Tensions Rise in India Over Claim That Instagram Let Ruling Party Tamper With Posts (washingtonpost.com) 52
News outlet The Wire is investigating its own reporting amid an explosive dispute with Meta. From a report: Last week, The Wire, a small but gutsy Indian news outlet, seemed to land one explosive punch after another on Meta, the social media giant that owns Instagram and Facebook. The California company had given an influential official from India's ruling party the extraordinary power to censor Instagram posts that he didn't like, The Wire reported, citing a document leaked by a Meta insider. A day later, The Wire reported that Meta executives were scrambling to find the mole who leaked the story, citing a new internal email the publication had obtained.
Finally, after Meta executives denied both reports on social media -- and, in an unusual move, insisted that The Wire's documents appeared fabricated -- The Wire released a lengthy rebuttal on Saturday that the outlet said would lay to rest any doubts about its reporting. It did not. Instead, The Wire is now investigating itself. The publication said Tuesday it launched an internal review of its stories about Meta, adding a new twist to a sensational dispute between a reputed Indian news organization and a powerful Silicon Valley company -- a clash that has captivated the technology and media industries in both India and the United States.
UPDATE (10/23): The Wire has retracted their story.
Finally, after Meta executives denied both reports on social media -- and, in an unusual move, insisted that The Wire's documents appeared fabricated -- The Wire released a lengthy rebuttal on Saturday that the outlet said would lay to rest any doubts about its reporting. It did not. Instead, The Wire is now investigating itself. The publication said Tuesday it launched an internal review of its stories about Meta, adding a new twist to a sensational dispute between a reputed Indian news organization and a powerful Silicon Valley company -- a clash that has captivated the technology and media industries in both India and the United States.
UPDATE (10/23): The Wire has retracted their story.
Fuckerberg is too busy working on VR leg designs (Score:2, Insightful)
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> Zuckerberg is too busy working on VR legs
But walking is the needful thing.
Of course they did (Score:1, Troll)
Facebook(Meta) had the government dictate or block a bunch of content in the U.S., why would India be any different? Modification? Sure why not. Anything is possible when you are working directly with governments and your company will cease to exist if you disobey (or bad things will happen personally to executives).
That's not what's going on here (Score:4, Informative)
Contrary to what your Uncle-in-Law's FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW: emails said, Joe Biden is not censoring Facebook with the help of the Illuminati while mainlining Adrenechrome & Homeopathic Essential Oils. We've got pretty strong rules about free speech. Facebook isn't taking down your favorite (let's face it, right wing) politicians because the gov't told them too. They took them down because they wouldn't stop inciting violence and/or saying racist things, and FB did a calculation that it costs more to have them up than they make from you looking at adverts.
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Democrats were not blocking anything. Facebook and other social companies were blocking hateful content.
It's sad that companies blocking hatespeech is seen as somehow appeasing the left, when it's literally simply the right thing to do. If a store kicked out someone who was giving a loud speech, trying to rile people up to commit violence based on bigotry, we wouldn't bat an aye, let alone 'blame the libs'
Likewise only blatant misinformation was being taken down during the pandemic, which is necessary since
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Once the Republicans get control back they'll ensure the Democrats never get in ever again.
I'm sure elections will continue, because everyone likes at least the pretense of democracy, but at least the right people will be in charge won't they?
Why worry at all? Doesn't matter. (Score:1)
Don't worry about it too much.
Once the Republicans get control back they'll ensure the Democrats never get in ever again.
You mean just as the Democrats are trying to do now...
I don't worry about it either way though, because unlike most people I realize the Democrat/Republican fight is theater for the masses, and utterly irrelevant to real world matters soon to engulf us all.
It's really statists versus non-statists, and there are really no good options to give non-statists power anytime soon. They are the
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You mean just as the Democrats are trying to do now...
Would you want a bunch of people who tried to overthrow the government back in power?
There's a reason you'll never see the Nazi party run for office in Germany.
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Which of course they can't.
Also, as you can see from SuperKendall's comment, they pretend to be against both sides, but always side with the Republicans when push comes to shove, so they're not actually serious.
That's why Libert
Not at all (Score:1)
always side with the Republicans when push comes to shove,
Not even close, however the Democrats have been trying to be worse in recent years so I may have commented on their actions more. But I've only voted libertarian for a while so that is hardly "push comes to shove" support of any Republicans..
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Re: Why worry at all? Doesn't matter. (Score:2)
That author is retarded. All Libertarians are statists.
"Statist" is an insult in anarchist circles. Libertarians very much want there to be a state. It's baked into the ideology.
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On second thoughts, don't.
Re: Why worry at all? Doesn't matter. (Score:2)
I AM a Libertarian (because I live in a closed primary state I have to declare in order to vote). I don't know many Libertarians aside from disaffected teenagers who are stupid enough to misunderstand what the word state means.
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It is entirely possible he's a disaffected teenager though.
Oh, and the author of the book I referred to didn't make the whole statist insult thing up. He was reporting what a bunch of Libertarians told him.
Re: Why worry at all? Doesn't matter. (Score:2)
Here's my line of thinking.
If you are a Libertarian (big L), then you are a supporter of the Libertarian party. If you support a party, you must support voting of some kind. If you support voting, you support government. If you support government, you're a statist.
If you are a libertarian (little L), then you support the ideology that a government's proper role is to secure individual liberty. If you believe government has a proper role in society, you're a statist.
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Sounds like you've thought about it, which is nice.
I suspect plenty of libertarians disagree entirely with you. Including SuperKendall.
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It seems like Facebook/Meta wanted to block certain content related to the 2020 Presidential election in the United States. It's not like anyone had to pressure them much. Ditto for Twitter and who knows who else.
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Truth isn't flame bait. Except to the easily triggered.
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Sounds like something Alex Jones would come up with.
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Modi-fication?
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Zuckerberg literally went onto Joe Roegan and said the Biden DoJ made him do this same thing ?
https://www.businessinsider.co... [businessinsider.com]
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The article you linked to makes no such claim.
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From the article:
"Rogan asked Zuckerberg about the late 2020 New York Post story about Joe Biden's son and how the company handled the article's reach online. Zuckerberg said the FBI had already approached Facebook with a warning to be on the lookout for such controversial content, especially since Russian propaganda played a role on the platform around the 2016 election."
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I did read the article carefully the first time.
You need to go back to remedial English classes, because being "on the lookout" is not the same as "dictate or block a bunch of content in the U.S.".
Whodunit? (Score:2)
Sounds like The Wire "got took." (Score:2)
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Fabricating emails is vile shit though. That kind of thing is an all-out attack on the very concept of journalism. Hopefully that organization will now be on a mission to expose who did it rather than getting quiet and fearful.
Civilization demands stepping on liars that extreme.
Or at the very least electing them to public office. Heyoh!
PLEASE NOTE: Before somebody knee-jerk responds with some defense of "their" team? I'm not specifying a political party or specific politician for a reason. They're all liars in my country. Top to bottom.
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> If it does come to light, they damaged journalists who are probably their enemies most of the time
In almost all of these scenarios the journalists damage themselves by not second- and third- sourcing the stories, depending on gravity of the claims. They so often want to be first-to-publish and skip journalistic integrity (IMO forfeiting the title 'journalist').
On the other hand, the journalists got clicks/ads and the adversary got his message out while the retraction will be buried on Page 17 and the
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Re: Sounds like The Wire "got took." (Score:2)
Sure. And that's why the industry has rules of thumb for sourcing. If you can't find a second source, you don't run the story. Just because you believe something really hard does not mean you're a journalist.
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Re: Sounds like The Wire "got took." (Score:2)
Ah. I just read the summary. I thought the email was the primary source.
Nice to see it confirmed (Score:2)
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FB doesn't lean right.
FB leans towards money and power. And when it's free, they virtue signal left but don't really mean it if it costs them money or influence. In those cases they default back to lean to money and power.
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Money and Power has a tendency to lean right... Except when it doesn't, since it does wobble a lot. But most of the rich Authoritarian places are leaning so right that they're falling down, and the poor Authoritarian places don't have enough money and power to care about no matter how they lean.
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I believe political philosophy is secondary for those for whom power and money are primary. That was my point in my first comment.
The Wire probably got conned. (Score:2)
From their initial reaction, it's quite clear that they really believed their report. But the obstinacy with which they dug in their heels cost them their credibility.
Having said that, the key "security reporter" - whose email/twitter was allegedly (and conveniently) hacked - has a history of writing unsubstantiated articles which have never been corroborated by anyone else.
So MS has decided to go after Indian government (Score:1)
Not talking about the topic of The Wire, which is a problem that Indians will hopefully solve over time, but I want to make highlight this: I don't see any tensions anywhere among public, which makes the article in washington post basically "fake news".
This reminds me of articles in western media (The Economist, NYT etc.) that I used to read 10-15 years ago where they would claim that a train crashed and now people are rising against the dictatorship. Of course there is no revolution happening in China wher
Re: So MS has decided to go after Indian governmen (Score:2)
Doesn't matter how many supporters you get in an election. If you're a racist piece of shit, your government's got to go.
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No idea what you are talking about.
Re: So MS has decided to go after Indian governme (Score:2)
In a discussion about the Indian government, you don't know who the "racist piece of shit" is? Maybe don't comment about stuff you are not familiar with.
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Ukrain? Russia? Please enlighten me master I am but a lowly Indian living in India.
Re: So MS has decided to go after Indian governme (Score:2)
Then you're the racist piece of shit.
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That's impeccable reasoning. I was afraid I might get into an actual argument.