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OpenBSD 7.2 Released 21

Longtime Slashdot reader lazyeye writes: The 53rd release of OpenBSD, version 7.2, has officially been released. Support for new platforms such as the Ampere Altra, Apple M2 chip, and support for Lenovo ThinkPad x13s and other machines using the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 (SC8280XP) SoC are now included, along with various kernel improvements. The announcement with all the details are available at the link [here] from the openbsd-announce mailing list.
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OpenBSD 7.2 Released

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  • Nice (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Thursday October 20, 2022 @06:41PM (#62984335)

    Going to run sysupgrade this weekend. Couldn’t be easier. Also unlike Linux, *BSD won’t rewrite all of /etc for “reasons”.

    • I ran sysupgrade today. So impressed with how easy it is to upgrade OpenBSD.
      And I love doing package updates in 7.2. They really seem to have sped it up.

    • Re:Nice (Score:5, Informative)

      by lsllll ( 830002 ) on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:36PM (#62984601)
      Not sure who modded you up, but I'm not aware of a "Linux" upgrade (specify flavor, please?) rewriting all of /etc. In almost all instances, at least on Debian, the upgrade process asks you what you want to do with the old .conf file. I actually upgraded something today and it even detected that I had made changes to sysctl.conf and asked me what I wanted to do. I copied my settings from the old file before I let it overwrite the file and while the upgrade was happening put my changes back in. It was quite simple actually.
      • With modern linux I consider about half of /etc to be off limits, its really a gut feeling sort of thing but I’m never surprised to find that files are no longer used, maintained by other programs or something like that.

        I know it doesn’t have to be this way, its not a linux problem its more an issue if you want to run any well supported distribution but it still sucks.

      • I meant the structure of /etc changing. Go back in time 8 years. How do you set a static ip address? Is it netplan, connman, networkmanager, ip, or ifconfig? Want to bet the next Ubuntu release will use neither of those? What if I want to change my DNS servers? Well some random systemd daemon will probably overwrite my changes.

        • by lsllll ( 830002 )
          You had me at "static ip address". I agree that how that has changed (all due to systemd) is a complete clusterfuck. DNS is pretty much the same way as you said. To my knowledge this is all to accommodate portable devices. And in a way I believe portable devices have ruined many things for those of us who sit behind a desk, whether it be network control or user interface. Just look at Unity and Gnome 3 and everything that must be Steve-Jobesque clean and simple. Firewall is another thing that suffered
    • by caseih ( 160668 )

      I've never had a Linux distro version upgrade ever rewrite all of /etc. RedHat, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, Mint. Sometimes an update will allow you to replace a file in /etc if you choose (usually because the old file may not be compatible with a change).

    • Re:Nice (Score:5, Informative)

      by Aethedor ( 973725 ) on Friday October 21, 2022 @02:09AM (#62985033)
      Ah, our typical BSD fanboy who hates/fears/envies Linux. I'm running Ubuntu server and I have upgraded it to many new releases. It all went smooth, no issues, no /etc rewrites.
    • I came here to make fun of Obsd users but you got me intrigued!

      Hows the hardware support and general quality of life? I probably have zero shot at running this on an intel NUC and getting it to work with a 10gbe thunderbolt3 adapter do I? Last time I played with obsd was about 10 years ago, I remember bitcoin was a nerds only thing, lulzsec was the news of the day. and obsd was missing enough drivers that I’d basically have to build my machine specifically to run it. I did get it booting even if a

    • > Also unlike Linux, *BSD wonâ(TM)t rewrite all of /etc for âoereasonsâ.

      Linux is a kernel - it doesn't write to /etc.

      Make a specific allegation about which Linux distro overwrites /etc on upgrade.

      We'll wait.

  • by FudRucker ( 866063 ) on Thursday October 20, 2022 @06:54PM (#62984357)
    an operating system so secure that even i cant use it
  • Oh Yeah, Apple Computer did a few decades ago. Apple Computer could make a killing by making their OS available to any one who wants to buy and install it. They could use online purchase control to ban pirates. Just sayin...
    • by jeremyp ( 130771 )

      macOS is not BSD. The kernel has some BSD components in it - or it used to. They've probably been rewritten. The command line is basically BSD but that is a small part of what macOS is these days.

      The kernel source is available at

      https://github.com/apple/darwi... [github.com]

      Good luck getting it to build and run on anything not a Mac though. I'm sure it's possible in principle but there would be a lot of work needed.

  • I really like OpenBSD, yet at this time, I do not have anything that is actually running it. Maybe I should scrounge around the back of the sofa for a few pennies and get another laptop PC.
  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Friday October 21, 2022 @05:02AM (#62985213)

    At this point it's fair to say: Netcraft is dying, BSD confirms it.

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