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Reddit Says It's Banning More People Than Ever in Big Transparency Push (engadget.com) 52

Posted by msmash from the closer-look dept.
An anonymous reader writes: Reddit's transparency reports go beyond what most social media companies offer, providing copious data on content moderation and global legal requests. Now, the company has introduced a transparency center serving as a hub for safety, security and policy information. It also announced plans to release transparency reports biannually rather than just once per year and said that in 2022, it removed significantly more offensive content, including child abuse and revenge porn, than in 2021. Last year, Reddit saw a big jump in moderation and legal requests, according to its 2022 transparency report. Government and law enforcement removal account information requests were up by 51 percent and 61 percent respectively, while copyright notices jumped 43 percent. The story was similar on the moderation front. Last summer, the BBC reported that Reddit was still leaving up "thousands" of non-consensual intimate (NCII) images (aka revenge porn), despite making changes to its policy earlier in this year.
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  • You get a shadowban! And you! And you! (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, 2023 @03:14PM (#63415100)

    Everybody gets a shadowban!

    It's the only way to be transparent!

  • Nothing Lost Here (Score:3, Insightful)

    by NG-Buddhist ( 958966 ) on Friday March 31, 2023 @03:21PM (#63415108)
    Reddit's been compromised and over-moderated for 5+ years now, it just keeps ramping up further. Slashdot is still better for actual discussion, which says a lot about the old BBS setup we use here.

    • Re:Nothing Lost Here (Score:5, Interesting)

      by rsmith-mac ( 639075 ) on Friday March 31, 2023 @03:47PM (#63415178)

      Slashdot is still better for actual discussion, which says a lot about the old BBS setup we use here.

      I credit the Slashdot karma system. Having categories and a +5 cap has done wonders for helping to ensure that the winning strategy for karma whoring isn't to be the first person to post a snarky one-liner in a post about a popular subject.

      Admittedly, it can and does still happen. But those posts aren't ranked higher than the best informative posts. Whereas you'd often need to scroll down past half of the comments in a Reddit post to find the first insightful post.

      • Re:Nothing Lost Here (Score:5, Interesting)

        by t0qer ( 230538 ) on Friday March 31, 2023 @03:56PM (#63415200) Homepage Journal

        The moderation on /. is better. Reddit is vulnerable to PRAW karma farms. Tech savvy users can drown out opinions they don't like just by having PRAW installed on several shell accounts or VPN's. It's trivially easy to get past their abuse detection.

        • Hey! Stop ruining my fun playing the Reddit Game.

    • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

      by Berkyjay ( 1225604 )

      Slashdot is still better for actual discussion

      Sure, if you're looking for a lot of text that includes the N word in it. IMO Slashdot is terrible for discussion strictly based on it's insanely antiquated comment system.

      • If you think it's so bad, why are you posting here?

      • I'm here because I think it's refreshing to not have some algorithm show me only the "top comments." Try having a discussion on YouTube... Modern social media actively discourages real discussion, they just want positive feelings so you watch more ads.

        • I would never consider having a discussion on Youtube, it's not why I'm there. There are also plenty of ways to filter comments so that you don't see the top comments....because Reddit isn't a 20 yo technology and one can write extensions for it. As for Slashdot, your only two options are to see the "most highest rated comments" or the "oldest" comments" first. So how exactly is that any better?

    • Re:Nothing Lost Here (Score:4, Informative)

      by rossz ( 67331 ) <ogre&geekbiker,net> on Friday March 31, 2023 @03:59PM (#63415210) Journal

      The entire system is broken. Appealing a ban does nothing because it's apparent the person who banned you will also review your appeal.

      I was perma banned from reddit for "inciting violence". I said some disparaging remarks about a dead person.

      • This. Also banned. No working appeal.

        Reddit is an echo chamber of people pathetic enough to set up puppet accounts.

        • Same. Ever since I started playing the Reddit Game and getting people banned for no friggin' reason myself. It's kinda fun.

    • Re:Nothing Lost Here (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Powercntrl ( 458442 ) on Friday March 31, 2023 @04:01PM (#63415218) Homepage

      Slashdot is still better for actual discussion, which says a lot about the old BBS setup we use here.

      Slashdot's moderation system mostly works because there's less activity here overall, and you can't be karma raped for expressing an unpopular opinion. The lowest a post can sink to on Slashdot is -1. I'm not sure if there is a negative moderation limit on Reddit for comments.

      Also, because Slashdot's stories don't get anywhere near the thousands of comments that a popular Reddit post can receive, there's really no harm these days in browsing Slashdot at -1 anyway. Ever since anon posting was nerfed, there's very few actual troll posts these days and you're far more likely to see stuff at -1 as a result of mods with an axe to grind against someone's controversial opinion.

      • I'm not sure if there is a negative moderation limit on Reddit for comments.
         
        The downvote score can appear in the hundereds or thousands, but both actual karma lost and effective sorting bottoms out at -10

        • I have to admit, it was sort of fun watching EA's attempt to defend their Star Wars Battlefront II lootbox/unlocking shenannigans get modded down by a rew hundred thousand or so.

    • Reddit still has plenty of doxxing and other nasty content that should absolutely be taken down, but mods refuse to. They trumpet every year about their responsible moderation while doing nothing in actuality.
  • Power tripping neckbeards angry that TheDonald got shutdown.
  • To me the weird thing about Reddit is all the ModBots that are employed by the various sub-eddits. There are bots that will ban you for mentioning a taboo word, there are bots that will scour your membership history and ban you if you're a member of certain subreddits, there are even bots that will correct your grammar. I find it all creepy and weird. It's got a 'Big Brother is always watching you!' kind of vibe going on.

    • TBH the only subs that are actually any sort of fun are the various "shitpost" subs. On any of the serious subs it is way too easy to accidentally run afoul of the groupthink and burn karma/earn a ban.

    • I dunno, I think it's more like Big Brother's autistic nephew.

  • Pornhub, only fans, and other similar sites were getting banned from the entire banking system for having any user generated porn content until they decided to limit all uploads to approved, IDed, and vetted sources, but reddit somehow gets a pass with it's extremely lax, non-employee, non-paid moderators - which you can become by simply signing up? It's pretty insane the amount of porn available on reddit if you just 'enable NSFW' in your profile.
  • Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • Reddit is where you go to post if you agree with the owners of Reddit. If you have anything else to say, say it somewhere else. Reddit is absolute garbage.

  • In case anyone wondered, TFA says at the bottom that they're moving from annual to twice per year, not once every two years.

  • Moderation on reddit has become a dumpster fire. Sub mods are just free labor who abuse the power they're given, without any transparency to other users and without accountability. I have over 38 reddit accounts that I rotate out regularly due to voicing my opinions against the censorship that takes place. I look forward to free mod system going away and having a single source of moderation that follows the same rules as what's published.

  • Pro-China subreddits and posts are allowed, no matter how extreme or how obvious the propaganda. If you mention anything CCP doesn't agree with, you get banned. Tik-Tok is nothing compared to the propaganda spreading power of Reddit.

  • I don't know about anybody else, but there are many weeks where I get as many as two or three emails from Reddit asking me to confirm "my" account. I always click the "It's not me" button.

    At one point, I even decided to create an actual Reddit account, assuming that by doing so, people would stop being able to use my email address to spam me with "Confirm your account" emails, but apparently Reddit does not check to see if there is already an account associated with the email address, so I continued to ge

  • A bug in a bot permanently suspended my 14 year old account. The only way to contact them is through the web forms at RedditHelp.com. I've only gotten preformatted replies telling me "no" without explaining why account was to stay suspended. They then stopped responding. I created and modded several subreddits that many people enjoyed. Once that has over 500K subscribers and has been around for 9 years. I lost that because of the account suspension. Like being an artist than having all of your painti

    • Like being an artist who works for someone else and does not own their own work more like.

      Yes I know people put htings into it. But if they expect that a random ban could not happen to them they are idiots.

      Yes the current state of things is sad, and the fact that you can not get though to anything except a bot should not be allowed, it's worse when that happens on other platforms that are not just nonsence like reddit though.

      Move on, get a new account if you must. You are just a number to them.

      (I assume you

    • Lol I also got the "ban evasion" thing. It was a temporary ban, but I didn't go back. That thing must have a type I error rate that's insane. What's the point in hanging out there if your account is at risk from some random crap at any moment?

  • Like the police: If they're always looking for the next "perpetrator", some "violent crime" can be found. And, if they're optimizing for scalps, scalps will be taken.

  • Reddit used to a great place for open discussion. It very quickly morphed into a progressive censorship engine where anything non-progressive gets a user in trouble.

    It's still that way, which makes it of limited value. It's already a shadow of itself and the users have taken notice (as they have all over the web)

  • I've been permanently banned by r/socialism, for pointing out that Stalin was a genocide, and by r/law, for making a flippant comment that a boy who impregnated his teacher may not have been traumatized. A few more and I'll have the reddit monkey permanently off my back.

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