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Influence Networks In Russia Misled European Users, TikTok Says (nytimes.com) 121

An anonymous reader quotes a report from the New York Times: Last summer, 1,704 TikTok accounts made a coordinated and covert effort to influence public discourse about the war in Ukraine, the company said on Thursday. Nearly all the accounts were part of a single network operating out of Russia that pretended to be based in Europe and aimed its posts at Germans, Italians and Britons, the company said. The accounts used software to use local languages that amplified pro-Russia propaganda, attracting more than 133,000 followers before being discovered and removed by TikTok.

TikTok disclosed the networks on Thursday in an in-depth report that examined its handling of disinformation in Europe, where it has more than 100 million users, noting that conflict in Ukraine "challenged us to confront a complex and rapidly changing environment." The social media platform compiled the findings to comply with the European Union's voluntaryCode of Practice on Disinformation, which counts Google, Meta and Twitter among its other signatories. TikTok offered the detailed look into its operations as it tried to demonstrate its openness in the face of continued regulatory scrutiny over its data security and privacy practices.

As a newer platform, TikTok is "in a unique position to innovate in the search for solutions to these longstanding industry challenges," Caroline Greer, Tiktok's director of public policy and government relations, said in a blog post on Thursday. The company did not say whether the accounts had ties to the Russian government. In its report, covering mid-June through mid-December 2022, TikTok said it took down more than 36,500 videos, with 183.4 million views, across Europe because they violated TikTok's harmful misinformation policy. The company removed nearly 865,000 fake accounts, with more than 18 million followers between them (including 2.3 million in Spain and 2.2 million in France). There were nearly 500 accounts taken down in Poland alone under TikTok's policy banning impersonation. Early in the fighting in Ukraine last year, the company said, it noticed a sharp rise in attempts to post ads related to political and combat content, even though TikTok does not allow such advertising.
Some of the actions TikTok took to combat this misinformation include:

- started blocking Ukrainian and Russian advertisers from targeting European users
- hired native Russian and Ukrainian speakers to help with content moderation
- worked with Ukrainian-speaking reporters on fact-checking
- created a digital literacy program focused on information about the war
- restricted access to content from media outlets associated with the Russian government
- expanded its use of labels identifying state-sponsored material
- stopped recommending livestreamed videos coming from Russia and Ukraine to European users
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Influence Networks In Russia Misled European Users, TikTok Says

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  • ChatGPT (Score:5, Insightful)

    by roman_mir ( 125474 ) on Friday February 10, 2023 @09:39AM (#63281603) Homepage Journal

    Now imagine a not so distant future where ChatGPT or a similar system can create social media accounts, pretend to be people speaking different languages, disseminate fake information in a very convincing manner. Create photographic and video 'evidence', paperwork of some kind (fake passports, etc.) and direct narratives. Informational warfare will be at a new level. Today all of this os done by using human labour. A natural language processor system will be much more coordinated in its efforts at pushing info simultaneously, it will start and maintain fake conversations and will keep replying to anyone talking to it forever. Commanding public opinion is more important than having nuclear weapons.

    • Commanding public opinion is more important than having nuclear weapons.

      Only in democracies. You think li'l Kim in North Korea gives half a fuck about anyone's opinion?

      That's also the Achilles heel of democracy: It is very dependent on responsible adults who are capable of figuring out whether they're fed bullshit by someone posing as an authority figure. Sadly, our education system doesn't produce anything remotely resembling that.

      • by DarkOx ( 621550 )

        You think li'l Kim in North Korea gives half a fuck about anyone's opinion?

        Yes I do. In fact I would be its the number one thing he thinks about. Now he thinks about it differently than most of us do in the Western World.

        Kim very very much wants to ensure everyone's opinion is - Kim is strong, powerful, and very much in charge, and I dare not challenge that.

      • Re:ChatGPT (Score:4, Insightful)

        by roman_mir ( 125474 ) on Friday February 10, 2023 @09:58AM (#63281639) Homepage Journal

        Not true. Commanding public opinions is first priority in autocracies and dictatorships even totalitarian ones. That is what they do by controlling every media source. As to the current war, the messaging is everything. Ukraine is getting weapons because of messaging, ruzzians need the West to stop helping Ukraine, that is why there are tens of thousands of them involved in this information war, including on this site.

        • It doesn't take much messaging to feel sorry for a country that got invaded by a bigger neighbor.
          • actually it is not about feeling sorry, it is about practical implications of allowing this to happen and the moral hazzard of letting the world understand that there are no consequences for this type of behaviour. The other part of it is also very practical, without constantly reminding that this is still going on and nothing has ended, the world would not be providing weapons. Even as it is right now, the weapons are not coming on time and not in quantity really to have a timely impact. If Ukraine cou

          • It doesn't take much messaging to feel sorry for a country that got invaded by a bigger neighbor.

            Two points here: first, there are quite a few people who don't really feel sorry even if they don't explicitly support Russia. They simply don't have enough empathy to care. See references to "it's an European problem" in this very thread. Or, even if they do feel sorry, they don't really feel sorry enough to risk being even slightly inconvenienced. Most of those are also short-term thinkers who don't realize letting Putin do his thing today will lead to worse escalations tomorrow.

            Second, there are various

            • by AnilJ ( 1342025 )
              BS. Most of them are in Bruxxels, Duplicity, and Lund-one. They are importing russian oil refined in India from India.
      • You think li'l Kim in North Korea gives half a fuck about anyone's opinion?

        Every leader cares more about the opinion of the people than they do about anything else, because everyone who works for them is a person and just one disgruntled person in the right place can ruin everything for you. They may choose to manufacture obedience through oppression, but that's still primarily for the purpose of convincing people that they have more to lose than to gain from disobedience.

        That's also the Achilles heel of democracy: It is very dependent on responsible adults who are capable of figuring out whether they're fed bullshit by someone posing as an authority figure. Sadly, our education system doesn't produce anything remotely resembling that.

        The fatal flaw of Democracy (or similar) is that it only works if the plebes keep a hand in. Once people give

      • You forget about the narcissism of dictators. Putin started the war in order to improve the public opinion about him, expecting it to be as successful as after the annexation of Crimea.

        • Are you confident of that? I'm pretty sure he started the war to prevent Ukraine becoming a member of NATO.

          We knew that was very likely to cause a war [wikileaks.org] but still kept pushing. Now Ukraine is paying for our hubris, and I worry that our billions in "aid" aren't going to cover the debt of this proxy war. My wager is we'll have nontrivial American troop buildups in Eastern Europe here in the next couple of months. God, I hope I'm wrong.

          Full disclosure: My antiwar leanings here are heavily influence by my kid

      • by znrt ( 2424692 )

        Only in democracies. You think li'l Kim in North Korea gives half a fuck about anyone's opinion?

        that's pretty naive. public opinion doesn't mean squat because democracies can shape and control it simply by owning the media, which they extensively do. even apparent polarization extremes in the us like e.g. cnn and fox (clearly two steaming propaganda machines) will rally when it means defending the status quo and the common narrative.

        social media is a bit messier but serves the same purpose, as this very news story shows. it's mostly noise.

        even when public opinion is in opposition to the narrative, it

    • Re:ChatGPT (Score:4, Insightful)

      by DarkOx ( 621550 ) on Friday February 10, 2023 @09:53AM (#63281627) Journal

      An absolutely great example of why people publishing on line NEED to be forced to take the responsibility any other publisher has. The platforms HAVE to be accountable because as a practical matter its they are really do the harm, by putting the stuff under a lot of eyeballs. Which does not mean that we have to let the individuals behind the posts where they can actually be found off the hook either, but Meta, Google, Twitter, etc have to own what is on their sites.

      The common carrier model some of the far right and left ask for won't work, but neither does CDA-230 and the status quo. What would EVENTUALLY work is treating them like every other publisher.

      • the poster I am replying to is part of the disinformation campaign. You know, they will replace you with a ChatGPT or some other tool, your job is not that complex for a system like that.

      • That won't get you accountability and I think you probably know that. But it will do is make it impossible for anyone trying to counter the misinformation to speak safely online.

        So there's two ways destroying section 230 play out. One way is the Free speech Paradise where some perverse version of common carrier exists and anything goes. In this case the chat bots just want the platform with troll posts from right-wing commentators. This is why you see the right wing pushing for this so hard it's a battl
    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      You know, with some of the crap some people post here, I think this may already have happened.

  • Alex Mercouris has a YouTube channel aside from the Duran where he daily broadcasts what I perceive as highly biased interpretation of the days events in the Ukraine War. But the more interesting part is the chorus of bots that sweep in to support him.
  • Tik-toc just needs to DISAPPEAR.
  • So, they are going to give the ad money back?
  • You mean they invest in the technology to disrupt the enemies of China and Russia just waltz in takes it over?

    Tiktok is not the dump GOP. GOP built assiduously a fortress against Democrats and Trump just waltzed and took it over. Tiktok wont give up its exclusive access to chumps so easily.

  • This is what "influencers" do. They peddle products or ideas for money: from crypto and viagra to politics. Unlike TV/radio commercials that get some level of vetting, on social media anything goes. I wonder if TikTok will do the same about FTX/crypto disinformation. I would not hold my breath though.
  • Both are guilty of misinformation, it's not like the west isn't feeding a lot of disinformation about the war in the Ukraine. We're being lied to by everybody.
    • There are a number of non-Ukrainian reporters in Ukraine at the moment, doing there stuff. None of them under the threat of 15 years imprisonment for reporting stuff the government (Ukrainian or otherwise) deem to be 'not true'. Same cannot be said on the Russian side, where all the independent media seem to have been shut down.

      I don't think its right imply some sort of misinformation equivalence here.

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