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Japan, Netherlands To Join US in Chip Controls on China (bloomberg.com) 43

Japan and the Netherlands are poised to join the US in limiting China's access to advanced semiconductor machinery, forging a powerful alliance that will undercut Beijing's ambitions to build its own domestic chip capabilities, Bloomberg News reported Friday, citing people familiar with the negotiations. From the report: US, Dutch and Japanese officials are set to conclude talks as soon as Friday US time on a new set of limits to what can be supplied to Chinese companies, the people said, asking not to be named because the talks are private. Negotiations were ongoing as of late Thursday in Washington. There is no plan for a public announcement of restrictions that will likely be just implemented, the people said.

The Netherlands will expand restrictions on ASML Holding NV, which will prevent it from selling at least some of its so-called deep ultraviolet lithography machines, crucial to making some types of advanced chips and without which attempts to set up production lines may be impossible. Japan will set similar limits on Nikon. The joint effort expands on restrictions the Biden administration unveiled in October that were aimed at curtailing China's ability to manufacture its own advanced semiconductors or buy cutting-edge chips from abroad that would aid military and artificial-intelligence capabilities.

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  • there has to be fish joke here someplace.
  • by manu0601 ( 2221348 ) on Friday January 27, 2023 @05:54PM (#63245735)
    That plan assumes China is unable to create its own deep UV lithography hardware. It will fail
    • Exactly my thoughts. How long before Intel/TSMC/TI/ADI... start buying cheaper fab equipment made in China? It will take awhile, but China's reaction is going to be precisely the same as the west's reaction to concentration of chip fabbing by TSMC. Make it themselves.
    • The goal isn't to prevent China from ever creating its own hardware, as you say that is impossible.
      The goal of these people is to give supply chains a chance to grow in places besides China, because it's relatively harder to get the parts inside the country.

    • That plan assumes China is unable to create its own deep UV lithography hardware. It will fail

      No, the plan is that by the time they do that we will be well into the next gen stuff.

    • China sure isn't able to do it presently, and clearly the tech is very difficult to replicate anywhere. By the time China is able to make the current deep UV lithography hardware, the state of the art will have advanced far beyond that point.

  • Netherlands. The origin of a large portion of the worlds brute force, credential stuffing and ecommerce exploit attacks. Fuck the Dutch. I block them right along with China.
    • Might be true, but they also make the lithography tools that were likely used to make every chip you've used in the last 15 years. That's what this is about.
    • Ever thought that's because your average american is too dumb (in terms of poor educated) for that sort of crime?
      • Oh absolutley, the motivation and skills must be present. I kind of feel for the actual front line workers though. It must be tough living in Nigera.
  • Didn't we have this story weeks ago? Or is this an update?

    https://www.americanmanufactur... [americanma...turing.org]

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