Samsung Seeks Smart TV Growth With First Tizen OS Licensing Deals (techcrunch.com) 37
Samsung has confirmed the first third-party smart TV makers to ship with its Tizen operating system (OS), with several manufacturers preparing to launch Tizen-powered TVs this year across Europe and Australasia. From a report: Tizen, for the uninitiated, is a Linux-based OS hosted by the Linux Foundation for more than a decade, though Samsung has been the primary developer and driving force behind the project, using it across myriad devices, including smartwatches, kitchen appliances, cameras, smartphones and TVs.
Although Samsung has essentially abandoned Tizen in smartphones and smart watches, TVs have remained fertile ground for Tizen to flourish, chiefly due to the fact that Samsung is the biggest selling TV maker globally. But while recent figures from Dataxis show that Tizen's market share in 2020 was roughly one-third in terms of installation base, the number has been slowly creeping downward with the likes of Android TV and Roku edging upward.
Although Samsung has essentially abandoned Tizen in smartphones and smart watches, TVs have remained fertile ground for Tizen to flourish, chiefly due to the fact that Samsung is the biggest selling TV maker globally. But while recent figures from Dataxis show that Tizen's market share in 2020 was roughly one-third in terms of installation base, the number has been slowly creeping downward with the likes of Android TV and Roku edging upward.
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I came here to say this. I have some Samsung TVs, and they are nice enough, but getting ads in my OS really, really angers me. Viscerally, at a level I cannot rationalize. I will not buy another Samsung, and I do not need another manufacturer to take on their crap!
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Sceptre is the brand that does that. Chinese made, decent quality, doesn't seem to last a very long time -- but you can get good-sized (45" - 65") *DUMB* 4K TV. Amazon sells them.
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Commercial Displays are more or less TV panels with no Smart tech built in. You probably won't get a 240Hz OLED panel that way, but they're still available.
There's also no requirement that your TV ever get an internet connection in your home.
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Commercial Displays are more or less TV panels with no Smart tech built in. You probably won't get a 240Hz OLED panel that way, but they're still available.
There's also no requirement that your TV ever get an internet connection in your home.
Commercial displays are NOT TVs. Full Stop! Also, computer monitors are not TVs. Full stop.
A TV is more than an LCD pannel.
Commercial displays are heavy and have (noisy) fans attached, because said pannels are oftentimes mounted in non-ideal conditions.
Commercial displays often lack multiple inputs, speakers (One does not need a sound bar to watch last week tonight, the integrated speakers of a TV, crappy as tyhey are, are more more than enough).
Commercial Displays also lack a tunner (OTA-TV is a god-send f
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If you can't figure out a way to prevent a device from connecting to the internet, you probably don't need to be in a Slashdot comment thread.
If you can't figure out how to set up any sort of display to split your audio and video signals appropriately, you definitely don't need to be in a Slashdot comment thread.
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Commercial displays are NOT TVs. Full Stop!
Completely wrong.
Commercial displays are heavy and have (noisy) fans attached
They are not necessarily any heavier and many if not most of them have no fans.
Commercial displays often lack multiple inputs, speakers (One does not need a sound bar to watch last week tonight, the integrated speakers of a TV, crappy as tyhey are, are more more than enough).
Commercial Displays also lack a tunner (OTA-TV is a god-send for cord cutters), and a sleep function, to name a few.
The majority of commercial displays have all of that stuff. I was just shopping for them.
Remote control in a commercial display or Computer monitor? more unlikely than you think.
Most of them come with a remote, too.
As for your smarTV being not connected to the net, well some SmarTVs will scan the networl for open APs and connect that way.
Ain't no open APs anywhere near here. I know, I've checked.
Also, is not unlikely that the TVs App used to control advanced functions of the TV via BT and your phone can serve as a springboard for your TV to gain net access...
That's not only spectacularly unlikely, but it wouldn't just happen without you noticing.
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The brand is Konka and it is a bit shit really. The picture is ok but I have never heard speakers quite as bad as the tinny crap the guys at Konka put into this particular model.
At least it was cheap.
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This is the way. I bought a cheap Roku 4k tv and it was almost unusable out of the box. Didn’t feel like trying to return it so I connected it once for a software update and then everything worked great. Their dhcp implementation was also broken. It requested an address, got one assigned but still used a wrong gateway ip. Finally gave it a fixed lease and it connected.
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This is exactly why I don't connect any TVs to the internet. I set them up as dumb monitors and then just plug in an AppleTV for the smart stuff. I just bought a new Samsung and Vizio and neither has ever seen the internet once, and never will. So I also haven't seen any ads.
Yes and no. You (or me) can do that. But my mom (80) and my dad (85) have problems as it is grasping the concept of multiple inputs (the cable box) and multiple remotes. The only way they undestand youtube is by using the SmarTV's youtube App (and button).
As for us not connecting the SmarTV to the net, ther are reports of TVs scanning the airwaves for Open APs and "helpfully" connecting themselves without pesky human intervention...
My two TVs are still dumb. But I rue the day when one fails and has to be re
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This is exactly why I don't connect any TVs to the internet. I set them up as dumb monitors and then just plug in an AppleTV for the smart stuff. I just bought a new Samsung and Vizio and neither has ever seen the internet once, and never will. So I also haven't seen any ads.
This exactly THIS. AppleTV, Roku, Kodi box, whatever, but don't connect that TV to the Internet.
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I like Linux (Score:2)
But it has ruined TVs.
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Agreed.
The more "Smart" TVs we have it seems like the more "Dumb" consumers there are. /s
Unfortunately TV manufacturers are too busy profiting [engadget.com] off your data and ads so they have little (financial) incentive to produce a bare bones TV.
With 100+ streaming services these days just buy a display and use your favorite steaming app.
Samsung, etc. don't respect [reddit.com] your time. It seems Sony offers professional displays [pro.sony] that don't have shitty ad insertion.
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I like Samsung hardware, no issue there, but the OS is shit.
Owning 5 Samsung TVs (different generations, sizes, production years), none of them have well-working OS. Furthermore, each of them exhibit different issues from one another.
One of them has sluggish interface (talking about between 3 and 5 seconds delay after pressing a remote button)
One keeps losing BT pairing with the remote, I have to reset both remote and TV to get it started again. It's not the hardware, changed remotes between compatible TVs
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A few years ago - my guess would be around six - one of the "security guys" had a a good look at Tizen, He said that whoever the developers were, they were totally clueless when it came to security. I'm pretty sure I came across the article here on this site.
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A few years ago - my guess would be around six - one of the "security guys" had a a good look at Tizen, He said that whoever the developers were, they were totally clueless when it came to security. I'm pretty sure I came across the article here on this site.
Good guess on the article date! Security Researcher Says Samsung's Tizen OS Is The Worst Code He's Ever Seen [slashdot.org]
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Tizen is based on Enlightenment Foundation Libraries, which is one of the worst designed UI libraries ever. Two words: "void pointers". And as such, it is why I make an effort to avoid Samsung products.
https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/15001/enlightened [thedailywtf.com]
Smart TVs are dumb (Score:1)
I do not want a smart TV. I would not want it with Tizen, I would not want it with Roku. I do not want it with 3d, I would not want it with Netflix. I do not like SmartTVs, I do not want them anywhere.
Bad jokes aside, I will never *ever* purchase a smart TV. If I can't have a dumb panel when time comes, then I guess I won't be watching TV anymore...not that I watch a whole lot right now.
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You can buy “dumb” professional displays all day long but they aren’t cheap. Be prepared to spend at least $2k.
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Look, no [amazon.com]. You can spend that much sure, or more if you like, but on average a signage display only costs one or two hundred bucks more than the TV it's based on. Nobody is making panels only for signage. Nobody is designing TVs only for signage. Instead they design the PCB to have some components left off and anything they don't want in the signage TV just doesn't get those components, and is programmed to know it doesn't have them. They reduce the number of inputs (rarely to less than two) and maybe or may
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What you link start at +$1000 for the size I want and go up from there.
So what you're saying is it's half as much as the GP claimed...
One thing they don't generally do is make shitty signage TVs. They use the better panels because contrast and viewing angle are important. So you're not going to see the big brands' shittiest models represented in that category.
Tizen is an absolute garbage OS. (Score:3)
Tizen has a really weird architecture and even Samsung often abandons major streaming services because it can't be bothered to update software for older OS versions. I have a reasonably new and expensive Samsung TV that is no longer capable of using its built-in versions of either Netflix or Youtube. As it happens, I've never bothered to let it connect to my network anyway, but I'm aware that it's a problem for Tizen.
This does not speak highly of it as an OS that deserves to proliferate.
Along with everyone else, I'd suggest a dedicated box. In my case, I'd say an nVidia Shield is a good option since I've found that everything Roku makes seems slow and Apple is a non-starter for the usual Apple reasons.
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Thanks. The Frame nearly got me. :)
mckwant
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We have a 5 year old cheap Samsung 4K HDR LCD TV (costed 400 euro in 2017 for 42", can't remember the exact model). It could play Netflix and HBO GO without problems for the whole 5 years. The interface was simple and responsive.
We moved 5 months ago and bought LG C1 OLED with WebOS. This brand new TV has laggier interface than my 5 year old TV! In reality this could be due to the weird remote which is some sort of wireless instead of IR, but I have no way to test this. Oh ye
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Tizen was best (Score:2)
Tizen-based phones were superior to the Android OS that Samsung (and everyone else) now uses. The problem was (and still is), Samsung does no, or minimal, updates of their Tizen-based products.