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Microsoft Rolls Out Windows 11 2022 Update (windows.com) 95

Microsoft on Tuesday said it's starting to release the first major update to Windows 11, the current version of its PC operating system. The company said the update is aimed at making PCs easier and safer to use and improve productivity. Some excerpts detailing new features from Windows blog: Windows 11 brought a sense of ease to the PC, with an intuitive design people love. We're building on that foundation with new features to ensure the content and information you need is always at your fingertips, including updates to the Start menu, faster and more accurate search, Quick Settings, improved local and current events coverage in your Widgets board, and the No. 1 ask from you, tabs in File Explorer. All of this helps Windows anticipate your needs and save you time. [...] The PC has always been where people come to get things done -- especially when it comes to tackling complex tasks. With enhancements to Snap layouts, the new Focus feature, and performance and battery optimizations, the new Windows 11 2022 update will help you be your most productive yet. Snap layouts on Windows 11 have been a game changer for multitasking, helping people optimize their view when they need to have multiple apps or documents in front of them at the same time. With the new update, we're making Snap layouts more versatile with better touch navigation and the ability to snap multiple browser tabs in Microsoft Edge. We're introducing Focus sessions and Do Not Disturb to help you minimize distractions that pull you away from the task at hand.

[...] We also want to continue to make Windows the best place to play games. This update will deliver performance optimizations to improve latency and unlock features like Auto HDR and Variable Refresh Rate on windowed games. And with Game Pass built right into Windows 11 through the Xbox app, players can access hundreds of high-quality PC games. Having the right content fuels a great PC experience. A year ago, we redesigned the Microsoft Store on Windows to be more open and easier-to-use -- a one-stop shop for the apps, games and TV shows you love. Today, through our partnership with Amazon, we are expanding the Amazon Appstore Preview to international markets, bringing more than 20,000 Android apps and games to Windows 11 devices that meet the feature-specific hardware requirements. In addition to a growing catalog of apps and games, we are also excited to share that we are moving to the next stage of the Microsoft Store Ads pilot -- helping developers get content in front of the right customers. [...] Windows 11 provides layers of hardware and software integrated for powerful, out-of-the box protection from the moment you start your device -- and we're continuing to innovate. The new Microsoft Defender SmartScreen identifies when people are entering their Microsoft credentials into a malicious application or hacked website and alerts them.

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Microsoft Rolls Out Windows 11 2022 Update

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  • by DarkRookie2 ( 5551422 ) on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @01:06PM (#62898819)
    Then patch 10.
    11 is no easier to use than 10. It is harder since you have to relearn where they decided to move everything.
    11 is no safer to use than 10, if it isn't it is because Microsoft is a giant collection of distended assholes.
    11 is less productive than 10 since I have to find way to de-junk the bullshit they did to it.
    • I agree. I don't know what we get out of Windows 11. 10 was great. 11 was a headache to deploy.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @01:55PM (#62898993)
      Windows 11 is useless garbage. Nothing but a lot of pointless changes that don't make anything better and in most cases make things worse. Fortunately I have the LTSB version of Windows 10 Pro for Workstations which will be supported and updated till 2028. Maybe by then Microsoft will get their shit together and make Windows 11 usable. But I'm not going to hold my breath.

      Windows 11 brought a sense of ease to the PC, with an intuitive design people love.

      LOL. Nope. Nothing in that sentence is true.

      • by sconeu ( 64226 )

        Indeed.

        Windows 11 brought a sense of ease to the PC, with an intuitive design people love.

        Now comes the part where we throw our heads back and laugh [youtube.com]

      • Luckily you can fix it with Window Blinds, Start8/10/11/whatever, and 8GadgetPack. I was doing some work at Microsoft a few years ago and one of their technical guys walked past, then stopped and looked at my screen for awhile in puzzlement. After some time he asked "what is that, is it... Linux?". I had fun telling him it was Windows 8, or at least that some parts of Windows 8 were running somewhere a long, long way down where it couldn't get in the way. It's actually an OK OS kernel if you uninstall/s
      • I saw this and felt the need to chime in: windows 11 is much harder to use than windows 2000... I can't even set it up to work like windows 2000...

        I set my windows 10 to work like windows 2000 with open shell.

        The quick launch and taskbar are super easy to use.

        I had a mac, and worked for hours to get similar features on it... then they did a version bump downgrade.. and I couldn't use the mac... now Android and windows are copying the worst parts of Apple UI, and I am really irritated.

    • by torkus ( 1133985 )

      To be completely honest, they could have kept the Win7 UI and just made security improvements...but we all know MS wants to push advertising and other 'sticky' UI interactions that made Win10 a necessity.

      Fine.

      Win11 is absolute garbage. The number of inconvenient UI changes, for no pragmatic purpose is astounding. I have task manager pinned because they took away the quick right-click to launch it. MS should consider the not-insignificant amount of retraining needed for non-technical folks...and how anno

      • by Rhipf ( 525263 )

        Not that I agree that removing the right click access isn't annoying but does it really make it harder for non-technical folks?
        I would assume that when you talk about non-technical folks accessing the task manager you mean trying to explain to someone that doesn't use the task manager a lot how to get to the task manager. In the past you could tell them to right click on the task bar and then select task manager from the menu. The problem is that there is a not insignificant number of people that you will n

      • by Shemmie ( 909181 )

        Not defending - but if you right-click the start button, you get Task Manager as an option. Agreed, I still miss right-click taskbar.

    • 11 is less productive than 10 since I have to find way to de-junk the bullshit they did to it.

      I like this comment. It seems with every successive windows release people come up with new ways to claim it's been junked or has more bullshit, but since about Windows 8 and to some extent windows 7 the additional bullshit is there in previous releases as well.

      Windows 11 has it's worts, but if you have "productivity" issues due to "junk" then maybe a malware scan is in order since there's really no difference between Windows 10 and 11 in this regard.

      • Shut the fuck up Microsoft shill. Your entire output for the past 24 hours has been a rabid defense of Windows 11 with all the unreasoning zeal of a contract Microsoft employee.

        Windows 11 is a privacy-violating piece of shit with telemetry aimed at spying on your every move. Microsoft wants to sell their own product to the surveillance state and Windows 11 is their trojan horse aimed at doing exactly that.

      • get-appxpackage -allusers | remove-appxpackage is not a command I should need to remember nor something I seem to need to run every month since they seem to sneak bullshit in.
        Do get me started on the Start Menu. What I want from the Start Menu is a random collection of files and a small selection of app shortcuts that Microsoft has gracefully allowed me instead of ads. 10s still has issues, but it better than this mess.
    • by DrXym ( 126579 )
      I wouldn't say Windows 11 is especially hard or annoying to use with one exception.

      The new task bar and start menu is a step back over Windows 10 and it's clear Microsoft decided "minimum viable product" on that thing and shoved it out the door. For example, the start menu has a recommendation section eating a bunch of screen real estate. Even if you disable recommendations, the recommendations section is still there stinking up the UI. Above it, there are pinned apps that could use that extra space but t

  • can we call late 2022 / fall 2022 / sep 2022 / oct 2022 and not just 2022?

    • by EvilSS ( 557649 )
      MS is only pushing out one major feature update a year now for Windows 11. So no more 2209 or 22H2 like with Win10.
      • but this late in the year why not call windows 2023 like how the car manufacturers date stuff.

        • by EvilSS ( 557649 )
          Because it's not a car or a out of sync fiscal year? There is still an entire quarter left in 2022.
    • Well hopefully the Windows 11 2022 Update will fix all of the weird browser crashes I've been having since the Cumulative update for 8-2022 was installed; both Brave and Firefox has been crashing on the more challenging web sites

  • by shanen ( 462549 ) on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @01:09PM (#62898835) Homepage Journal

    Only one machine around here is Windows 11 eligible, but my wife won't give permission. I have yet to find a feature that will persuade her. Not that I expect much from Slashdot these years, but in the form of a question:

    Can you point at a single compelling feature of Windows 11 that justified the upgrade for you?

    I have seen too many lists of improvements. None that seemed "marketable", but I should note that she is NOT fond of change. But maybe the real problem is that I've become less fond of change myself? I can still (barely) remember when I was a young whippersnapper (who loved change) before I became an old whippersnapped (who can take change or leave it).

    • by BackwardPawn ( 1356049 ) on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @01:15PM (#62898853)

      Can you point at a single compelling feature of Windows 11 that justified the upgrade for you?

      No. I only upgraded because it was easier than reinstalling. There's nothing I've found that Windows 11 does better and plenty that it does worse. Its not worth downgrading, but if you're still on Windows 10, I recommend staying.

      • Thanks for the representative reaction. So it seems to come back to the threat of losing support to protect against the security flaws Microsoft always includes with every piece of software...

        Solution terms: What if enough people were willing to cover the costs of keeping Windows 10 supported? At least for the critical network security features. Just to throw some numbers out there, I bet there are at least 10 million people who want to keep using Windows 10. Times $10 seems to be enough loot to keep the th

        • It wouldn't matter.
          The bean counters and marketers won't let it.
          They know that Windows has been pretty much good enough since XP. The only way to get a seventh home is to fix a few things, revamp the UI using the worse metrics they can find, and bump the version number so they can sell it at $150 a pop.
        • Thanks for the representative reaction. So it seems to come back to the threat of losing support to protect against the security flaws Microsoft always includes with every piece of software...

          Android, Apple and Linux are no different in this regard. In fact no software is, either application or OS. It just simply isn't viable to support old software forever without seriously harming future development and progression especially as software gets ever more complicated and requires more resources to create.

          • by shanen ( 462549 )

            Yeah, I know I'm talking about a different funding model. Sacrilegious to suggest that cost recovery without massive profits could ever be sufficient.

            I think it's sad that accepting an honest profit is now a corporate death wish. But I think cancerous growth is a kind of death cult.

      • by jwhyche ( 6192 ) on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @01:42PM (#62898939) Homepage

        I agree. Windows 11 is nice but there really isn't nothing better on it than Windows 10. I recommend people upgrade if they want to, but otherwise don't worry about it.

        • Yeah. Good: better dark mode support. Like notepad. Cool. Bad: new context menus. Twice the clicks to get anything useful done, or you have to change your software to do the exact same thing as before, else they just end up in a hidden submenu. WTF.

          The widget panel where the start menu used to be is kind of nice. Except they've kind of poisoned it by making it open Edge instead of your browser of choice, which for most people is going to be anything but Edge. That's just MS being a dick to their cus

          • by jwhyche ( 6192 )

            The context menus would be a good option IF you could customize what appears where.

            • Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, but my post was getting a bit long, and I had to get back to work. What's funny is that this only solved the problem until software starts using the new APIs to put themselves on the primary context menu again, and then it'll be just as cluttered as before. The only thing they did was to force a reset on old software.

              For example, the maintainer of WinZip didn't have Windows 11 by the time I was looking to install it on my new machine, so hadn't implemented the small ch

          • . I know most people bitch about these things changing

            To be precise, we complain about change without making things better.

          • Except they've kind of poisoned it by making it open Edge instead of your browser of choice, which for most people is going to be anything but Edge.

            Talking of Edge, and I can't believe I'm saying this, as of their latest version I've started to prefer it over Chrome to the point I've done a clean install of 2022H2 and not installed Chrome. It's much faster, it has some really good features built in too. And I still can't believe I'm saying this. And as it syncs across to your Google Account too its easy to move back to Chrome as the main driver. Seriously thinking of installing it on my Macbook Pro. Fuck me, someone call an ambulance.

        • by Shemmie ( 909181 )

          I think the biggest feature, moving forwards, is that it'll be more 'complete' than Windows 10. I get the feeling they will leave the broken bits and rough edges, shrug their shoulders, and move on.

          Windows 10 was a beta of building more app-y, store-y 'goodness' onto Windows 8. If you want the (more) completed transition, Windows 11.

          • by jwhyche ( 6192 )

            I want to know what their plans are past 2025 for Win10. They have already damned any machine older than 3 years old, as of today, to the dumpster. That will be a lot of e-waste of perfectly good hardware. Since all the Windows 11 restrictions that prevents it from running on old hardware are purely artificial.

            I predict by that time we might see a lot of people converting to Linux rather than paying out to replace an otherwise perfectly good computer. This is not too far out of the realm of possibili

      • by DrXym ( 126579 )
        One compelling feature for me is WSLg - seamless X11/Wayland support for WSL - basically Linux graphical apps run straight on the desktop. I don't think there is any technical reason that Microsoft couldn't have implemented this in Windows 10, but getting it out of the box is convenient.
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    • Leave Windows 10 in place for your wife, if you want a quiet life.

      Hopefully, Microsoft will get the memo ... the same damn one they got after the disaster that was Windows 8 ... and restore some sanity.

      Windows 10 is good for another 3 years of support - and that will likely be extended - giving enough time for Microsoft to undo the damage they have yet again wrought.

      • by Zak3056 ( 69287 )

        Windows 10 is good for another 3 years of support - and that will likely be extended - giving enough time for Microsoft to undo the damage they have yet again wrought.

        I wouldn't take that bet. There are a metric shitload of Microsoft products that have end of life in 4Q25, and this is part of a concerted strategy that almost certainly ends up as an Oprahistic orgy of "you get a subscription, and you get a subscription, everyone gets a subscription!"

        They've been on this path for at least five years. I'd be shocked if they deviated from it.

    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      No. Listen to your wife. She is obviously smart. Windows 11 is a lemon. MS is incompetent enough and disdains their customers enough to regularly produce these.

    • The quick snapping feature is nice to have, but not worth the upgrade and can prolly be ported to 10 if they wanted.
    • by Scoth ( 879800 )

      I've found exactly one thing that Windows 11 does better than 10 - it remembers multi-monitor window layouts better if you're frequently moving between a laptop and docking station, or otherwise multiple monitor setups. It will smartly restore the positions of windows on your monitors where they were when you unplugged/replugged. This is something Mac has done forever and always been a mild annoyance with Windows where I'd have to spend a minutes or two rearranging windows every time I plugged/unplugged my

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Only one machine around here is Windows 11 eligible, but my wife won't give permission. I have yet to find a feature that will persuade her. Not that I expect much from Slashdot these years, but in the form of a question:

      Can you point at a single compelling feature of Windows 11 that justified the upgrade for you?

      I have seen too many lists of improvements. None that seemed "marketable", but I should note that she is NOT fond of change. But maybe the real problem is that I've become less fond of change myself? I can still (barely) remember when I was a young whippersnapper (who loved change) before I became an old whippersnapped (who can take change or leave it).

      Posting AC because I've modded in this thread.

      It isn't a resistance to change, other than the change getting in the way.

      I know the Microsoft people will faint, but the purpose of an Operating system is not to entrance people about the operating system. It is there to start the programs for the work they want to do, then get the hell out of the way.

      We have one Windows 11 computer that I've been evaluating. And it's a shitshow. On a W10 system, I can to maintenance and administrative tasks using muscl

    • If you want a Win11 box, buy a cheap laptop and use that. I'm surprised you don't have multiple systems (or your own personal non-shared system)

      • by shanen ( 462549 )

        I have many boxen, which seems to be obvious enough from the context I provided, but mostly I can't recall whether I asked you to ignore my comments. Your handle doesn't ring any bells, but maybe it jiggles a toilet handle somewhere in my memory...

        Except for smartphones and their cursed batteries, I'm generally pretty good at keeping old machines alive and even updated.

    • but my wife won't give permission

      Why? Let's address that point first. Resistance to change is sometimes justified and sometimes not. Change the setting to move the centered taskbar to the left where it damn well belongs and from an end user point of view 99.9% of what they do with Windows 11 is completely identical to Windows 10 with all the buttons being right where you expect them to be and where they've been for decades.

      The other 0.1% is changing settings in the OS itself, and that seems to be a slight improvement over Windows 10.

      About

      • by shanen ( 462549 )

        My wife is definitely not a power user. More like a tool abuser, whereas I'm something of a tool phreak. I'm much less concerned with what I can do with the tools compared to learning about the capabilities of the tools. Quite rare for me to meet a tool that I don't like, though I never met a naan I didn't like. (With apologies to Will Rogers.)

        So my motivation for studying Windows 11? Partly the blackmail of the end of supported life for Windows 10, but I'd prefer to focus on the more positive side. I was n

    • by Shemmie ( 909181 )

      Microsoft put out a video when Win 11 dropped, showing 'modern people' with big smiles plugging and unplugging monitors for seamless transition, and focussed on how rearranging windows with the snap gizmo was a new phase for humanity.

      Maybe you could show her that she can rearrange windows into cool layouts, and unleash the power of computing in 2022.

  • Hmmm.... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by bb_matt ( 5705262 ) on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @01:16PM (#62898857)

    Windows 11 brought a sense of ease to the PC, with an intuitive design people love

    That's not quite the feedback I recall reading - nor the feedback I'd give after a few hours taking it for a test drive.

    Rather, Windows 11 threw out a TON of visual and finger memory and confused the heck out of people ... again.

    and the No. 1 ask from you, tabs in File Explorer

    Better late than never, I guess - like a decade...

    We also want to continue to make Windows the best place to play games

    If you actually have a choice as to what OS you'd like to use and are a PC Gamer, I guess that's about the only compelling reason.
    Then again, you'd probably want to stick with windows 10, until someone smacks Microsoft with that clue stick.

    Linux is gaining ground for PC gaming - sure, it is still niche - but Valve have _totally_ given desktop Linux a bloody good fighting chance of becoming a PC gamers dream OS.
    The switch from windows to Linux - if you are primarily in the Steam ecosystem for PC games - is still not completely painless, but hell, it's close to being excellent. A couple of GUI clicks to enable compatibility - and 95% of steam games run at close to or sometimes better than under Windows.

    I made the switch a year or more back - no complaints.

    Microsoft have totally screwed up windows - with some sort of bizarre experimentation that throws the baby out with the bathwater.
    Why on earth would you mess about with nearly 2 decades of familiarity with the launch of windows 8, then try and backtrack with windows 10 and then make the same damn mistakes again with windows 11?

    Meantime, there's only ONE desktop OS that has maintained familiarity for over 2 decades - macOS.
    Heck, some of the familiarities have been around since 1984.

    You may hate that walled garden, but one thing Apple do well, is continuity - microsoft has failed here.

    • I hate to throw dirt on the party here (and I have more *nix boxes than I do Windows boxes at home) but according to Steam themselves:

      https://store.steampowered.com... [steampowered.com]

      Linux has ~1.27% of the market. If Steam is trying to promote Linux, they are not doing a great job of it.

      • Yes, and that number has been trending up.
        It use to be less that 1%
      • I am part of the 1.27%
        Never going back to gaming on Windows.
      • I hate to throw dirt on the party here (and I have more *nix boxes than I do Windows boxes at home) but according to Steam themselves:

        https://store.steampowered.com... [steampowered.com]

        Linux has ~1.27% of the market. If Steam is trying to promote Linux, they are not doing a great job of it.

        Well, clearly they aren't trying to promote it, but rather were always using it for their own ends - which turned out to be a hardware product launch - the steam deck.

        Even 1% of the market is damn good feedback of various metrics.

    • The only reason not to use Linux over Windows at this point is laziness.
      I could care less about any game that puts in a piece of malware to call it security.
      • I really hope Star Citizen will run on Linux, if even through WINE, when it finally releases in 2045.

      • The only reason not to use Linux over Windows at this point is laziness.

        Can't update the firmware of any of my devices in Linux. The amateur radio contest software I use isn't available in Linux and doesn't work under WINE anything like properly and there is no Linux equivalent. Some of the games I play simply won't and never will run under Linux due to the kernel level anti-cheat they use and also HDR support in Linux is completely absent and I like gaming and watching movies in HDR. I have a whole raft of reasons why I dual boot. Daily use I'm in Mint but for gaming, my amate

    • Rather, Windows 11 threw out a TON of visual and finger memory and confused the heck out of people ... again.

      Linux is gaining ground for PC gaming - sure, it is still niche - but Valve have _totally_ given desktop Linux a bloody good fighting chance of becoming a PC gamers dream OS. The switch from windows to Linux - if you are primarily in the Steam ecosystem for PC games - is still not completely painless, but hell, it's close to being excellent.

      So you complain about Windows 11 throwing out a ton of visual and finger memory and confusing the heck out of people and your solution to that is to install Linux? Fucking jesus you fanboys really need to get your shit together and I say that as someone who has been on Linux for coming up to 20 years. You've got to re-learn an entirely different OS, different ways to do almost everything and applying "I used to do it this way in Windows" just often leads to frustration. They've also got to learn those lovel

    • Sadly, today's Linux is also beginning to suck. It's been going downhill since systemd.

    • I remember being able to search my files very quickly in windows XP. Then they did a windows search update 4 or 5... and I have not been able to search my files since. and windows explorer shows a huge loading bar making it so I can't even see the contents of a folder for a few _minutes_ on a pretty fast machine... I used to be able to browse my files on an old machine with XP as quick as I could navigate.

      I also have installed Dolphin, the browser from the KDE project.... and I can use my computer fast

  • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @01:20PM (#62898865)

    updates to the Start menu - Putting features back which we removed in Windows 11. Bringing back features from Windows 10
    faster and more accurate search - We're fixing the infuriatingly slow response of Windows 11 search. Making it as fast as Windows 10.
    Quick Settings - We're adding some shortcuts we removed. We took inspiration from Windows 10.
    improved local and current events coverage in your Widgets board - We made a change. Any change. I mean it literally couldn't have been worse.
    and the No. 1 ask from you, tabs in File Explorer - We've implemented a feature we showed working just fine in betas 10 years ago.

    I defend MS often on here against haters, but they are making this really hard.

    • I defend MS often on here against haters, but they are making this really hard.

      Yeah, it's like Windows 8 all over again.

      It seems Microsoft for the last decade, are hellbent on learning the hard way.

      They keep screwing with what users are familiar with - rather than slow and steady iterations, they seem to want to completely overhaul everything.

      Why the heck mess with the start menu?
      I don't get it - they backtracked on that after the disaster that was windows 8, yet make the same damn mistake all over again?

      Th

      • Why the heck mess with the start menu?
        I don't get it - they backtracked on that after the disaster that was windows 8, yet make the same damn mistake all over again?

        It's agile. They re-wrote the start menu from the ground up for whatever reason. Never got it finished or feature complete, and shipped the "minimum viable product", aka threw a half functioning beta at the users and will spend the next 5 years patching it and bringing its functionality back to where it belongs.

        I wish this were only a Microsoft thing. My company has embraced agile for actual engineering products now. It's one thing to build a barely functioning piece of software, quite another to develop a

    • by GoTeam ( 5042081 )

      I defend MS often on here against haters, but they are making this really hard.

      I for one love all the random UI changes. Not knowing what to expect with the next update adds joy to my life. A coworker of mine asked me to look up Stockholm syndrome, but I haven't had a chance yet. I'm too busy contemplating how terminal tabs are a fantastic forward-thinking feature that no one but MS could possibly birth into this wild world!

      • I'm too busy contemplating how terminal tabs are a fantastic forward-thinking feature that no one but MS could possibly birth into this wild world!

        The one feature I actually love and amazingly something nothing at all to do with Windows 11 since you can simply install the terminal app on Windows 10. But I do think you're being unfair to MS. They get huge backlash whenever they change a low level feature to the OS, so it's not that they were innovative with adding tabs to the terminal, but rather they were expecting huge backlash. And here we are, even when they did something positive they are being mocked for it.

        Actually one feature I do like in Windo

        • by GoTeam ( 5042081 )
          Oh I like that they added tabs to terminal. I was just mocking how long it took to get a feature that's been in use by other applications for years. They are in a no-win spot because of their position in the market, but if they listened to what their customers wanted instead of telling us what we want, I think we'd get fewer jack-asses like me bitching about how they run their company.

          (also, the best thing that could be said about their licensing is that it's not as bad/predatory as Oracle's)
  • > Windows 11 brought a sense of ease to the PC, with an intuitive design people love.

    Everyone, and I mean _everyone_, hated the new and unpredictable touch screen optimized interface.

  • Microsoft recently hired Lennart Pottering. As systemd finally begins to stabilize, I expect Microsoft to start taking up some of Lennart's design goals of "immutability" and centralizing all system control in his own Windows-only tool suite.

  • It almost always shows the exact opposite of what's happening outside (in an European capital). E.g. "starting to rain" when there's no cloud in the sky or "extreme heat" at 17Â Celsius". Pretty accurate with a microsoftian twist.
  • My only big gripe with windows is the forced code signing. I shouldnâ(TM)t have to pay some third party to release software my users can actually install.
    • You don't. Windows 11 handles it the same as Windows 10. Users simply have to either click twice in the dialogue to run unsigned code or they enable the very simple to understand checkbox "Install apps from any source" and they won't even get warned about unsigned code. The popup literally is identical in text to what Windows 10 has been showing users for nearly 7 years now and even the system wide setting is in the same place.

      Yet another great example of people who complain about something new which isn't

  • I just installed this update on a machine with only local accounts and it wanted me to sign in with a microsoft account with no skip option. I opened task manager, clicked back and next a few times, tried to leave it blank with no user/pass, back and next a few more times. At some point it gave me the option to skip. i know there are other methods out there to bypass this, but i thought I should share in case you, like me, you're don't prepare first because you're not anticipating an update to try to for
    • An extra "you're" snuck in there.
    • I gave up when the usual tricks didn't work and just accepted the inevitability. When you install stuff like your preferred browser and cloud storage access you end up signing in to online accounts for Onedrive, Google, Firefox etc anyway so in the end it just ends up feeling like a pointless protest. They're all going to be getting your telematics and fingerprinting you for ads so it makes zero difference logging into Windows with a MS account.
  • I'm ready to roll back to Win10. The Win11 UI is awful, sounds like its about to get worse. I don't like being Microsoft's test human, when my choice is to run a released commercial operating system.

  • Windows 11 brought a sense of ease to the PC, with an intuitive design people love

    And I'm Superman.

  • I'll grant MS that tabs in Windows Explorer is a small improvement, but that feels like an enhancement somebody's freeware or cheap shareware download would have done, back in the day. It's nothing a new OS is required for.

    I haven't met anyone who really prefers the new center positioning for the start menu button. The new "snap" features for window position/sizing are just "meh" in my opinion. What people ACTUALLY care about is being able to size and place all the windows they use the way they prefer, acr

    • I haven't met anyone who really prefers the new center positioning for the start menu button.

      I use Mac OS a lot so to me I just use the task bar and start menu in a similar way. The start menu button and menu functionality now works quite a lot like Launchpad...click button, if what you want doesn't come up on the first new window type what you're looking for in the search bar at the top. It's much faster than going through nested menus to get to whatever you want to run.

  • We have three desktops and three laptops here -- all running Win10 pro. Most of them were acquired in the last three years. All fail the compatibility test for Win11. Doesn't matter what new and improved bugs and features Win 11 has over Win 10 -- its not worth a major hardware upgrade across the board. And new versions of applications that for one reason or another need 'upgrading'. And discovering new gotchas. Just no...

  • Click for more options--instead of copy, cut, and paste.
  • Windows 11 provides layers of hardware and software integrated for powerful, out-of-the box protection from the moment you start your device -- and we're continuing to innovate.

    As I tell people daily, Windows is now a host platform for Antimalware Service Executable that serves only to install the updates that keep Redmond programmers employed.

    • About once a month I turn on my Win10 work machine and the Antimalware Service thing is sucking up all the RAM and hard drive access so hard that it's impossible to use the machine for an hour or more before it finally finishes doing whatever it's doing and I can run actual applications.
      • In the office I work at now, everytime Microsoft rolls out an update, the machines are unusable for the first half of the next day. Basically the whole office does everything with pen and paper until the machines have rebooted, run through the antimalware cycles, checked for new updates, and then finally restore what of the running applications could be saved. It's just going to get worse, since Microsoft now makes itself relevant through constant updates of almost zero actual utility.

  • by Computershack ( 1143409 ) on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @07:20AM (#62900841)
    You can no longer do an offline install to avoid the telematics. You cannot install without a network cable in, use the ending the Netflow process workaround or the last resort of putting in an invalid MS account credentials. It will not allow you to progress past the set up a Microsoft account stage any longer. And this is on the Pro version too.
  • They hate change. They are too lazy to learn. They don't want to embrace the future. The new whatever is the standard, you might as well accept it, and learn to love it.

    • Absolutely correct. My time on earth happens to be finite. I don't want to spend it learning some moron's idea of how the new UI is better than the old UI, over and over and over again.

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