magic servers, user login accounts, or subscriptions, so if you ever touched "MMO" anything you were lied to by the game industry has always wanted to kill you getting files for your g

              • Vanilla Q2 supported up to only 32 players. Quake orginally 4, later 8, then 16, with Quakeworld IIRC 32. But neither one had any persistent world features, so neither one was an MMO, even if you consider 32 players to be massive (nobody does.)

                • Vanilla Q2 supported up to only 32 players. Quake orginally 4, later 8, then 16, with Quakeworld IIRC 32. But neither one had any persistent world features, so neither one was an MMO, even if you consider 32 players to be massive (nobody does.)

                  No sorry asshole, this myth you idiots believe was always nonsense, the entire industry wanted to kill piracy and to do that they had to get you to believe there was a magic computer program that requires theit computers in their offices, "MMO" was a marketing moniker so they could back end and steal RPG's they had in development, you can convert very "MMO" back into it's regular PC RPG counterpart.

                  John carmack on Quake 2's limitless multiplayer:

                  https://youtu.be/TfeSMaztDVc?t... [youtu.be]

                  So once you have any PC game

                  • Nobody who says "You don't grasp" three times in the same comment should be listened to. I saw that shit and decided not to read anything else. I love skimming.

                    Your whole rant is fucking stupid because MMOs didn't replace everything else.

                    • Nobody who says "You don't grasp" three times in the same comment should be listened to I saw that shit and decided not to read anything else.

                      Yeah and this proves that you are an uneducated moron, I provided all the scientific evidence that mmo's killed local app PC games but that might be too much to wrap your head around, all the big budget games (GTA, battlfield, the crew, etc).

                      Because you believe there is such a thing as an "MMO", so we can just say "incomplete PC game" instead.

                      Every "F2P" or "Service" or always online drm based game is the exact same thing as an "MMO" you idiot. Because these are just marketing monikers for client-s

                    • by kunwon1 ( 795332 )
                      Wow, you're a fucking idiot
                    • Wow, you're a fucking idiot

                      Nothing idiotic about it, why would I pay attention to someone who steals software from themselves and doesn't address the actual argument idiot?

                      I gave you the post mortem talk from ultima online "MMO" developers, that proved that they killed PC games as local applicaitons:

                      https://youtu.be/lnnsDi7Sxq0?t... [youtu.be]

                      AKA right after UO's release, every rpg that was under development was looked at by the game industry to see if it would make sense to convert it to a client-server app, you do know how dumb it is to have

                    • by kunwon1 ( 795332 )
                      You're disconnected from reality. I, and many other gamers, regularly play PC games as local applications. I would go so far as to say most PC gaming is local, and not played over a network.
                      Hence, you're a fucking idiot
                    • You're disconnected from reality. I, and many other gamers, regularly play PC games as local applications.

                      Tell me again why does modern multiplayer not embedded in the exe like it was in the 90's oh capitan? Oh that's right they learned it from you dumb mmo/steam/uplay always online drm loving morons. You don't seem to grasp what we've lost over the last 23+ years with the rise of drm/client server back ending the shit out of every game violating the personal privacy of every person on the planet.

                      When you use steam/f2p/mmo/windows 10, every you do and say is recorded and sent to these companies (microsoft, et

                    • by kunwon1 ( 795332 )
                      Congratulations, you've completely ignored the facts that I presented and moved the goalposts. You're even more of a fucking idiot than I originally suspected.
                    • Congratulations, you've completely ignored the facts that I presented and moved the goalposts. You're even more of a fucking idiot than I originally suspected.

                      You didn't present any facts, you missed out on we lost dedicated servers and level editors in the AAA gaming space idiot, the space that any traditional gamer cared most about. You're missing the overall trend here buddy

                      Gran turismo 7 offline??

                      https://www.gamespot.com/artic... [gamespot.com]

                      AKA the trend has been to all the big budget games to become infected with client-server malware allowing your games to be remotely disabled, if you think this trend is going to stop I got news for ya.

                      You clearly are deluded about th

                    • by kunwon1 ( 795332 )
                      Okay buddy, continue living in your own little world where you can only play games online. No more replies from me. Adios :D
                    • Okay buddy, continue living in your own little world where you can only play games online. No more replies from me. Adios :D

                      You added nothing to the conversation and you are clearly a moron, you don't get that we're paying money here and because morons like you exist, means we're getting broken software applications, literally fraud, inside modern games.

            • So, your argument is that Microsoft is trying to emulate Apple and Google way more than they should, and since that's technically-permissible, calling out Nvidia on the practice has no merit?

              You don't seem you've already lost the battle, the battle was won and lost beteen 1997 and 2003 (before steam launched). Go look at the games list of releases between 1992-2004, ever single PC game game with network multiplayer built into the game. They started taking that away when ultima online was a success (the PC RPG with stolen working code). That's all an "MMO" is, I'm sorry to tell you there's nothing magic about software, a computer is just a giant ticker tape that you feed blocks of binary numb

              • by waspleg ( 316038 )

                I stopped getting mod points months ago but if I had some you'd get them up voted. Basically all true.

                These stories about Win 11 are another step towards you own nothing and buy your glorified phone and pay us a monthly fee for the privilege of 0 say over anything at all. Since whole generations have been brought up using shit phones as their primary devices, this has been made extremely easy for these cunts, and what a lot of people expect anyway.

                Google Everything is like this already too, and that's wha

            • You're equating a real-time multiplayer service to a driver download?

              You clearly know nothing of the industry. Here's some docs for you they want client-server cloud everything. That was the plain stan, they want everyone to not own their software, aka the internet allows companies to enslave and control your PC remotely via client-server model of programming. They want to kill local file access to prevent piracy, and they do that by basically convincing you that client-server software is a "legit service" and not the fucking scam that it is, aka you're literally buying

          • Don't forget, Nvidia also sends a list of all your programs home. Telemetry! That you can't even opt out of.
    • Just about everyone interested in PC gaming already has a Steam account

      Well forcing steam inside the most popular game on the planet at the time (half-life/cs) of course people would have steam, everyone was forced to take it up the ass because valve forced it on everyone.

    • Honestly, this would be far easier to use if it required just a Steam account. The fact that they're requiring an nvidia account, which most people won't have, is a higher barrier to entry Just about everyone interested in PC gaming already has a Steam account

      Because if you have an Nvidia GPU, you have to have an Nvidia account to use their stupid GeForce Experience application that will check for, download, and install driver updates.

      • You *have* to? What prevent you from downloading drivers yourself? For example Pacman on Arch will update nVidia's drivers for you without any nVidia account.
        • I refuse to give up my details to a company that has no need of it other than marketing. I don't use geforce experience, and I have no problem downloaded drivers.
        • You *have* to? What prevent you from downloading drivers yourself? For example Pacman on Arch will update nVidia's drivers for you without any nVidia account.

          Re-read what I wrote. I didn't say you had to use GeForce experience to download drivers. I said you had to log in if you use GeForce experience to download drivers. I believe in Windows you can use Chocolatey to just get the drivers as well.

          • It said "if you have an Nvidia GPU, you have to have an Nvidia account to use their stupid GeForce Experience application that will check for, download, and install driver updates". You probably should have written "IF YOU WANT to use" instead of "to use", then? The way it's phrased now is very confusing to me.
            • Regardless you can just go to their website and download drivers still, though what he wrote was technically correct in that if you want to use their application, you have to have their account. This is a relatively recent change, though it was a while ago now for most of its existence you didn't need an account to use it to keep your drivers updated.

    • Yeah, no joke, considering the NVIDIA GFE login is 300% more infuriating than both steam and epic combined, this is a non-event.
  • Situation: There are now 15 competing gaming programs installed on your PC.

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