Mark Zuckerberg Says Waking Up Every Day as CEO of Meta is Like Getting Punched in the Stomach (wsj.com) 216
Mark Zuckerberg says waking up every day as chief executive of Meta is like getting punched in the stomach. From a report: "You wake up in the morning, look at my phone, you get like a million messages, right, of stuff that come in. It's usually not good," Mr. Zuckerberg told Joe Rogan in an episode on his show that aired Thursday. "It's almost like every day you wake up and you're, like, punched in the stomach," Mr. Zuckerberg said. "Now I need to, like, go reset myself and be able to kind of be productive and not be stressed about this." After processing the information he's given, he said he spends an hour or two doing physical activity such as surfing or mixed martial arts.
Cry me a river... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Also, the twat could just switch off his bloody phone!
Then he wouldn't be bombarded with endless meaningless crap from his own platform.
Prize twat.
Re: Cry me a river... (Score:5, Insightful)
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At this point the best thing he could do is shut it all down.
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...some value other than greed.
Why should you flop so badly?
There is value in his product. Actually, it turned to be quite funny information exchange and socialization tool. For all the imperfections, it is usable.
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> Been commenting here since 1999, you?
Is this the new version of "I have a lower UID"? It lacks bite.
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Get off my lawn, whippersnappers!
Re: Cry me a river... (Score:5, Funny)
Re: Cry me a river... (Score:5, Funny)
Did someone say low UID?
Re: Cry me a river... (Score:5, Funny)
Do you guys have scripts running on some server that simply scrap /. for mentions of low UIDs to bring you out of the woodworks?
If so I tip my hat to you. That's trolling the long game. :-)
Since 1999?? (Score:2)
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I wanted to comment, but I didn't want to do so without listening to it. I listened to nearly 15 minutes. I'm biased against both of them but I thought Zuckerberg did okay at defending his position. I'd never heard Rogan speak more than a sound bite, but what struck me about him was his very calm reasonable tone which makes him sound convincing but then he starts making wild conclusions.
That probably really was Hunter's laptop, but beyond that how much of the story is true? There were a lot of lies about
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If he weren't such a sanctimonious asshole, he wouldn't have that problem What he's done to Kauai and his "compound" is a parallel to Trump's Mar a Lago. That's just the beginning.
Asperger's? (Score:2, Troll)
While I find it really hard to feel sorry for him, he is human, has human feelings, and probably pours most his energy and thoughts into work, meaning work concerns consume him.
And he likely has Asperger's like many of us, thus often says what he thinks without understanding how it sounds to others. I can relate to a degree.
Re:Asperger's? (Score:5, Insightful)
he is human, has human feelings
[citation needed]
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jeer sg, sneer sg, taunt sg
Re: Asperger's? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: Asperger's? (Score:3)
Are they mutually exclusive?
Re:Cry me a river... (Score:5, Insightful)
I mean the fact that he has the leisure to actually go surfing or martial arts for 1-2 hours a day before work (note, 1-2 hours of ACTIVITY really means 3-4 hours of downtime since there is prep, transportation to/from and wrapup time). So while everyone else is toiling away (keeping the crap that is Meta Facebook going), he's crying in his gold covered corn flakes basically saying "why doesn't anyone like me?!?!?!"
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note, 1-2 hours of ACTIVITY really means 3-4 hours of downtime since there is prep, transportation to/from and wrapup time
Huh? No it doesn't. An activity is an activity. Grab a bag and go out the door, the activity may be 5min away. I used to go surface before work. That 1hour activity took 1 hours as the activity itself encompassed what was related to the actual activity, and since I did it literally on the way to work there was zero travel time involved.
These days I'm more about playing squash on the way home. Again, there is 10min on non-activity related time added there. 3-4min from the highway as a detour, and 2-4min to g
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Eh?
TFS specifically mentions surfing and he lives in Palo Alto. Even if he lives on the west side of town and gets up at the buttcrack of dawn* and hits the road before traffic goes to crap; that's at *least* a 45 minute drive to get to the nearest decent surf break. It's then another hour back to Facebook in Menlo Park. And, again, that's an hour minimum, in ideal traffic that almost never happens during daylight hours. That puts him very nearly at the GP's 2-hour mark just from the minimum driving tim
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Everybody is a victim in LaLaLand.
I'll take a punch for a million bucks a day.
Or I'd man up and fight back or walk away.
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Gee, Officer Zuckerberg... Zuck you!
Re: Cry me a river... (Score:5, Informative)
No. Everyone accepts it because he's an absolutely despicable being. (And not in the minions way either)
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He didn't. That's what you did.
One thing is clear (Score:5, Funny)
Someone needs to actually punch Zukerberg in the stomach so that he doesn't make idiotic comparisons like this.
Re:One thing is clear (Score:5, Funny)
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A remote-controlled fist? That's the Next Big Web Site: ePunchMoguls.com.
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Someone needs to actually punch Zukerberg in the stomach so that he doesn't make idiotic comparisons like this.
And I'm sure there are plenty of people willing to let him sleep late then literally punch him later in the day. He could sell tickets and have a daily raffle ...
Re: One thing is clear (Score:2)
He trains in MMA, he knows what being punched in the stomach is like.
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But the poor billionaire who made his fortune by selling out literally billions of people... won't you think of the poor billionaire's feelings when he looks at his phone and sees all the messages?
My suggestion for Zuck: if you can't handle all the stress of being towards the top of the list of global-scale cunt bags, maybe don't be a cunt bag.
Re:One thing is clear (Score:5, Informative)
Someone needs to actually punch Zukerberg in the stomach so that he doesn't make idiotic comparisons like this.
I think getting punched in the stomach probably might not be as bad.
Yishan Wong, former CEO of Reddit, posted a long Twitter thread when Musk announced he was buying Twitter, basically arguing that running a big social media site is mentally harmful, and expressing concern that if Musk bought Twitter, it would destroy him and keep him from doing all of the really beneficial stuff that he does (SpaceX, Tesla). Yishan thought that the only person who might actually be able to run such a site for a long period of time without being messed up by it is Jack Dorsey, because Jack has an incredible focus on well-being and mental stability.
According to Yishan, what makes it so difficult is that you can never make a correct decision around moderation. Every decision is incredibly important because it affects huge numbers of people, but every decision will not only be criticized by large numbers of people (a problem for anyone in a prominent position), but it will also be demonstrably wrong, and harmful, in ways both known and unknown. Since you can never make a "good" decision, you're perpetually trying to find the least-bad decision, without any way to know what that actually is -- but knowing that the universe will point out the ways it's wrong, and many, many people will be lined up to rub your nose in the error.
After reading Yishan's thread, I don't think I'd wish Zuck's job on my worst enemy.
Re: One thing is clear (Score:2)
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“An institution is the lengthened shadow of one man (because corporations are people, yo)".
There was social media, chat rooms, BBS and the like prior to Twitter, and they had to feel their way through policy too.
Difference being they mostly had clearly established guidelines (whether they followed them is a different matter), or if they were trying to create a certain je ne sais quoi, they'd bring out the banhammer and you'd learn your manifesto for pigeon rights wasn't welcome there.
IF there is a pro
Totally doesn't apply here (Score:2)
As was posted earlier, Zuck is just reaping, and only a little of, what he sowed.
Re: One thing is clear (Score:3, Insightful)
It's not that hard. You set up transparent processes, with genuine channels of review and appeal. You do it all in public view. You create a professional team of adjudicators that themselves are held to account by open review. You establish a system of rules and precedent.
Re:One thing is clear (Score:5, Funny)
Y'all are aiming too high. We're not making progress until he reports that he feels like he's getting kicked in the nuts.
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Someone needs to actually punch Zukerberg in the stomach so that he doesn't make idiotic comparisons like this.
I hope they steal his lunch money too
Re: One thing is clear (Score:3, Informative)
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Anybody who uses "literally" to mean "figuratively" (ironically) should probably be spanked soundly and sent to bed without any supper. What's next, using "red" to mean "green" (ironically) or "strong" to mean "weak" (ironically)?
Grouchy because my 20-something kids keep telling me the same thing and I although I understand abstractly that language morphs over time I find it frustrating to observe it happen in certain ways in my lifetime.
Next up, someone should explain how "by accident" has somehow chan
Re: One thing is clear (Score:2)
Dickens was a hack.
reap what you sow (Score:5, Insightful)
Enjoy your dog food, Mark. You made it for yourself and you could make it better but instead you focus on cognitive dissonance.
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Enjoy your dog food, Mark. You made it for yourself and you could make it better but instead you focus on cognitive dissonance.
I'm not sure he could have made it better. I think social media is inherently full of intractable problems.
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Wrong, his staff made the tools to make it better and Zucker deliberately stopped them because Facebook being a cesspit attracted more eyeballs for longer = more money.
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Only if it's run by shareholders. The race to the bottom is where the profits are.
Re:reap what you sow (Score:4, Insightful)
They could include an option to only see things your friends post, instead of random memes from the internet. The newsfeed they created is aimed towards the wrong metrics.
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I've heard that dog food tastes better if you douse it with Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ sauce.
He could literally step down at any time (Score:5, Insightful)
If he didn't enjoy it, he could step down at any time and still have more money than he could ever spend.
Re:He could literally step down at any time (Score:4, Insightful)
Well, he never said he didn't enjoy it...
Some people might like a daily gut punch, who are we to kink shame?
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If he didn't enjoy it, he could step down at any time and still have more money than he could ever spend.
To me, this is the billion-dollar question. Faced with such a horrible job (and I fully believe it is horrible and don't believe that it can be made significantly less horrible), why do it? Apparently there must be something about it that he likes.
I feel sorry for him, so I will help (Score:2)
Poor Mark. I see you need help, and so will do the right thing.
Let's switch jobs for a year.
So he is a masochist? (Score:3, Insightful)
Could have that "punch to the stomach" cheaper and easier. There are ladies that specialize in delivering this type of thing. Oh, he is not a masochist? Well, then he is just stupid. Which, given the type of "leadership" he provides makes sense.
Empiric data required (Score:3)
I volunteer to test whether the feeling really is the same.
Manage your notifications Mark (Score:2)
Does Mark get work notifications on his phone? That is a no-no! Disconnect, dude! Only check that crap when you get to your (home) office (which is probably bigger than my entire house).
Mark is Richard Cory (Score:2)
A couple conclusions (Score:2)
A couple potential conclusions can be made here.
a) he is weak and can't take a punch.
b) he is easily stressed out.
c) the things he gets notifications for are outside the expected scope of business and rightfully stress him out
d) his trainer is really hard on him
e) he needs to adjust his business priorities and figure out why he's getting so many stressful notifications.
f) I would love to spar with him.
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g) stop exercising and get back to work Mark.
Hope his trainer punches the smug twat (Score:2)
Just retire (Score:2)
Just be remembered for Facebook and amihotornot, as opposed to a dystopic VR system with Nintendo 64 graphics, and retire with your reputation as intact as it will ever be.
It's not a real boy (Score:2)
So his stomach is wood as well.
Easy to solve (Score:2)
...stop waking up
Simple solution (Score:4, Insightful)
Simple solution: stop being Meta's CEO.
Of course, many workers get punched in the stomach and have no time to exercise after that, so choose your new job carefully. Retirement is a good option.
So sad! (Score:3)
Punch to the stomach? (Score:2)
Punch to the stomach? Zuckerberg got what he wished...now, wants to whine? I'd say take some Tums, roll up your sleeves. Or more simply resign, and do something less...stressful. Me without my hankie...oh there it is...
JoshK.
Simple Solution (Score:2)
Sell all your stock, go buy a private island or something, and fuck off.
My methods almost worked (Score:2)
I was trying to make it feel like a kick in the nuts, but this seems to be at least in the ballpark.
You could always quit, Mark. (Score:2)
You'd be just fine.
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Re: He also admitted... (Score:2)
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Prove this. What evidence? Which laws? What actions make this espionage?
Re: He also admitted... (Score:4, Informative)
Re: He also admitted... (Score:5, Informative)
Using big words doesn't mean you're smart.
Treason ONLY applies in time of war. It's when you give aid or comfort in any fashion to the enemy. To wit [cornell.edu]:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
Second, the FBI did not tell Facebook to remove any information. What they said was there was a lot of Russian disinformation in the 2016 election and they were continuing to monitor such disinformation. What was posted appeard to fall into that category. They never explicitly said to do anything. It was Zuck's call to make.
Are we done now with this bullshit? Apparently a laptop is more important than a Russian agent taking the most classified information this country has to an insecure location where nearly anyone could have looked at it [slate.com]. It should also be noted the son-in-law of this Russian agent received $2 billion from a country who murdered a U.S. citizen (not to mention aiding in the deaths of 3,000 others a few years back) not long after this information was taken from said secure location.
Finally, some of this information is so classified that disclosing it could lead to the deaths of American agents who gather this information.
But apparently that's no big deal.
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Mate, not worth it, this saloomy git is a prize twat.
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I have posted anonymously many 100's, if not 1000's of times. Specially in the early days, it's what made /. such a great place originally.
Mar-a-Lago (Score:2, Interesting)
So Trump was keeping classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. Wonder if that is connected to the Chinese national who was arrested there and had four cell phones, a laptop, extra hard drive, and a flash drive with malware an in her possession? https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/19... [cnn.com]
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That was back when he was still in office. And the person was arrested, i.e. Trump clearly didn't want that person there. If it had been an attempt to export the information to a foreign country, the person wouldn't have been arrested.
Then again, it makes for a good cover story if the information does get exported to another country. They can just say, "This time, we didn't catch them."
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Treason ONLY applies in time of war.
We're always at war. We just stopped declaring them.
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The issue is that he acted as an agent of the government. He censored something extremely important (at their behest) that the voting public needed to hear about.
Think about it... the government decided what you were entitled to hear.
When government and business collude that's fascism. To interfere with the public for political gain/control that is fascism.
This makes Zuckerberg's action the action of the government.
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Not if the GOV is effectively controlling the censorship via coercion or fraud .... think Little Brother vs Big Brother.
Re: He also admitted... (Score:4, Informative)
How is it treasonous to say "this horseshit story doesn't pass the sniff test. I'm burying it on my platform"?
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It wasn't horse shit.
The government had the laptop drive and others for some time before the election. They still have those drives. We know the information on them is not Russian disinformation. They also had other evidence and other individuals willing to provide testimony about the validity of the information on the drive -- before the election.
Bear in mind that most emails have a recipient so you can verify the information by simply checking with the recipient. Also, modern email systems have things su
Re: He also admitted... (Score:2)
And the man has the First Amendment on his side, to publish what he wants on his platform, and to not publish what he does not - the same First Amendment that lets Trump, Murdoch and the rest of the neo-fascists spew their lies on their platforms.
I still don't see how anyone can imagine treason enters into it. Still have seen no evidence of such.
Re: He also admitted... (Score:4, Informative)
Thereâ(TM)s still no evidence for the laptop aside from Giulianiâ(TM)s say-so. Itâ(TM)s a transparent scam and you fell for it.
Re: He also admitted... (Score:2)
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I think Musk is the world's richest troll, but I'm not sure this was ever about him buying it and if he ever does I don't expect he'll be any more fair. But my life doesn't revolve around twitter.
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This is misinformation.
This anonymous coward is claiming all right leaning citizens are unbalanced and that all the left are balanced. Since the right in this case was true and accurate and the left were the ones that were interfering, there is no way this anonymous coward's allegation can be true...and he knows it...which makes his claim even disinformation.
Re:He also admitted... (Score:5, Informative)
Censoring information to influence a Presidential election isn't treasonous?
Nope. Seditious perhaps, but per the Constitution, not treasonous. At the time the country was founded, the English were using "treason" the way we now use "terrorism", as a catch all label to make anything the Crown didn't like sound more terrible and more punishable. The founding fathers were reacting against this usage when they very narrowly defined treason as actively waging war against the US or aiding an enemy who is actively at war with the US.
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Censoring information to influence a Presidential election isn't treasonous? What planet do YOU live on? This is infinitely worse than Russia, Russia, Russia as it came from within the government along with their tech allies.
Treason is very clearly defined in the constitution. I mean they couldn't even get a treason conviction for the Rosenbergs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Re:He also admitted... (Score:5, Interesting)
Censoring information to influence a Presidential election isn't treasonous? What planet do YOU live on? This is infinitely worse than Russia, Russia, Russia as it came from within the government along with their tech allies.
Russia is at least arguably an enemy nation. Therefore, doing things that benefit Russia could at least be considered treason if we were in a state of war with Russia, and at least arguably treasonous, albeit not rising to the level of treason as declared in the constitution, given the current state of cold war between Russia and the U.S.
The Democratic Party, by contrast, is not an enemy nation. Therefore, doing things that benefit the Democratic Party cannot be considered treason, no matter how much Republican snowflake congresspeople might hold their noses and scream that it is so.
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It's hilarious that you seem to think you're the only one who's familiar with "the story of Hunter Biden's laptop" -- because it was "censored" -- but at the same time you don't explain what "the story" is, because you know everybody has heard about it, and all the whining the MAGA CHUDs do about it. And that nobody cares, because there is no "story."
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I disagree with everything you said. The statement you made about no one caring is completely false. At least half the population cares, maybe more. Because the house and senate are controlled by the interested party (dems) there has been no action taken. Now we are learning from whistleblowers that the FBI was forcing agents to stand down on the investigations of Hunter's laptop. This reveals a great deal of information that proves Hunter and Joe and others in his family should be held to account with a
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Republican polling right after the election said that out of the very few people who didn't know about it - and it was a very small percentage - most would not have changed their votes and of those who would have most would not have changed a Biden vote to a trump vote, although a very small percentage did say they would have.
It wasn't nearly enough to change the result.
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I live on Earth, what galaxy do you hail from?
Who gets to decide what stories are worthy of reporting? The government? Personally, I think I should be able to dictate the news everyone consumes. You will only hear about things I care about and you'll only hear versions of those stories that fit my narrative. I tried that once, but nobody wanted to subscribe to my newsletter. Someone suggested I at least try to appear unbiased. The nerve!
Speech may be free, but that doesn't mean anyone is going to li
Re:He also admitted... (Score:5, Funny)
Hunter Biden's laptop you're my only hope!
Re: He also admitted... (Score:2)
Not on his part. Now, on the part of the FBI who had it since Dec 2019 and thus knew damn fucking well that it was in no way Russian disinformation, yes, yes it was.
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The program/utility called "dd"
is a staple of Linux (and I believe OSX) that allows for copying hard drives to a file. That file can then be mounted on another computer as if it were an actual hard drive. You can view the whole of the drive and all the contents of every file.
I do this quite often at my shop. It is not necessary to use OSX to image an APFS or other apple drive format.
There are full distros that are geared to recovery, and forensics, that have this tool and others like it. I believe virtual
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