Reddit Mods Are Calling For An 'Affordable Return' For Third-Party Apps (theverge.com) 64
Moderators of popular Reddit communities have posted open letters to the company, requesting affordable API pricing for third-party apps, improved moderation tools and accessibility options, and a senior-level Moderator Advocate role at Reddit. The Verge reports: More than 8,000 subreddits went dark earlier this month in protest of the company's planned API pricing changes that will force apps like Apollo and rif is fun for Reddit to shut down on June 30th. Some subreddits continued to stay dark after the original 48-hour plan, but many moderators have reopened their communities after feeling pressure from Reddit itself. (A few communities have found some creative ways to reopen.)
The open letters are largely the same, calling for "a return to the productive dialogue that has served us in the past" between users and administrators (Reddit employees) and listing out a series of requests (taken from r/Funny's letter). [...] The letters conclude by saying that while the company has "all but entirely eroded" its trust with those who wrote the letters, "we hope that together, we can begin to rebuild it." The writers have asked for a response from Reddit by June 29th -- a day before many third-party apps are set to shut down.
The open letters are largely the same, calling for "a return to the productive dialogue that has served us in the past" between users and administrators (Reddit employees) and listing out a series of requests (taken from r/Funny's letter). [...] The letters conclude by saying that while the company has "all but entirely eroded" its trust with those who wrote the letters, "we hope that together, we can begin to rebuild it." The writers have asked for a response from Reddit by June 29th -- a day before many third-party apps are set to shut down.
I've been logged out since the blackout (Score:4, Interesting)
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Funny thing is when searching for technical information several of the google links linked to closed sub reddits and forced me to seek the answers elsewhere
Oooooooooooor, you could have just pulled up the google cache link
Re:I've been logged out since the blackout (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:I've been logged out since the blackout (Score:5, Interesting)
It's good to know I'm not the only one who's had this result; the CEO had a good thing and decided to alienate his customers and drive them away.
MBAs really are like hipsters; they ruin absolutely everything.
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I use Twitter, Mastodon and Tumblr but combined probably only 5% of the amount of time I spent on Twitter. I'm just starting to poke around Lemmy, so we will see how that goes. But so far I feel like I'm not missing anything and got a lot of my time back that would have otherwise been
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Says the guy posting to /.
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It was a real time waster and after a few days I hardly miss it.
I don't really miss it either when I do leave, if I go on trips I usually don't bother checking social media.
However like most social media, it's only as much of a waste of time as who you follow or what you read makes it.
Reddit has some really good technical forums, I like to go on and help answer questions but also you'll learn some useful things there even if you are already proficient.
During the blackout I simply went onto some of the less
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Didn't notice that.
Then again, reddit.com entered my "-site" list a long time ago.
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several of the google links linked to closed sub reddits and forced me to seek the answers elsewhere.
Your UID is low enough that you should know about the cached button. Virtually no google search is actually closed to the content that caused it to show in the search results. 100% of closed subs that Google took me to had it's content accessible.
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I don't know if it's still a thing, but a lot of sites used to look for the Google crawler's user-agent and supplied variant pages specifically for Google that they didn't want to supply directly to the public.
Meaning that in many cases you could use a user-agent switcher to get around a lot of such stupid/deceitful blocking.
I can't remember when I last did that, though, it may have become impractical and ceased being a common thing.
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Reddit has its useful communities but moderation has always been hit/miss and super problematic communities/users being able to operate openly for over a decade (including de facto child porn) I refused to keep an account there.
Us social media users should have higher standards.
They lost (Score:3, Insightful)
It means the platform is going to go to shit just like Facebook did where they will optimize everything for outrage and doom scrolling. It won't be fun anymore but it will be highly addictive even if it is absolutely miserable. A Never Ending series of pointless moral panics and culture wars. Everyone constantly furious and angry and upset because rage clicks are worth more than happy clicks. Just another part of the enshitification of the internet.
Re:They lost (Score:4, Insightful)
You're right to a point. The CEO misread the battlefield though and confused the user backlash with the usual flash-in-the-pan outrage-du-jour and thought he could wait it out. The problem is that a lot of users (like me) stopped visiting because the useful subs went dark. The cat pics were a nice break from the usual tech stuff I read (I avoided the doom/outrage subs like r/news like the plague) but once the utility went away, I found other ways to get what I need.
The platform will be miserable not because of the things you list (though they are true), but because the "normals" went away and moved on after a few days. The CEO decided to cripple his platform on purpose and people have already found other things.
I don't think that many normals left (Score:1, Troll)
I think you are a misunderstanding something. Yes right now you can avoid the doomer threads. I'm not talking about dimmer threads complaining about Reddit dying. I'm talking about curated content des
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Also, DarkOx forgot a couple communist and woke slurs. How one can type so much and say absolutely nothing
Ossification for all (Score:2)
Re:They lost (Score:4, Interesting)
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the big problem is unlike D&D the mods of reddit are for the most part disliked by the community at large
Mostly because the majority of them act like an UberEats driver who feels entitled to spit in your food because they believe they're not being fairly compensated for the labor they provide.
Of course, it's not an entirely apt analogy because UberEats couldn't operate without delivery drivers, whereas most subreddits would still work just fine with only user moderation.
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We're literally on a forum that is user moderation only, and it works fine, so that's a factual statement.
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Slashdot is actually actively moderated. The admins keep real quiet about it and engage it sparingly.
This place was extremely bad before they started getting involved.
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Moderation is about what stories are posted. I've seen enough niggaposting, hitler ascii shit and long term direct harassment of some users to know that if there's any moderation of comments by admins, it must be some stupid ass shit.
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I've seen enough niggaposting, hitler ascii shit and long term direct harassment of some users to know that if there's any moderation of comments by admins, it must be some stupid ass shit.
This is exactly what they moderate. They also seem to use their unlimited mod points quite a bit.
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We must be talking about two different sites. I'm talking about slashdot.
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And here's an example of my personal troll who's been making these sorts of posts for at least two years. I find him entertaining personally. Hell of an ego trip that I caused enough butthurt to someone on a forums to either spam this shit or set up a bot to do so.
But if moderation worked anything like is being claimed here, he would've been banned over a year ago. He patently wasn't, so I get to keep getting entertained by his stupid antics.
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We're literally on a forum that is user moderation only, and it works fine
The facts are a little more involved than you state.
Our mod points are only available at intervals and are rationed whenever they do arrive, while redditors have an infinite supply of mod-points available all of the time. Our moderation scheme offers a 7 step range of ratings, while theirs has no limit in either direction. This places the emphasis on a comment's quality rather than its popularity. Lastly, we can not participate (at least as a non-AC) in any discussion we moderate, redditors can post as m
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I keep making fairly controversial posts (as in they get a lot of both upvotes and downvotes), but I still get 15 points on a reasonably regular basis.
So I'm not sure your point is true or projection of feeling of not getting enough mod points. I feel I get more than enough personally.
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I only read one Finnish subreddit for last few years. It's perfectly readable without moderation beyond removing spam faster than it can be downvoted into oblivion, and moderation has generally been damaging rather than helping for most of the uptime of said subreddit.
Notably, this has been de facto admitted by the mod team on several occasions, where they desperately tried to correct the course with their bigger fuckups, and generally failed to do so. Which is why mocking moderators is something of a past
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With the latest turn of events, I wouldn't declare the community has lost just yet.
Reddit has now given us the ammunition for both mods and users to strike at the heart of the IPO.
Not only is Reddit reversing ALL deletions of posts by end-users, but specifically un-deleting posts requested to be removed specifically using their CCPA page, with quoted sections of PPI within them.
There's also been quite a few properly recorded instances where Reddit staff completely replaced the text of a post (with the 'edit
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Not sure why parent is banned. I think it sums up the situation nicely.
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Because it’s gross to see someone care about Reddit.
Why should Reddit care? (Score:2)
If traffic is unaffected and folks keep modding, why should Reddit care? These folks like to pretend their volunteer internet job gives them any power here. The only way Reddit would have to listen is if established mods actually quit and the replacement mods could not handle the task. I suspect that the replacements easily could handle the job and therefore there's nothing special about the existing group of moderators. It will be an interesting adjustment for these folks.
doing the wrong thing with a sharp hara-kiri blade (Score:2, Troll)
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Bud light fucked up and managed to piss of both parties . That’s why sales are down.
Re:doing the wrong thing with a sharp hara-kiri bl (Score:4, Insightful)
Bud light fucked up and managed to piss of both parties . That’s why sales are down.
I think their sales are down because if you're intent on drinking a can of pisswater, White Claw and the other various canned vodka soda drinks actually taste significantly better and the younger generations tend to give less of a fuck what others think about their drink passing some sort of masculinity purity test.
Also, if you're someone who actually likes beer, there is no shortage of beers that actually taste like beer.
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So, you think "vodka soda drinks" only came to market in the past couple of months? Nope.
Re:doing the wrong thing with a sharp hara-kiri bl (Score:5, Funny)
for a country that definitely isnt gay, they sure like their wrestling
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Reddit is having its Bud Light moment. Amazing how much clueless management there is slitting its own throat. Good luck getting a good IPO, guys. You're gonna need leprechauns on steroids.
Reddit has done no such thing. Largely the numbers show users are still using the site despite a couple of subs being inaccessible. (The number is in the low thousands, out of the double digit millions). Users are largely unimpacted. A few mods are pissed.
Bud Lite on the other hand handled a response so poorly they pissed off the very customers they previously most appealed to. Sure they were trying to show how inclusive they are, but they forgot that their customer base are largely transphobic thundercunts
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Sure they were trying to show how inclusive they are, but they forgot that their customer base are largely transphobic thundercunts.
Can we just take a minute and rag on unironic budweiser brand loyalists?
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Don't worry, there's still Coors providing crap beer to transphobic thundercunts everywhere!
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You know all of us on the right stop listing once someone says -phobic right?
Yeah thundercunts do that. If you have a problem with a English language suffix that causes you to suddenly tune out I recommend seeing a mental health professional.
Penguinz0 take (Score:2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
eat that, reddit! (Score:1)
eat that, reddit, you are now being ruthlessly implored!
and you brought that down on yourself because you didn't listen to the protesting, then threatening, then closing, then doomsaying, then reopening, then pic bombing and johnoliveering.
but it's good to know that the invaluable content of subs like CrazyIdeas, Showerthoughts, NotTheOnion or MildlyInteresting, only possible by the sacrifice and hard work of selfless unpaid moderators will live on. allons enfants de l'internet!
A Proper Response is Needed (Score:1)
First... they need one big ass apology. They've flat out been stupid. They thought if they did a cash grab it would work and they would get a huge return on an IPO. I don't think an IPO is even a wise thing... Reddit, by these very actions, has proven that they could be replaced within a year. If they don't fix things, I have no doubt that they have a slow and then accelerating decline. They're not market geniuses. They thought they were way smarter than they are... and everyone else. They need to ju
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In fact the mods are now asking for 'senior-level Moderator Advocate role,' Is that like asking for a promotion at the local playground because you are the self-appointed bully?
Many popular website/services are about to die (Score:2)
Many of the most popular sites on the internet have never made a profit in their lives, and have been living off VC money. With the downturn in the economy, the VC money is about gone. Many of the websites that we think are popular will in fact probably soon die and be gone forever.
Fück Reddit and fück Reddit Mods (Score:2)
Join us over on Lemmy! (Score:3)
I joined lemmy.world and so far it's very reminiscent of early reddit. Leemy is to reddit as Mastodon is to Twitter: A federated collection of servers in which no one person or company controls the space.
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Hate to say it, but followed that link and it was a setup guide. Reddit just works.